ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[GAR]

anyone with a q9450 get above 488fsb???

[moogle]

If you guys don't know (I'm sure you do though ) there's a GTL thread on how to set them http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=3359012

What about the NB GTL refs and the DDR ChA and ChB and NB DDR refs? How do we set those. Why the hell is it so hard to find info on these things? I hate how the motherboard manual only states what options the setting can go to and not what the thing actually does.

[mikeyakame]

ddr refs are 0.5x Vdimm, offsetting those references is mainly useful to squeeze the last bit out of the sticks, or clean up a dirty signal at high frequencies. nb gtlref works the same way as cpu gtlref, it is based off Vtt but normally needs a smaller multiplier than its cpu counterpart.

[moogle]

Well I need to squeeze the last bit out of my sticks even though they aren't on their last bits. I've got a problem with 8GB of 2GB sticks where they won't overclock to 1130 even. Maybe a bad one out of the bunch or maybe together as 8GB they just are too much. Thanks again for the useful piece of info.

[CryptiK]

Allow the NB DDR ref and the DDR Ref ChA/B to simply scale up and down with vdimm (ie: leave them on auto), but you can increase them slightly to help clean up a dirty signal and as Mike said, squeeze the last out of them.

Have you tried using the ram skews and advancing the channels by 200 - 350ps? That should aid the ram stability and overclocking.

[moogle]

Have you tried using the ram skews and advancing the channels by 200 - 350ps? That should aid the ram stability and overclocking.

Alright I'll leave them on auto. I've tried ram skews but it still didn't help my stability with anything over 1066mhz
EDIT - I give up with these rams. Either one of them are busted or don't want to oc one bit or the board can't handle 8GB over 1066 even though it supports DDR2 1200 or just that these rams I have are crap.

[carepolice]

Alright I'll leave them on auto. I've tried ram skews but it still didn't help my stability with anything over 1066mhz
EDIT - I give up with these rams. Either one of them are busted or don't want to oc one bit or the board can't handle 8GB over 1066 even though it supports DDR2 1200 or just that these rams I have are crap.

I bet you have already tried higher NB values?

[moogle]

I bet you have already tried higher NB values?

Yeah....

Oh well I'm glad it performs over DDR 950 even though it's at that speed and PL10.

[CryptiK]

What do you mean by that exactly? if it's at 950, that's 950 performance you're seeing. Are you saying due to the higher FSB & 950 ram you get better performance than when running lower FSB and faster ram? If so that's to be expected, FSB has a large effect on bandwidth & latency.

[moogle]

What do you mean by that exactly? if it's at 950, that's 950 performance you're seeing. Are you saying due to the higher FSB & 950 ram you get better performance than when running lower FSB and faster ram? If so that's to be expected, FSB has a large effect on bandwidth & latency.

Yeap I'm seeing 8600 Read, 10000 Write and 9900 Copy in Everest. If I run it at 1140 unstable it doesn't give that much more performance.

[Guacamole]

A little off topic but is it true that this board only supports 8X8 PCIE 2.0 for crossfire??

Isn't that a severe limitation for a supposed ROG board I mean doesn't that severely limit the performance of the video cards?? Any one have any insight about this???

I am gravely concerned that when I plug another 4870 into the second slot I am going to get 8X8 which from my understanding is NOT GOOD???

[screwtech02]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....

[Guacamole]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....

Yeah I am just about to buy another card but I wanted to follow up I see that your running 2X3870's and are you happy with your performance from the crossfire???

[moogle]

Dude, your not gonna see the difference with your eyes, only in bench's, and then its slight....

Well you know everyone wants the best for what they pay for. Do we really know if it affects performance at higher res's or on more demanding games?

[BailA]

Hi,i use this settings for my Q9650.

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 422
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: Auto
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1014Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Advance 300ps
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Advance 300ps
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:

CAS# Latency: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5 DRAM Clocks
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to RAS# Delay: Auto
Row Refresh Recycle Time: 55 DRAM Clocks
Write Recovery Time: Auto
Read to Precharge Time: Auto

2nd Information:

Read to Write Delay (S/D): Auto
Write to Read Delay (S): Auto
Write to Read Delay (D): Auto
Read to Read Delay (S): Auto
Read to Read Delay (D): Auto
Write to Write Delay (S): Auto
Write to Write Delay (D): Auto

3rd Information:

Write to PRE Delay: Auto
Read to PRE Delay: Auto
PRE to PRE Delay: Auto
All PRE to ACT Delay: Auto
All PRE to REF Delay: Auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Auto
MEM. OC Charger: Auto
Ai Clock Twister: Moderate
Ai Transaction Booster: Manual

Common Performance Level: 8
Pull-in of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-in of CHB PH3: Enabled

PCIE Frequency: 101

CPU Voltage: 1.25
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.56625
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.1000
DRAM Voltage: 2.05
North Bridge Voltage: 1.1
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.50
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.10

CPU GTL Reference (0): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (1): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (2): Auto
CPU GTL Reference (3): Auto
NB GTL Reference: Auto
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: Auto
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: Auto
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Enabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled

What'is the optimal settings for the GTL?
Thank's

[Guacamole]

Well you know everyone wants the best for what they pay for. Do we really know if it affects performance at higher res's or on more demanding games?

Yeah I wonder how it affects things in real world performance I am currently reading some reviews and it seems that this is a benefit over the P35 but not full 16X PciE capabilities like an X38 and X48 board, which for the money we paid for this board seems kind of disheartening...

[screwtech02]

I actually got higher scores in 03mark with the P45 chipset, over the x38 with dual x16. Runnin a 26" Soyo monitor to game on, the 3870's are workin hard to push that res with all the eye candy turned on, but i play BF2 with everything maxed in CCC, with no issues....

Really happy with the board, just wish it had some better bandwidth with more than 2gb of memory....



http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5951366

[Shiranui Gen-An]

This board seems to have great RAM clocking ability, I managed to get my Dominator 1250 kit to run 1200 4-4-4-12 with only 2.4V BIOS set. Another thing I like is that it doesn't overvolt VDDR by much, only about 0.01V checked with DMM.

[mcp]

Hello,

I've a problem. When I start my system it restarts three times and then after a short time it begins to boot. Then comes the post "A boot failure event happend on BIOS2". Does anyone know how I can solve the problem. It's very annoying to wait so long till the system is in Winodws. I hope you can help me.

[sunny7day]

I'm having problem booting P4 651 on this board, but no problem on Commando. Anyone can solve this problem?

[Gambit_2K]

I need som help, I've found that my tracers (new singlesided version 4*1 GB) won't do anything on my board. So wanna get some new ram preferable 2x2 GB that will do 1066 or even 1200. I can't even get my tracers stable at 1000.

Any recommendations? I don't wanna spend 1 week tweaking them just to get them stable. I just wanna put them in there and run them 1:1 with my FSB of 533 MHz. Cellshock? G. Skill? Apogee?

Oh my rig is a gamerig not much for benching.

I was thinking about:

http://www.hpm-computer.de/product_i...-GT-Serie.html

http://www.norskit.com/norskit/defau...10063745%2C%2C

http://www.bestseller-computer.de/?ID=19125

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a217247.html

[Leeghoofd]

Gambit even these cheapo Gskills do 1130mhz on the E and Dlx mobo's (450FSB - 266 strap and 1130 on the ram) - 1066 is no problem on them
I see no reason to cash out here mate

Link here : Gskill PC8000PQ HPM-Computer

[ztop]

hello i'm having some problems with mi asus maximus 2 formula and mi new gtx 260.. when i shut down the pc from windows the gtx 260 fan doesn'stop!and i have to push the start button from the main to stop the vga fan ...
someone can help me?
thanks...

[moogle]

hello i'm having some problems with mi asus maximus 2 formula and mi new gtx 260.. when i shut down the pc from windows the gtx 260 fan doesn'stop!and i have to push the start button from the main to stop the vga fan ...
someone can help me?
thanks...

What OS are you running? Bit version too.

[ztop]

xp pro sp2 32 bit