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    Quote Originally Posted by raptor1 View Post
    Hi!

    i am having problems playing crysis in vista ultimate x64, i get this message after the screen goes black when loading the first mission

    "Display Driver nvlddmkm Stopped Responding and Has Successfully Recovered"

    i have spent the whole weekend downloading and trying different driver versions, vista has sp1 and is fully updated

    i have an 8800 gt and it also happens with this as well

    i also have searched for a solution to this on the web and any solutions that worked for some people did not work for me

    any help would be appreciated

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    As i said earlier while researching this on the internet and found nothing that worked, i found that combining a few of the suggestions together solved the problem for me

    because crysis is such a demanding game for memory it could be regarded as a benchmark tool for system stability in vista

    1. i ran memtest+ 2.01 and started getting errors straight away, kept reducing my ram voltage down until i could run memtest without errors

    2. I installed all windows updates and sp1 for vista before I installed any games and turned Off windows update and will leave it off permanently as i believe it's one of the updates that gets installed while games are installed that causes some of the problems

    3. i disabled all non essential services, superfetch, readyboost, search indexing, task scheduler, to name a few

    4. I set power management to performance and configured hard drives and monitors to never turn off

    5. if you have two network ports and are using only one, disable the second one

    6. in the nvidia driver control panel i set
    Adjust image setting with preview - Let Application Decide
    vsynch - Let the Apllication Decide
    In Global Settings - Manage 3D settings
    - Texture filtering – Anisotropic: Off
    - Texture filtering – Negative LOD Bias: Clamp
    - Texture filtering – Quality: Performance
    - Texture filtering– Trilinear optimization : Off

    after all that i can now play crysis without crashing or that bloody "driver has stopped responding and has recovered " message

    my only problem now is in the first mission with the intro sequence of the alien spawning, it is very dark and then the whole screen goes white and then back to normal - is that the way it should be

    this might all sound like draconian measures but none of these pointers above on their own, worked for me but when i combined them all together i succeded - this might also not work for everyone , i hope it will help

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    Here is my result in 3d06 with XFX 9800 GX2 under XP:
    23278 Marks:


    @raptor1, About the f*****g "Display Driver nvlddmkm Stopped Responding and Has Successfully Recovered" error I've found something. Before that I've tested my RAM with Memset, but everything was OK, also I've installed the Windows6.0-KB955302-x64.msu update.
    I have this error with every driver above 177.73. With FW 177.73 I can bench with my card at 800/1998/1180 under Vista x64, but with next drivers I've received this error with these settings. After a lot of attempts I found that I've to reduce the clock of RAM of my video card to 1134 and then I haven't receive this error. That is why I'm still with FW 177.73
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    has anyone experimented with the max pre rendered frames in nvidia 3d settings?

    Nickless i also had a sim prob with mine but i dropped it down to 1120 to be safe. some nice figures btw! im runnin a E84 just with a hsf though lol

    the only time i got around 20k in vista was when i had 32bit and i set the disp res to the lowest in 3d06 to see what would happen (doesnt count of course), but that was when i could run at 4.2ghz

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickless View Post
    Here is my result in 3d06 with XFX 9800 GX2 under XP:
    23278 Marks:


    @raptor1, About the f*****g "Display Driver nvlddmkm Stopped Responding and Has Successfully Recovered" error I've found something. Before that I've tested my RAM with Memset, but everything was OK, also I've installed the Windows6.0-KB955302-x64.msu update.
    I have this error with every driver above 177.73. With FW 177.73 I can bench with my card at 800/1998/1180 under Vista x64, but with next drivers I've received this error with these settings. After a lot of attempts I found that I've to reduce the clock of RAM of my video card to 1134 and then I haven't receive this error. That is why I'm still with FW 177.73
    Nice score! Is it on a voltmoded card?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickless View Post
    Here is my result in 3d06 with XFX 9800 GX2 under XP:
    23278 Marks:


    @raptor1, About the f*****g "Display Driver nvlddmkm Stopped Responding and Has Successfully Recovered" error I've found something. Before that I've tested my RAM with Memset, but everything was OK, also I've installed the Windows6.0-KB955302-x64.msu update.
    I have this error with every driver above 177.73. With FW 177.73 I can bench with my card at 800/1998/1180 under Vista x64, but with next drivers I've received this error with these settings. After a lot of attempts I found that I've to reduce the clock of RAM of my video card to 1134 and then I haven't receive this error. That is why I'm still with FW 177.73
    when you reduced the ram clock, is there a drop in performance of the card

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    my mem clock will barely budge at all at stock... i need a detailed voltmod for these (bettr than the pre-release ones i find on google)
    I can bench at 800/2000/1000, but mem seems incredibly reluctant to OC. at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovnaft View Post
    my mem clock will barely budge at all at stock... i need a detailed voltmod for these (bettr than the pre-release ones i find on google)
    I can bench at 800/2000/1000, but mem seems incredibly reluctant to OC. at all.

    Here you go!

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    in the vgpu mod, do they really mean 100kohm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slovnaft View Post
    in the vgpu mod, do they really mean 100kohm?
    Its not 100kOhm its 100Ohm

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    Quote Originally Posted by HitandRun View Post
    Nice score! Is it on a voltmoded card?
    No, the card isn't voltmoded yet, it's only under water for now

    Quote Originally Posted by raptor1 View Post
    when you reduced the ram clock, is there a drop in performance of the card

    i am using FW 175.16
    Yes, there is a drop in performance. With my favorite FW 177.73 I make 15386 in Vantage and there is no f*****g "Display Driver nvlddmkm Stopped Responding and Has Successfully Recovered" error:


    but with 178.13 at 800/2000/1140 I can get 15210:


    When I've turned off PhysX I can bench again with old settings of FW 177.73 - 800/2000/1173
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    Hey guys

    Is there anyone with GX2 and DFI ut DK P45 t2rs plus?
    Because with my new DFI board i have realy low 3D performance. I tryed everything but no success. Compatibility problems between GX2 and DK P45 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickless View Post
    No, the card isn't voltmoded yet, it's only under water for now



    Yes, there is a drop in performance. With my favorite FW 177.73 I make 15386 in Vantage and there is no f*****g "Display Driver nvlddmkm Stopped Responding and Has Successfully Recovered" error:


    but with 178.13 at 800/2000/1140 I can get 15210:


    When I've turned off PhysX I can bench again with old settings of FW 177.73 - 800/2000/1173
    Thanks for that

    are you running with the default 3d settings in the nvidia control panel or have you changed any like i have in my previous post

    i am still getting the display error message but not evey time i load a game like i used to , i will try going to Fw 177.73 and see if there is any difference

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    revisiting my 9800GX2 on DFI UT X48-T3RS





    Good to have some extra cpu mhz in there


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    Quote Originally Posted by raptor1 View Post
    Thanks for that

    are you running with the default 3d settings in the nvidia control panel or have you changed any like i have in my previous post

    i am still getting the display error message but not evey time i load a game like i used to , i will try going to Fw 177.73 and see if there is any difference

    Best regards
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    No, I haven't change anything in the nvidia control panel. I've tried only with max pre rendered frames to set at 1, but there is no difference.

    It will be interesting for me if you can try with FW177.73, will there be this stupid error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eva2000 View Post
    revisiting my 9800GX2 on DFI UT X48-T3RS
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    Good to have some extra cpu mhz in there
    .
    Amazing results with these settings. I bench at pretty higher settings of my 9800GX2 then yours, some tweaks also, but my results are pretty lower It's possible DDR2 to limit my results that much?!
    Look at 3d01- 94426:

    and 3d03- 81982:
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    finally got into the 20's major head f*** tho
    (178.13 btw)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickless View Post
    No, I haven't change anything in the nvidia control panel. I've tried only with max pre rendered frames to set at 1, but I haven't seen difference.

    It will be interesting for me if you can try with FW177.73, will there be this stupid error.

    typical of vista - it works for a while and it starts with the error mesages again

    with FW 177.73 it is back with a vengence after working perfectly for a day

    it also happens with server 2008 which is a lean version of vista

    i'm going to try with an old ati card i have to see it is just an nvidia thing

    i will be really pissed if it is a typical nvida / microsoft vista screwup after i paying €450 for my 9800 GX2

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    can anyone help me understand what exactly a bottle neck is (pc terms obviously)
    and what would cause it out of quad sli 98gx2, 8-8-8-24 1887 ddr3, e84 @ 4.2ghz all on xfx 790i ultra?

    cheers

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    A bottleneck is the component in your system that is slowing down your pc the most. It's the "weakest link".

    In your case, it really depends on the situation, on the application you're trying to run.

    In quad-core optimized games it's your CPU, in other games, such as Crysis, it's your graphics cards. Only problem is that newer cards won't make it almost any faster.
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    thnx inCore, i decided to go all out when i upgraded and go the quad sli, rather disappointing in the end tho, just feels like the 2 are just a heater, ppl are getting great results with just 1 gx2 thats why i say this. apart from that i really like them. they got sex appeal! lol


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    A little bit better in Vantage with new FW 178.15 (but only for Vista) compared to 178.13

    with 178.13 at 800/2000/1140 - 15210:
    , 810/2000/1200 - 11956 without PhysX:

    178.15 at 800/2000/1140 - 15433:
    , 810/2000/1200 - 12200 without PhysX:

    but it's much better then my favorite until now FW 177.73, because I make 15386 in Vantage with higher settings of RAM 800/2000/1172
    In Crysis bench also have increasing from 36 to 38 Avg FPS, Very high, DX10, 1680x1050
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    I Doubt this is the right place but which is better out of a 9800GTX+ and a 9800GX2 and why ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkninja462 View Post
    I Doubt this is the right place but which is better out of a 9800GTX+ and a 9800GX2 and why ?
    GX2, the GX2 has essentially two 9800GTX (G92) cores in one card, using native SLI rather than needing an SLI board and purchasing two separate 9800GTXs
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    Fellow 9800gx2-ers. Have any of you recently recieved bugged 3DM03 scores? like, excessively over 100k for single card?
    I've been getting quite a few ranging from 104k to 156k, most of these were under unstable gpu clocks and involved driver fails. What i think happens is the display driver fails but for some reason it does not stop the benchmark and somehow this boosts the score.
    Can someone verify that I'm not crazy by running 3dm03 at barely stable clocks, like 850/1170? if the display stops just keep waiting until the bench finishes, even if the screen is black the whole time.
    At the end you might have to click on 'options' to get it to display the score. At this point I'm not sure how to get a straight bench out of my card, I can only assume that if it yields a reasonable number it must be legit...

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    I don't own a gx2 but I think it is the true price/performance champ. When on special here it sometimes sells for 199.99 after rebate. That beats down anything from AMD or NV.

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