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Thread: Retail E5200 @ 4.317GHz on air result!

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdan View Post
    More than that ,15-20% i guess. From what i know E8400 and E5200 have the same core, 45nm, Intel virtualiztion E5200 does'nt have.
    The main diference is the cache which is 6mb for E8xxx and 2mb for E5200/
    Anyway this E5200 do a great concurence to E7xxx, and smash with al x2 series from Amd up to X2 6400, an even to triple core
    It's seems that Intel realy wants to crush Amd
    I dont think its 15-20%, I saw some tests a while ago where the e7300 was usually less than 5% slower, <10% in the worst cases, comparing with an wolfdale.

    The e5200 cache is just 1Mb smaller vs e7300, so I doubt it will be near 15% slower than an wolfdale.

    Not exactly the CPU's we are talking about, but here are some interesting core2duo 4Mb vs 2Mb cache numbers:

    http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=2795&p=4

    I'll try to find some concrete info
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    May be youțre right, thing is this Cpu, apperead from a mont, and even now, i can't found a serious review on net, all a i have found is some 3dmarks, and super Pi scores from forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdan View Post
    May be youțre right, thing is this Cpu, apperead from a mont, and even now, i can't found a serious review on net, all a i have found is some 3dmarks, and super Pi scores from forums
    I think superpi benefits alot from big caches, unlike most stuff out there

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    my e5200 and 4850 get almost 14000 in 3dmark06
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    Which would be the best 4GB RAM (2x 2GB) to achieve at least 320mhz FSB to achieve 4ghz?

    http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...L&promoid=1008

    http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...L&promoid=1008

    There is a price difference of $5. I find it weird that the PC6400 cost more than the PC8000, but possibly because it uses better chips and low timings?

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    I'm not sure about specific ICs used, but the g.skill models ending with Q (queen) are not as good as ones ending in K (king). As far as timings go, you should be able to do 4-4-4-12 @ 800 with either of them, and if you can OC the ddr2-800 sticks to ddr2-1000 then they would not run @ 4-4-4-12 at those speeds.

    CAS latency of 4 clocks @ 800mhz = 4/800 s = 1/200 s

    CAS latency of 5 clocks @ 1000mhz = 5/1000 s = 1/200 s

    You don't need the (guaranteed) faster stuff at all for that OC but if it's the same price I say go for it. Even if you run it at 800mhz you should still be able to do 4-4-4-12 so you haven't lost anything. I don't have experience w/ g.skill so I can't say how much of a difference there is between K and Q.
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    i planned on picking one of these chips up soon for my spare rig..
    im not to worried about voltage or anything..and im sure i can get 3.6 out of it..
    i had a e4300 when they first came out up to 3.8ghz benchable and 3.6ghz 24/7 on a horrible water system 3.4-3.5 on a TT blue orb air cooler..(not even close to the best air cooler)
    and thats a 65nm cpu that had high temps to boot compared to others and needed more voltage then other e4300s i found later on..

    so i think this chip will do just fine for my case mid 3ghz to 4ghz should be attainable on good air or ok water setups..

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    Got me a new toy today, trying to find the sweet spot.
    Vcore bios 1.425, droops to 1.344 under load.

    Don't wanne try higher vcore yet, as uncertain of cpu survival.
    Will see over the next couple of days how stable 3812MHz are.

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    Anyone here tried a DFI Blood Iron P35 board with the E5200?

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    Well, that's definitely not a regular chip. I wonder where do you guys get those with 2 sweet zeros in a "wafer-code"? This just can't be pure luck.
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    My E5200 is linpack stable (75 runs, 6 hours) at 3.38Ghz (270x12.5) with a Vcore of 1.304V (cpu-z).

    With this voltage it will boot unstable at 3.6 ghz (300x12), but won't at 3.8 ghz (300x12.5).

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    if this chip doesn't have virtualization, what effects does that have in real life applications?
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    This is my 24/7 clock. Anymore MHz takes a better cooler, linpack really heats thing up. Advise, save the money to a E0 8400 or better.

    Vcore bios 1.325, droops to 1.248



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    Pity.... Looks like the e7*00 series chips clock alot better, almost like e8*00 ones.

    Anyone knows if/when the new stepping will make its way to the budget chips ?

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    nice jobs man!

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    I'm waiting delivery... E5200 + Gigabyte P35-S3G + OCZ Vendetta 2
    What do you think, will I be able to clock it 3,4Ghz 24/7 ?
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    E5200 match pair with low cost mobo GIGABYTE GA-EP43-DS3R


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    Mad Prime @ 1.632V. by plain water


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    Wow you really had to relax tRD for that 1.6v run. Very nice though!

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    nice result..grats

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    Awesome work there

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    Another one in the 4GHz+ club, lucky FPO 3828A748. I'm seriously thinking on putting it to an Assrock 945G mobo to have some fun with the DFI buck-spending fanboys around here.
    Venom, you're going to kill it with that voltage...
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    Buy this : G31M-GS it seems that it can hit 340 fsb and even more with a 800 FSB CPU. Luck at the video G31M-GS
    http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=G31M-S
    And here is the first review with E5200 and E7300.
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...pdc-e5200.html

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    In Romania it's being found under the name of 4Core1600-D800, kind of the same. Nevertheless, the pci lock/sata faints over fsb 340, a little bit under the point where Conroe1333-D667 loses control (around 360) which can be a nice margin with this 12.5x multi
    I have them both but the old one is much better...
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    Real big latin tits #10 DVD. Caligula strikes again!
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