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    Ease of security? No. Even then turning your machine into a zombie makes sense. It just won't do things itself but use cloud for it. OTOH spamming would be harder, cloud shouldn't allow any client to send emails in too large numbers.

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    http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/p...xth_sense.html

    I think this is a good fit with the concepts at play in Cloud Computing.
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    Yeah, that will be great when they can slim down the interface a bit. Maybe an bluetooth earbud device that has a camera and projector integrated with the typical phone usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firestrider View Post
    I see the advantages for cloud computing are very similar to the advantages of thin clients and server-based computing:

    - Ease of security
    - Lower hardware costs
    - Less energy consumption
    - More efficient use of computing resources

    The biggest problem I see is there will too much reliance on the network. When dealing with multimedia rich and bandwidth intensive applications like video gaming and video editing I don't see these being cloud computing applicable any time soon.

    I also see that cloud computing service providers will demand a cost for hardware and software as a service a month as opposed to an upfront cost for a laptop or desktop.
    Cloud computing will be dependent on the program. Some would benefit (wiki/multi user input-like structure, others will not (rendering).

    Server-client based programs (example: World Community Grid/ Folding@home, etc) are a good start model to show how to handle some things.

    Other things will be handled by a "base" PC in a user's home which clients would connect to for things which require more compute power or faster response times (latency related).

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    I don't believe in the cloud, why? simply put, as more and more isps around the world come up with harsher traffic restrictions every day it simply won't be possible.

    First you need to get the isps to stop the whole limiting madness, then we can talk about the cloud again.

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    Hi, welcome to the thin client model of the 80's. Have a nice stay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naokaji View Post
    I don't believe in the cloud, why? simply put, as more and more isps around the world come up with harsher traffic restrictions every day it simply won't be possible.

    First you need to get the isps to stop the whole limiting madness, then we can talk about the cloud again.
    Exactly, that is why the online offline model is problematic - synchronization crossing wired and wireless links. At some point, the crosstalk between the client and the server, and the client burden (one popular email client comes to mind) for database synchronization, becomes huge. Hence the allure of rendering in the Cloud and never having to ship more bits than that required to broadcast high quaility video. And that tech is already getting deployed or working today.

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    at work we're currently migrating our desktop pcs to thin clients using citrix farms.

    simply put: for an average worker in a corporation environment such models are very good, but there's no way i'd ever (EVER) use smth like that with my pcs at home. especially because i want to have full control over EVERYTHING i use. cloud computing CAN be useful, if you're often at different places and using apps in a cloud while just needing a browser on the local machine is nice, but that's it.

    i don't even want to use cloud computing on a cell phone.

    it is kind of funny in the IT. back in the past we already had different models of centralized computing, e.g. the HOST times back then. after that everyone switched to de-centralized computing and now we're slowly going back to the centralized computing we saw 20 years ago.
    if cloud computing really takes off, i predict it to last for only as much as a decade after which we'll be switching everything back to de-centralized computing again. it's like a sinus curve, we're switching forth and back continuesly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64NOMIS View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FacYAI6DY0

    Basically Larry Ellison thinks Clouds are marketing hogwash.
    i liked that video

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    Quote Originally Posted by naokaji View Post
    First you need to get the isps to stop the whole limiting madness, then we can talk about the cloud again.
    Also, not everyone runs fibre or even ADSL. There are still millions of people on dialup.

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    More hardware = cloud

    I understand the premise, but when cell phones have 64 gig and running on dual-cores.. you apps will be licensed to you and you can use them wherever.

    The central nervous center (aka Internet) is pathetically behind the times and still using copper for the most part.

    Better internet protocols + hardware = cloud

    No need to make autonomous apps.

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