Apogee GTZ

[Martinm210]

Gabe you have a PM and an email.
I'd be happy to test it with the other blocks. I'm about ready to take a break from the radiator testing so I'm getting ready to start back in on the CPU block testing pretty soon.
If not, no problem...

[majestik]

It's almost tuesday!

[twwen2]

It's almost tuesday!

It's tuesday down here...

[NaeKuh]

Martin this test has priority over my stepped cuplex.

your results will dictate if i buy it or not.


And once again thank you for your work martin

[majestik]

/cricket

[YMAA]

Like I saw it said on here someplace, if a dog turd would cool a CPU better than any block on the market, it would be used

I draw the line at dog crap. Even if it could cool better, the smell would make the computer so unusable I'd never sit there long enough to look at the temps.

[ThrustSSC]

Gabe you have a PM and an email.
I'd be happy to test it with the other blocks. I'm about ready to take a break from the radiator testing so I'm getting ready to start back in on the CPU block testing pretty soon.
If not, no problem...

Martin, any chance you will test the D5? it seems in accurate in your flow meter

[evil-98]

Martin, any chance you will test the D5? it seems in accurate in your flow meter

have you read this test? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=170217

[orclev]

Seeing as people are using this as a chance to bring up preferences (and seeing as various manufacturers are reading this) thought I'd mention my preferences (although as mentioned by several others, performance counts first, and then you can shop around for good looks). Personally, I think acrylic is waaaay overdone, but that's mostly because I want to do something more reserved in my builds (I do have to look at them regularly after all), so I rather not have the guts of my computer looking like something from a the Vegas strip. To a certain extent just sticking to two or three predominate colors goes a long way towards achieving that, but eliminating excessive acrylic helps a lot as well. In the case of my latest build I opted for clear tubing with acetel blocks. Had I opted for acrylic blocks I probably would have gone with black tubing (or some other solid color) just to mute the overall look of the system.

Which brings me to why I'm even mentioning it in this thread. I really like the way EK releases 2 versions of their blocks, one with a clear acrylic top, and one with a solid black acetel top. It gives the builder a way to fine tune the look of the system. That said I understand that in some cases it's not economically feasible to have multiple versions of essentially the same block, but even selling an alternative replacement top to a particular block can go a long way towards getting not just the performance you want, but the looks you want as well.

Really anxious to see the guts of this new block, as well as some performance metrics, but as far as looks go, it's not bad. Not the best looking block I've ever seen, but definitely not the worst either. For me personally, if I was going to change it, I'd probably replace the mounting brackets with something flat black, but over all I'd be happy with it in my case as is (assuming it performs well anyway).

[Movieman]

The mental image just hit my funny bone.
I can see it now, you click on Swiftechs site and the first thing that greets you is this:
Welcome!
Swiftech is proud to release our new waterblock.
The DT1.. Better performance, formed from one solid block of 100% pure copper to satisfy Naekuh!
Try the new DT1 or Dog Turd as we call it!

[Utnorris]

LOL!

[Xilikon]

That's a good one...

[philbrown23]

will there be a TEC version of this block to? that would be killer!

[Martinm210]

Martin, any chance you will test the D5? it seems in accurate in your flow meter

I retested it a few weeks ago, I just need to create the new trendlines and plug it in. It's still not as strong as the DDCs with tops, but it may be a little better than the curve that's currently in there.

Ok, back on topic with the GTZ..

[majestik]

Ok, back on topic with the GTZ..

go on

[Martinm210]

go on

Sorry guys, I turned down the offer on this sample. I had to take a good look at what I've got piled up around me from previous sample providers, and I've still got 12 weeks worth of samples and reviews to work through. It's just not fair to the previous sample providers to drop what's already been submitted..

Anyhow, you guys will have to sort this one out. I'm not taking any new samples until I get caught up with what I have and that'll be several months down the road.

My vote for best tester on this forum goes to Niksub1..

He's the pioneer of the 5 mount method I've been following anyhow which I agree 100% is a must do for any worthwhile test results (Accuracy better than 2 degrees).

[Xilikon]

Wise move on your part, Martin

I agree Nihksub1 would be the right guy to do a proper testing

[orclev]

You know, it's kind of funny, as I was reading your last post (martin) the first thought through my head was "Man, I would love to have piles of stuff from manufacturers to play with", which was followed shortly by "God I bet that gets mind numbing really fast". I figure it's probably a lot like video game testing, sure it sounds like a good idea at first, but when you're sitting there doing the same thing again for the 9,000 time in the last week it suddenly seems like a lot less fun. There's also the effect I've seen first hand where when something goes from a hobby to work you suddenly find you don't enjoy doing it nearly as much as you used to.

Edit: Forgot to say, you do really great work Martin, and I'm sure we all understand that you're only one guy and you can only do so much.

[Martinm210]

You know, it's kind of funny, as I was reading your last post (martin) the first thought through my head was "Man, I would love to have piles of stuff from manufacturers to play with", which was followed shortly by "God I bet that gets mind numbing really fast". I figure it's probably a lot like video game testing, sure it sounds like a good idea at first, but when you're sitting there doing the same thing again for the 9,000 time in the last week it suddenly seems like a lot less fun. There's also the effect I've seen first hand where when something goes from a hobby to work you suddenly find you don't enjoy doing it nearly as much as you used to.

Edit: Forgot to say, you do really great work Martin, and I'm sure we all understand that you're only one guy and you can only do so much.

Yeah it was fun at first, but I'm at the point now where it's become work.

Worst part is, I have a good job. I could go into work and net $30+/hr on overtime. Good testing on something like a radiator takes nearly 15 hours of testing. I could buy alot of radiators for that amount of time. I only do it because I enjoy helping people on these forums and I have fun when I'm not overly booked, but I have to take a step back now and then and get a reality check. I've got too much on the plate right now and have to back off for a while.

[nikhsub1]

Martin, it is very hard for people to understand... heck, I've only tested BLOCKS and I can barely find the time. You are doing fans, rads, fittings, blocks, pumps etc, etc etc. People don't realize that it takes me about 12 hours to test one block with 5 mounts... If I make $100/hour you can see how it adds up... Manufacturers should really be PAYING people like you to independently test and validate data - of course this data would not be public but you would be PAID. This is what BillA tried to do at one time but never succeeded at it. I mean for a mfgr to pay a few hundred dollars for you to test and validate seems to be chump change.

/rant off

[Eddie3dfx]

Yeah it was fun at first, but I'm at the point now where it's become work.

Worst part is, I have a good job. I could go into work and net $30+/hr on overtime. Good testing on something like a radiator takes nearly 15 hours of testing. I could buy alot of radiators for that amount of time. I only do it because I enjoy helping people on these forums and I have fun when I'm not overly booked, but I have to take a step back now and then and get a reality check. I've got too much on the plate right now and have to back off for a while.

Take a break. Once it turns into work, it's not fun anymore. Work and enjoy life and then when you get that itch to test, go back and do a few rounds.

[nikhsub1]

Wise move on your part, Martin

I agree Nihksub1 would be the right guy to do a proper testing

Haha thanks for the kind words but Swiftech won't be sending me anything to test anytime soon... For some reason Gabe thinks I'm a 'Swiftech hater' which for the record I am not. I realize I can be a bit harsh and off the cuff but I have no hate or ill will toward ANY one or ANY mfgr.

[ThrustSSC]

Honestly martin, I think you need to charge companies for testing their products. It will make testing a lot more fun and motivating .

[Xilikon]

Haha thanks for the kind words but Swiftech won't be sending me anything to test anytime soon... For some reason Gabe thinks I'm a 'Swiftech hater' which for the record I am not. I realize I can be a bit harsh and off the cuff but I have no hate or ill will toward ANY one or ANY mfgr.

It's their loss, not yours If Martin tell you can do that and Gabe ignore it, he is alienating a big market

[jonny_ftm]

I was sticking to my GT. Now, I think I'll stick to my Q6600. So, I need a new WB

With Martin's dropping the tests, it'll take weeks and weeks before we see any valid tests of this yet unreleased WB.

I'm one going to Enzotech Rev.A full copper new WB. The previous version is 1.5°C close to the EK Supreme, yet keeping a great flow. This Rev.A should solve the acrylic haters problem and at least, it is a sure value.

I must say, that for me, Martin's tests are of a major importance before to buy

Good luck Martin with your job and WB testing hobby, not easy to manage both