Wezly's Latest Money-sink

[shazza]

Hey Wezly - haven't been ignoring your questions, just nothing I could contribute on the fan powering situation. Looking forward to some more updates (hint, hint)

[Wezly]

Hey Wezly - haven't been ignoring your questions, just nothing I could contribute on the fan powering situation. Looking forward to some more updates (hint, hint)

No accusations, only sad assumptions.

How about fan-controlling situation? Any idea how I should split those up? 3 fans each on 4 channels, 4 fans each on 3 channels? Then I have the 200mm and an empty one?

Decisions decisions....

I could update within a day or so, but it would be for side projects

And I don't want that. Yet.

[pizan]

Hey, looking good.
Are those Primochill polycarbonate compression fittings?
How are they? Have any problems with them?
I'm looking into using them for a cheap re-use-old-hardware-in-new-case build.

[Wezly]

Hey, looking good.
Are those Primochill polycarbonate compression fittings?
How are they? Have any problems with them?
I'm looking into using them for a cheap re-use-old-hardware-in-new-case build.

I didn't have any real problems with them so far, but I've heard that they crack and to "watch out" when I started this log.

You do have to take your time with them, like any compression fitting, or fitting in general. You could easily strip them in the blocks, whereas you would strip the block and/or the fitting with metal ones.

It's hard to describe...

They're difficult to unscrew sometimes. You may end up unscrewing the base when trying to release the cowl. I'd send you some if I had spares, but I think I need to order more!

I went for looks, they look good, they definitely work, but like anything new, they take some getting-used-to.

/endfragmentedsentencewithconjunctedfragments?

[Wezly]

Well, I did some work on that pesky stretch of tube that flattened out regardless of how many red zip-ties I put on it. I was thinking of shaping it in hot water, and setting it in ice water. That whole plan involved my hands, and I don't really want to do that to them. Kinda important. Anyway.

I took the long way, and added an almost circular section of tubing. This is only a test, so the final piece will be trimmed a little shorter and wrapped in the tasty red springs.

Here's some pics.











Oh, and I got these sweet headphones:



WeSC Alp Horn. Marshmallow.

[Rise]

i remember seeing a guy doing much tighter bends with his tubing by putting a fairly thick rope in the tubing, tying it into a loop, then boiling the tubing with rope in it for a bit, taking it out, letting it cool, then pulling the rope out yielding a tight bend with no kinks. you might want to give that a try to see if it helps your bend radius issues.

[Wezly]

i remember seeing a guy doing much tighter bends with his tubing by putting a fairly thick rope in the tubing, tying it into a loop, then boiling the tubing with rope in it for a bit, taking it out, letting it cool, then pulling the rope out yielding a tight bend with no kinks. you might want to give that a try to see if it helps your bend radius issues.

Ah, that's the solution I was looking for.

Just gotta get some 1/2" nylon rope...

Although, I do like the excessive amount of tubing. I bet it looks like crap though

[snoro]

well its very nice, i like very much the curve of the tubing but it need some red antikink coils to match the other tubing parts.

[Kibbler]

Hi Wezly,

I have a suggestion, I hope you can consider it, no commitment required. I must be honest, I'm not digging the tube routing right now (and deep down I think you might agree), please don't take that as harsh criticism. This is a very unique project and I have some ideas on aesthetics that might help.

You'll need 6 of these (or similar): LINK
And 4 of these (or similar): LINK

OR...

2 of these (but they're expensive, bulky, and I have no experience with them): LINK

And some more barbs/clamps, etc.

Ready?



-In parallel overall restriction will be lower so you can even drop down to 1/4"ID and keep things looking "light," not like a dense mass of tubing.
-I also just gave you a convenient place for a fillport (top left), if you don't have one already.
-Use p-clips or similar to secure each manifold to the top and midplate respectively.
-Where are your rads btw? Bottom compartment? If so, this should route the return line back down there perfectly.

What do you think?

[Wezly]

well its very nice, i like very much the curve of the tubing but it need some red antikink coils to match the other tubing parts.

Thanks. I was just testing with the clear tubing. I don't mind if I have to throw it away or reuse it for the rads.

Hi Wezly,

I have a suggestion, I hope you can consider it, no commitment required. I must be honest, I'm not digging the tube routing right now (and deep down I think you might agree), please don't take that as harsh criticism. This is a very unique project and I have some ideas on aesthetics that might help.

You'll need 6 of these (or similar): LINK
And 4 of these (or similar): LINK

OR...

2 of these (but they're expensive, bulky, and I have no experience with them): LINK

And some more barbs/clamps, etc.

Ready?



-In parallel overall restriction will be lower so you can even drop down to 1/4"ID and keep things looking "light," not like a dense mass of tubing.
-I also just gave you a convenient place for a fillport (top left), if you don't have one already.
-Use p-clips to secure the manifold to the top and midplate.
-Where are your rads btw? Bottom compartment? If so, this should route the return line back down there perfectly.

What do you think?

Trust me, I thought of the koolance manifolds, many, many, manymanymanymanymany times.

I was told that parallel flow was not ideal with regards to pressure and flow and flowrate. Thinking about it, it makes sense that pressure and flow rate would be uneven between the three blocks, but thinking about it again, wouldn't the flow degrade in that scenario as well?

Whatever, it is something I must overcome. It would be a shame to waste all that tubing though. :[

I like the t-line and spacers

The rads will be external, because there's no way I can put three MCR420s inside that case. I've seen one, and that took out the whole floor and that was too much hacking and such for my time and resource constraints.

I need to devise how to put them on 45 degree angles, power the fans, and attach the top exhaust fan. Also, I have been struggling with how to string them together with the increased radius that a single piece of tubing will need.

I originally liked the koolance manifolds, but did not want that many more points of failure. Six leak spots on the cards is better than 12 or more.

Since one other person thinks it's a good solution, and I trust them, I will look into that again more thoroughly in the morning.

I also keep looking at this, but do not want to buy 90's for it:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...ducts_id=25637

I also don't want to run tubing out the top. But meh, I'll have to decide somehow.

I was going to use a black and red of these:

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catal...oducts_id=2476

Looking again, they are aluminum. But they are the only passthroughs that fit the holes in the back of the Raven.

[mbreslin]

I'm in until the end just for that crazy loop-the-loop, it's awesome.

[Wezly]

I'm in until the end just for that crazy loop-the-loop, it's awesome.

I have a couple of those, here and there haha. I had a pretty interesting one on my HAF932 going to the rad on the back... I don't think I have a picture though :/ oh well...

And just wait til I try to redo that loop in black with the red spring-wrap on

Also, I'm sub'd to your MMA build, but haven't had anything productive to add, and I am still too busy being awestruck by the amount of hardware you put into it....

[Wezly]

Well, I was going to charge my camera, and post an update after I swapped out that clear tubing for some black with red coils, but then I "did a stupid."

I coiled the tube, secured the ends to the coil with masking tape, and dunked it in my hot distilled water. Realizing that the hot water would remove the adhesive and put it into the water and thereby the submerged tube, it would ultimately end up in my loop.

*sigh*

I will get more distilled water tomorrow, and look into a better container to heat the water in so I do not do that anymore.

I also need some 1" nylon rope so I can shape the bends properly. Sorry, Kibbler, as much as I like that idea, the money just isn't here, nor is the desire to have that many leaks to worry about.

Maybe another time, or when I do a rebuild

The reason the money isn't here is because I just got 4 2tb Hitachi's from newegg for 139.99 each with free shipping. Weekend special = win.

I am still tempted to put them in this rig, but I know I need them for an external backup server. I should have gotten more so I had something to store VMs on. Maybe some 500's.

Oh well, sorry for everyone who is subscribed. I feel like this is a bait'n'switch.

[shazza]

Take your time, Wezly - quite a few of us are going slow with our builds - better to get it how you want it then rush things.

[snoro]

and end up spending way much more than you intended. Sadly mine also might be stopped for a will because of stupid intel always changing socket and amd is comming with surely g34 next year with bulldozer. Take your time and do it nicely.

[Wezly]

and end up spending way much more than you intended. Sadly mine also might be stopped for a will because of stupid intel always changing socket and amd is comming with surely g34 next year with bulldozer. Take your time and do it nicely.

That's why I went with tri-sli. If I do it now with 275's, decent, now former-middle-of-the-road cards, I can satisfy that urge to have way too many video cards, but not break the bank, and still have good performance.

[Wezly]

This is a precursory post:



MOARTOMORROWKKTHXBAI

[Anemic]

Ohyea, this is nice and Xtreme! Looks great, Im looking forward to the finished build and some performance scores =)

[shazza]

MOARTOMORROWKKTHXBAI

[Wezly]

So, Kibbler sparked my interest in those koolance manifolds again, so I bought some!

Those quick-disconnects are interesting.

I need to design a plate to cover the holes in the case, or drill new ones. haven't decided yet. I also need to find a backplate for the manifolds to attach to the top of the case.

Kibbler, I didn't think of suspending the one from the top, so credit to you for what is still to come.

Pressure valve is for brewing, not the computer

Time for class.

Photobucket is annoying, btw.

[ipuoL]

crazy trains do you have

[Wezly]

crazy trains do you have

May I say:

Sie sind meines Vaters Züge



And thank you. Sadly, he and I have not worked on the layout in years
I would show you more if it was not covered in other tools and things.

Hopefully more updates in the days to come.

[zads]

Nice system, I was tempted by those red acrylic waterblocks when they went up too.
I just got the VL3N quick disconnects too-
Great connectors, but need a little space around them to easily connect and disconnect.

[Kibbler]

Nice Mr Paul Mack (the Knife).

Thanks for the shoutout and look forward to seeing where you go with that idea. Goes without saying I think it will work really well with parallel everything.

[Wezly]

Nice Mr Paul Mack (the Knife).

Thanks for the shoutout and look forward to seeing where you go with that idea. Goes without saying I think it will work really well with parallel everything.

Anytime sir.

I just can't help thinking that the pressure will be greatest at the back, and therefor the flow will be less on the first card (the hottest).