Well.. I can say this much. I put the K9A2 back in and everything fired up fine. The new cooler dropped my idle temps about 5-10*c and 20 on load with Prime running for an hour.. I say that is a good. I am going to try my x2 4200+ and some 800mhz ram and see it the boards responds..probably won't but who knows. I will then RMA.I will have my next board on it's way.
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
No one has really talked about the x3's would be nice to see how they do as well...Originally Posted by oldpueblo
Never fear, I'll be the backup guy with my x8450 on stock cooler with the same board. Stay tuned for probably nothing amazing as I take my wife's new machine into overdrive.
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
You've probably already tried this, but I was wondering what the results were with the new board with air cooling.. Did it POST then?
it didn't post on air either... it did however post with my 4200+ and 800 ram..I am going to try Phenom and 800 ram and see what happens.. I shall return...
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
I think I would've used the X2 first.
I've got a sempron for that lol
HAVE NO FEAR!
"AMD fallen angel"
You didn't get the memo? 1 hour 'Fugger time' is equal to 12 hours of regular time.
well here is my first attempt past 3.1.. which I had recently had to take down to 2.8 on my K9A2 with the exact same parts...Oh. yes It lives MuaHahahaha.....I found 3 chokes had cold soldier joints..,.Check these if you get this board... any who.. here is the screenie. notice barely any voltage has this going.. I was NEVER ever able to get 3.2 even set, period, even just a moment ago when I had my Plat hooked back up with the H20 running...
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
Good job... Now give it abit more vcore and push it more plz
wooo hooooo
so it looks like the old ACC works
overdrive looks cool as well,
LOOL... ohhhh it works.. her look at this...OHH CPU-z voltage is way off....
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=400771
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
[QUOTE=charged3800z24;3203043]well here is my first attempt past 3.1.. which I had recently had to take down to 2.8 on my K9A2 with the exact same parts...Oh. yes It lives MuaHahahaha.....I found 3 chokes had cold soldier joints..,.Check these if you get this board... any who.. here is the screenie. notice barely any voltage has this going.. I was NEVER ever able to get 3.2 even set, period, even just a moment ago when I had my Plat hooked back up with the H20 running...
what does that mean
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4x1gig 8500 gkill bpk
2x opteron 8224 @ 3.8ghz
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winxp pro
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bix3-with x3panaflo hi output
antec 850 quattro
heat under msimax abitmax and dfimax
[QUOTE=msimax;3203144]The soldier had cooled before the joint set, causing a loose connection. I had to pull off old soldier and redue them.well here is my first attempt past 3.1.. which I had recently had to take down to 2.8 on my K9A2 with the exact same parts...Oh. yes It lives MuaHahahaha.....I found 3 chokes had cold soldier joints..,.Check these if you get this board... any who.. here is the screenie. notice barely any voltage has this going.. I was NEVER ever able to get 3.2 even set, period, even just a moment ago when I had my Plat hooked back up with the H20 running...
what does that mean
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
now, my next question is.. has anyone found info on how to change the ACC setting manually?.. I wonder if it will help het better clocks.. since each core seems to have there onw quirks...
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
Maybe he meant these were not soldered properly ?Dunno.
Great results charged3800z24!Your Phenom has become a New Phenom.How stable is that 3.3Ghz clock?
Is this on a 780G/SB700 board?Or your new 790G/SB750 one?
Ahh i wish AMD launched a B3+SB750 back in damn October last year.But hey,it's never too late to bring good stuff out.Soon Deneb is coming,as well as AM3(DDR3) platform.Fun times ahead!
I was thinking this too as CPU-Z validation displays 780G/SB700
It means Gigabyte quality.what does that mean
Yes they were not soldiered correctly...Maybe he meant these were not soldered properly ?Dunno.
Great results charged3800z24!Your Phenom has become a New Phenom
Is this on a 780G/SB700 board?Or your new 790G/SB750 one?
Ahh i wish AMD launched a B3+SB750 back in damn October last year.But hey,it's never too late to bring good stuff out.Soon Deneb is coming,as well as AM3(DDR3) platform.Fun times ahead!This is on the new 790GX /SB750
I am running prime and will see... I don't thibk it will be prime stable..this chip seems to be quirky lately...I am thinking on getting a 9950.. but I might as well wait till 45nm...
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
ohhh god i gota get one pronto, i would love to see that Multi slide right up to 20x (i know it wont) and wala, 4 gig phenom
i am very i pressed with this result so far, and i bet you are too
even 3.2 gig prime stable, would do me
what would you like to see out of it?
Heck... I wish they had launched the SB750 with the B2 chips. If the Phenom had been overclocking to 3.4Ghz at that time... not many people would have cared about the TLB especially if it could be turned off.
Because of that "history" even now with the SB750 and people starting to easily hit 3.3Ghz-3.5Ghz people will still be claiming that Phenom doesn't overclock. Even if someone gets 3.8Ghz that opinion will still persist for a long time.
The only important question is what is the AVERAGE overclock of the competition that the Phenom needs to compete with. I see many people claim they can benchmark at 3.6Ghz but then they back it down to 3.4 or 3.2 because of temperatures. The real problem with the competition is they can use extreme cooling and increase to extreme voltages and keep getting more. The IMC chips doesn't seem to work that way. But the fact remains that people see "extreme" results and accept them up as something to compare against regardless of what the average may be.
I'd like to see 3.2-3.3Ghz at almost stock voltages. And I'd like to see the extreme people hit almost 4.0Ghz validated on the 65nm parts. (And 3.8Ghz benchable.)
Charged seems have covered that first part... now we'll have to see what others can do about the rest.
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well 3.3 on the voltage I had was not stable.. it dropped core "0" just. But more V might do the trick.. I have a good hunch 3.2 is going to be where i set her. I also tried to do a OC with ACC off.. and hahaha on this board I got 2.8 bootable nothing else woot load...I now wonder if the MSI K9A2 Plat had the SB750.. I'd better it would clock better ...
~1~
AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
GigaByte X570 AORUS LITE
Trident-Z 3200 CL14 16GB
AMD Radeon VII
~2~
AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 2950x
Asus Prime X399-A
GSkill Flare-X 3200mhz, CAS14, 64GB
AMD RX 5700 XT
ACC works,and unlike Shintel claimed in News Section a while back,it isn't a marketing spin.And it is different on the hardware level.
AMD said one should expect from 100 to 300Mhz over SB600,seems they underestimated it by 100-200Mhz)
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Corsair TX750W | Sapphire 6970 2GB || BeQuiet PurePower 450w | HD 4850
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I don't suppose you could take some pics of your bios options and post them? I still can't get ACC to work and I'm starting to wonder if gigabyte somehow turned it off for the x3's.And incidentally I was having issues running 8GB in all four slots, so after a ton of memtesting where I almost got through multiple passes stable after upping northbridge and DDR voltage, I finally decided to drop to 4GB (2x2) and start playing more with overclocking.
Phenom x4 9950
GA-MA790GP-DS4H (790GX)
8GB PDC24G8500ELKR2
Phenom x3 8450
GA-MA78GPM-DS2H (780G)
4GB TWIN2X4096-6400C5DHX
Well, so far my experience with the ASUS M3A78-T has been pretty much pants. ACC offers me no improvement over no ACC. I'm still not stable above 2800MHz no matter where I adjust ACC to. I do like how this board's bios doesn't have to be cleared before each boot though.
What ACC has shown me so far is that it doesn't seem to do jack for helping OC. It just seems to prevent crashes due to "clock interrupt not received" bullwithout actually decreasing the frequency of computational errors. At 2.9GHz I don't instacrash but it's only like 5 seconds Prime stable until I jack the voltage above 1.425V. Then, it's only stable for a few minutes. It doesn't just crash like on my old board, but rounding errors spoil the usefulness.
Anyway, my review so far would be as described below.
Pick one of the following:
- Well, I guess my CPU is just a bona fide lemon.
- ACC reduces total system failure but doesn't really help computationally stable overclocks.
- ASUS's current BIOS is still just immature.
- ASUS's M3A78-T has an absolute pants implementation of ACC.
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You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
Have you verified that ACC is working by checking in with the latest AOD?Maybe it's just the BIOS not setting it up to "on" at all.Asus has one of the laziest BIOS support out there.I owned 3 boards so far,1 from K7 days,2 from K8/X2 days,all weren't top notch when it comes to BIOS...
AOD does show ACC to be on and set to whatever I select in the BIOS.
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
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