ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[ChaosAD]

I have both chips and I'm trying to make that decsion right now.
I like the power of a quad but the higher c2d clocks will be nice.
I should have some benches and screenies today.
The bios has alot more options than MFI/Rampage so its a learning day today.
Took maybe 1/2 hour to get my 9550 stable at 450x8.5 where on the MF board I could not get it above 425! Still have to lower a few volts but for the most part I'm happy with 3825MHz

Even running a Q9550@3800, if i m lucky on the chip ofc, i guess its much faster that a q6600@3600. I wouldnt really like to downgrade from 4 cores down to 2 tbh although 4+Ghz sounds sweet Plz post benchmarks with Q6600+q9550+e8600 both at same clock speeds+at max clock speeds. I know its time consuming but c'mon u have all day for it

Do u also experience the PL issue? Can u run it as low as the MF1 board? Can u run 400 strap?

[Grnfinger]

Even running a Q9550@3800, if i m lucky on the chip ofc, i guess its much faster that a q6600@3600. I wouldnt really like to downgrade from 4 cores down to 2 tbh although 4+Ghz sounds sweet Plz post benchmarks with Q6600+q9550+e8600 both at same clock speeds+at max clock speeds. I know its time consuming but c'mon u have all day for it

Do u also experience the PL issue? Can u run it as low as the MF1 board? Can u run 400 strap?

I honestly dont know what PL setting I'm running.
My everest is version 4.50.1330 and its reports "unkown motherboard"
So I'm currently sniffing for a release that supports this board.
I'm sure with pull ins enabled I can get to PL 7 or atleast 8.

I cant show you benches of a 6600, sold it long ago, BUT I can show 6700
It should be close enough.
Gotta cut the grass then I'll start swapping cpus and run some tests

[mr-rob]

Even running a Q9550@3800, if i m lucky on the chip ofc, i guess its much faster that a q6600@3600. I wouldnt really like to downgrade from 4 cores down to 2 tbh although 4+Ghz sounds sweet Plz post benchmarks with Q6600+q9550+e8600 both at same clock speeds+at max clock speeds. I know its time consuming but c'mon u have all day for it

Do u also experience the PL issue? Can u run it as low as the MF1 board? Can u run 400 strap?

It's quite sure that running at 3800 is better than 3600
There's no big deal running a lower PL, unless you absolutly want to SuperPI.
Clock2Clock Q45nm Vs Q65nm is a little better and run colder. But cost a lot more.

e8xxx with 4ghz and more is just for fun... If you just play and to basic stuffs it's nice. Just try to encode video @ 4Ghz with a C2D...-> a "poor" Q6600@3.6Ghz will perform better.

[ChaosAD]

Gotta cut the grass then I'll start swapping cpus and run some tests

Oh, you dont have kids to do the job for you? U must be more strict i think
Yep 6700 will also do the job np.

[Grnfinger]

Oh, you dont have kids to do the job for you? U must be more strict i think
Yep 6700 will also do the job np.

My kids are 3 and 9, not to much help there





Working on tighter timing and lower PL.
Very pleased so far, couldnt get my Quad to post past 425FSB on the Maximus. Have not tried anything higher yet, will try 500x8 shortly.

[chiman2]

Have you enable the J-Micron controller? You will need this set to enable to run PATA drives.

Well it depends on your room temps, I have mine running at 3.8 at it runs around 42 to 44 as reported by HW-monitor but PC probe 2 reports it around 30 to 32. But I have a very air-flow case in the CM Cosmos-S

where do i go to enable the J-Micron controller? i mean the drive will play anything else. just wont use 64 bit discs.

i also notice you have the zalman 9700. is it suppose to be able to twist around?

[ChaosAD]

Working on tighter timing and lower PL.
Very pleased so far, couldnt get my Quad to post past 425FSB on the Maximus. Have not tried anything higher yet, will try 500x8 shortly.

I dont really like the ram performance on everest. Latency seems to high
Waiting for 8x500 stability/bench

I aslo see u run a C1 stepping chip. Anyone know if the newer E0 will be better performers?

[Grnfinger]

I dont really like the ram performance on everest. Latency seems to high
Waiting for 8x500 stability/bench

I aslo see u run a C1 stepping chip. Anyone know if the newer E0 will be better performers?

The E0 is better, for sure.
Like I said I have yet to tweak the ram.
Heres a bios setup

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1081
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Advanced 250ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Advanced 250ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Advanced 250ps


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : AUTO
MEM OC Charger : AUTO
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [8]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 110

CPU Voltage : 1.35
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : +20mv
CPU GTL Reference 1 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 2 : +10mv
CPU GTL Reference 3 : +20mv
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[WaterFlex]

Grnfinger, mate, I think it would be better for u to make 500x8 with syncro 1:1. Look my results on the previous page

[ChaosAD]

The only thing for sure is that the required Voltages needed for all components are much lower compared to MF1 for the same amount of OC

[WaterFlex]

ChaosAD, I`m agree

[Grnfinger]

[Grnfinger]

Some ram sub timing tweaks

[WaterFlex]

Grnfinger , do u see my msg above ?

[Grnfinger]

Grnfinger , do u see my msg above ?

yes I will try your suggestion shortly.
Trying to compare old MF settings to new board
My GSkills are limited tho, I might have to grab a new kit on Monday
Wonder if the Mushkin Xtremes work well with this board

[chiman2]

where do i go to enable the J-Micron controller? i mean the drive will play anything else. just wont use 64 bit discs.

i also notice you have the zalman 9700. is it suppose to be able to twist around?

any one i need help badly.

[Grnfinger]

any one i need help badly.

whats your troubles?

[chiman2]

ok im trying to instal a 64 bit os and it wont let me. i set the boot priority to the cd drive. put my disc in and it wont work it says "reboot and select correct boot device or put in boot media in selected device and press a key" my 32 bit os disks work though? do i have to change a setting? im stuck. i really need to get a 64 bit os on.

[Grnfinger]

ok im trying to instal a 64 bit os and it wont let me. i set the boot priority to the cd drive. put my disc in and it wont work it says "reboot and select correct boot device or put in boot media in selected device and press a key" my 32 bit os disks work though? do i have to change a setting? im stuck. i really need to get a 64 bit os on.

The only time I had this issue is when I left a USB stick in the rig.
I installed Vista 64bit without changing ANY bios setting, I set my drives to raid and everything installed correctly.

Can the disk be read on another pc?

another thing you can try is... pop the cd inthe tray and while the pc is posting press F8 key till you get the boot options and select your cd rom to boot from.

[kup]

any one i need help badly.

Chi, you gotta read the manual!!! Everything you're getting stuck on is in there...

At a guess, not owning the board myself (yet , Grnfinger I'm coming out to play!!!) you want the Onboard Device Configuration menu, it's in there.

[chiman2]

The only time I had this issue is when I left a USB stick in the rig.
I installed Vista 64bit without changing ANY bios setting, I set my drives to raid and everything installed correctly.

Can the disk be read on another pc?

another thing you can try is... pop the cd inthe tray and while the pc is posting press F8 key till you get the boot options and select your cd rom to boot from.

this is my only computer capable of 64 bit. maybe i should try reseting cmos?

i was checking the manual looking for a phone number to call and i found this.

intel em64t


o yea what bios are you running?
the motherboard comes with a bios file that supports em64t. you can download the latest bios file from the asus website (www.asus.com/support/download/) but that url doesnt work.

i will try f8 and onboard device config. thanks

will report back in 5 mins so stay tuned.

[chiman2]

pressed f8 didnt work. reset bios didnt work. checked on board devices ide thing was enabled the whole time so that didnt work.

should i call asus tech support?

[Grnfinger]

pressed f8 didnt work. reset bios didnt work. checked on board devices ide thing was enabled the whole time so that didnt work.

should i call asus tech support?

What bios version are you running?
A call to Asus would not hurt but I find it strange that it wont boot that disk but it will boot 32bit disk.
I'm still leaning towards the media being corrupt, but without another pc to check it

USA ASUS phone number is 510.739.3777 option 2
Good luck!

[chiman2]

im on 802 bios. they dont have a toll free number? is there any chance where something was wrong to the point i would have to rma it or is that not applicable here? i would rather not rma it

[Grnfinger]

im on 802 bios. they dont have a toll free number? is there any chance where something was wrong to the point i would have to rma it or is that not applicable here? i would rather not rma it

Asus wont be opend till Monday now, I'm not sure about a toll free number.
If the mobo will install a 32bit OS then I highly doubt its a faulty board but I could be wrong on this.

You could start a thread in hopes someone has encounterd this problem b4 and can point you to the soloution, it wouldnt hurt any. I honestly dont have any suggestions