**Official DFI LanParty UT X48-T2R(and LT) Discussion

[Clunk]

Looking at it, my guess is yes, the reason that the TRUE doesn't fit on now is because the top edge of the NB heatsink nearest the CPU catches on the pipes on the TRUE. If you were to remove a small amount of that edge, the TRUE would fit.

The new heatpipe setup is much lower and the NB cooler itself clips off.

So my guess is that it is doable

[eva2000]

On some sites,the UT version is starting to appear,and available to preorder.The question is:do you think that with the Thermalright heatpipe cooling and a NB cooler which is much little than the one from the LT version,will the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme fit without a hitch?


Thanks in advance

let ya know when my DFI UT X48 arrive

[[KI]Keen]

Hi,

I got a new DFI Lanparty LT T2R with an E8400 and just started to OC it. When Orthos runs, CoreTemp and Everest indicate that the temperatures of core 1 und 2 differ approximately 10°C. SG only shows the temperature of the colder core. I´ve already flashed to BIOS 03/20 and can not believe that there can be such a difference between the core temps.

The option to increase the temp manually is Disabled!

Any idea why this happens or which temperature I should trust?

Thanks
Keen

[CoolZone]

let ya know when my DFI UT X48 arrive

thanks a lot eva2000.I'm looking forward to it

[wilson]

Hi,

I got a new DFI Lanparty LT T2R with an E8400 and just started to OC it. When Orthos runs, CoreTemp and Everest indicate that the temperatures of core 1 und 2 differ approximately 10°C. SG only shows the temperature of the colder core. I´ve already flashed to BIOS 03/20 and can not believe that there can be such a difference between the core temps.

The option to increase the temp manually is Disabled!

Any idea why this happens or which temperature I should trust?

Thanks
Keen

Its the cpu google it and you will find alot of people are getting that problem on different motherboards
and i would also trust the higher temp as at idle it should be about 33-36 per core.
Also is the colder core stuck at that temp or does it move about ?

[[KI]Keen]

Its the cpu google it and you will find alot of people are getting that problem on different motherboards
and i would also trust the higher temp as at idle it should be about 33-36 per core.
Also is the colder core stuck at that temp or does it move about ?

Hi wilson,

no the colder core also gets hotter under stress and cools down again when the CPU is idle. It is always a diffence of about 10°C. So if the CPU is idle Core #0 40°C and Core #1 31°C and under load Core #0 52°C and Core #1 42°C.

I´ve removed the cooler to see if the is anything wrong with the surface of the cooler and the CPU but everything is fine. I heard about the problems with the E8xxx CPUs but I thought it was fixed with the new BIOS.

[wilson]

I thought you had the problem with one core working and the other sticking. Maybe your heatsink on the cpu is faulty or your thermal grease is not spread even on the cpu. Have you tried it in another mobo just to see ??

[Psycho_eddie]

Hey wilson what temps prime95 loaded you get?

Idle load on the nb also?

[zsamz_]

Looking at it, my guess is yes, the reason that the TRUE doesn't fit on now is because the top edge of the NB heatsink nearest the CPU catches on the pipes on the TRUE. If you were to remove a small amount of that edge, the TRUE would fit.

The new heatpipe setup is much lower and the NB cooler itself clips off.

So my guess is that it is doable

yup mine was touchin verry slightly so i just grinded her down a little

[davewolfs]

Any reason why the Q9350 and Q9450 are not on the CPU support list?

[RGone]

List not updated.

Any reason why the Q9350 and Q9450 are not on the CPU support list?

[drnick79]

I have that set, only 4 gigs worth thou and not 8, and I've had a lot of problems with this board since i bought it. I do have a new chip, E8400, a new BIOS, and I'll be working on seeing what these sticks can do this Sunday.

I have had boot issues with almost all of the straps other than 333/1066. I don't have another board to test the modules in so atm I'm uncertain as to what's the culprit.

I am having quite a bit of trouble with this board. Running memory even at stock speed and timings is a herculean task. I've tried three different brands of ram that I know work on other mobos (gskill, crucial, and transcend axeram) that will pass memtest at default speeds on this board (667 to 800mhz), and it is a struggle to get the board to post even near stock. I've been running a low multiplier giving a cpu speed near cpu stock to take the cpu out of the equation. I've bumped up cpu vtt and nb volts gradually, and loosened the tRFC and PL values, and set the memory subtimings to "relaxed". I've focused on using the 266 and 333 straps, but have tried the 200 and 400 straps just for sheetz and giggles. Even taking these steps results in a no post with a "C1" LED code most of the time (not predictable though- sometimes a setting that would post previously will not post on a subsequent attempt). Other times, the board will not post and will hang with an "88" LED code- I can't even find what error that stands for-but it requires a hard power off to function again. I tried both the 307 and 320 bios, and there is no difference as far as I can tell.

It's a poor musician who blames his instrument for a lackluster performance, but is there any chance I have a defective board???

[adya]

I am having quite a bit of trouble with this board. Running memory even at stock speed and timings is a herculean task. I've tried three different brands of ram that I know work on other mobos (gskill, crucial, and transcend axeram) that will pass memtest at default speeds on this board (667 to 800mhz), and it is a struggle to get the board to post even near stock. I've been running a low multiplier giving a cpu speed near cpu stock to take the cpu out of the equation. I've bumped up cpu vtt and nb volts gradually, and loosened the tRFC and PL values, and set the memory subtimings to "relaxed". I've focused on using the 266 and 333 straps, but have tried the 200 and 400 straps just for sheetz and giggles. Even taking these steps results in a no post with a "C1" LED code most of the time (not predictable though- sometimes a setting that would post previously will not post on a subsequent attempt). Other times, the board will not post and will hang with an "88" LED code- I can't even find what error that stands for-but it requires a hard power off to function again. I tried both the 307 and 320 bios, and there is no difference as far as I can tell.

It's a poor musician who blames his instrument for a lackluster performance, but is there any chance I have a defective board???

im prime/everest/memtest stable at 475fsb /3.8ghz/1140mhz. it even post with no probs now.
id say it was luck and help from gys on this forum becuase im an xtreme noob. but if u want i can post my bios settings. maybe a small bump in volts may make the difference.

[adya]

its says for code 88 - that possible cause is defective motherboard /nb chipset. or bios data mixed. it suggest to clear cmos or if defective mobo rma.

[zsamz_]

I am having quite a bit of trouble with this board. Running memory even at stock speed and timings is a herculean task. I've tried three different brands of ram that I know work on other mobos (gskill, crucial, and transcend axeram) that will pass memtest at default speeds on this board (667 to 800mhz), and it is a struggle to get the board to post even near stock. I've been running a low multiplier giving a cpu speed near cpu stock to take the cpu out of the equation. I've bumped up cpu vtt and nb volts gradually, and loosened the tRFC and PL values, and set the memory subtimings to "relaxed". I've focused on using the 266 and 333 straps, but have tried the 200 and 400 straps just for sheetz and giggles. Even taking these steps results in a no post with a "C1" LED code most of the time (not predictable though- sometimes a setting that would post previously will not post on a subsequent attempt). Other times, the board will not post and will hang with an "88" LED code- I can't even find what error that stands for-but it requires a hard power off to function again. I tried both the 307 and 320 bios, and there is no difference as far as I can tell.

It's a poor musician who blames his instrument for a lackluster performance, but is there any chance I have a defective board???

try not goin on auto with gtl settings try clunk's settings
on error 88 you gotta cut power from psu
even then i'd rma the board if i couldt run stock

[axis]

yup mine was touchin verry slightly so i just grinded her down a little

Ditto here too. Just about a cm off the rear side will do the trick.

Axis

[davewolfs]

Did anyone tryed the mobo with the G.Skill F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK memory? cause I have 4 modules (8gb total) to want plug in.

I'd like to hear about these sticks too.

[Clunk]

I am having quite a bit of trouble with this board. Running memory even at stock speed and timings is a herculean task. I've tried three different brands of ram that I know work on other mobos (gskill, crucial, and transcend axeram) that will pass memtest at default speeds on this board (667 to 800mhz), and it is a struggle to get the board to post even near stock. I've been running a low multiplier giving a cpu speed near cpu stock to take the cpu out of the equation. I've bumped up cpu vtt and nb volts gradually, and loosened the tRFC and PL values, and set the memory subtimings to "relaxed". I've focused on using the 266 and 333 straps, but have tried the 200 and 400 straps just for sheetz and giggles. Even taking these steps results in a no post with a "C1" LED code most of the time (not predictable though- sometimes a setting that would post previously will not post on a subsequent attempt). Other times, the board will not post and will hang with an "88" LED code- I can't even find what error that stands for-but it requires a hard power off to function again. I tried both the 307 and 320 bios, and there is no difference as far as I can tell.

It's a poor musician who blames his instrument for a lackluster performance, but is there any chance I have a defective board???

Here is a full list of BIOS error codes.

In the past, I have had the 88 error and it is usually when I've gone too far on an overclock and managed to corrupt the CMOS.

If that's the case, you can usually fix it with a CMOS clear - I would do a battery out CMOS clear, just to be certain, and leave it for a good few mins.

Also, have you got the RAM voltage set properly and not on AUTO? - Sorry if that sounds obvious, but a lot of people seem to leave it on AUTO and expect miracles

Another thing that made me get the 88 error was a CPU that had quite literally been overvolted within an inch of it's life I had been using high CPU PLL voltage on it and it had degraded so much that it just wouldnt overclock much any more with any stability.

If you hadn't already said you had tested it, my money would have been on the RAM as the main culprit. A dead or dying stick of RAM can cause all the problems you are having.

[lopri]

Figured I'd post my 24/7 setup with a Q6600 and G.Skill 1000MHz RAM (2x2GB). 3.6GHz, 9x400, 4:5, DDR2-1000/5-5-5-13. This is Prime LargeFFT 8 hours stable (multiple runs) and also stable through multiple runs of PCMark Vantage.

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Enabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Enabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Auto
- Execute Disable Bit: Enabled
- Virtualization Technology: Enabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
Shutdown after AC Loss: Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 9x
- Target CPU Clock: 3600
CPU Clock: 400
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
DRAM Speed: 266/667
- Target DRAM Speed: 1000
PCIE Clock: 100MHz
PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: Auto (This reads 1.29V in CPU-Z under idle)
CPU VID Special Add: 107.79% (This reads 1.42V in CPU-Z under load)
DRAM Voltage Control: 1.956V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.510V
NB Core Voltage: 1.330v
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.227v
Vcore Droop Control: Disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Enable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 105
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 100
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 85

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 1 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Clock fine delay: Curren
- DIMM 1 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 2 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: More Aggressive
- DIMM 3 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Clock fine delay: Current
- DIMM 3 Control fine delay: Current
- DIMM 4 Control fine delay: Current
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: More Aggressive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 13
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): Auto

Read delay phase adjust: Enter

Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0): 6-6-6-5
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enable
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO

Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0): 6-6-6-5
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Enable
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto

MCH ODT Latency: 1
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: 4

The biggest factor of Prime failure for me has been heat more than anything else. As long as all cores stay under 65C, things are fine. For 450FSB the NB needed 1.43V+ for reliable POST. (Below that, sometimes it POSTs and sometimes not) And 450FSB took the tRD up to 7-8 with 2GB sticks so overall I didn't think it's worth it. (compared to tRD=6 @400FSB with pseudo tRD=5 using the Pull-In)

[Beefy22]

I have this board and am loving it so far ...

Right now I have a CPU with a known FSB wall of 380, The little allendale will ultimately find it's way to a future HTPC rig. But for now I'm unsure whether I should pair this board with a q6600 or e8400? I don't think I've seen many people with the DFI LT X48-T2R @ 500+FSB...

[wilson]

Hey wilson what temps prime95 loaded you get?

Idle load on the nb also?

Hi m8 well at idle i get 24 NB and 30 ish on all cores but in prime after say an hour os so i seem to be about 55 on NB and all my cores. I think my NB is high because its 2nd on my loop after my cpu and as soon as i stop Prime it drops back to 24-30 almost straight away.

[Masami]

On some sites,the UT version is starting to appear,and available to preorder.The question is:do you think that with the Thermalright heatpipe cooling and a NB cooler which is much little than the one from the LT version,will the Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme fit without a hitch?


Thanks in advance

Look here...

[drnick79]

Thanks everyone for all of the replies.

I've been able to deal with the code 88 hangs by a hard power down, plus or minus a CMOS clear.

I've tried three different brands of memory that are both memtest and orthos blend stable (even overclocked) in other mobos, so I think the RAM is good. I'm just trying to get PC8500 memory to run at or near stock 1066mhz with this mobo, and it is a real battle. I've tried a range of RAM voltages (I think all 3 brands state a recommended voltage of 2.1v, so I've tried 1.9 to 2.23 volts) and used relaxed timings and subtimings. I've never increased the CPU PLL volts. I've tried using both of the pairs of memory slots too.

I guess the thing that confuses me the most is that when I do through trial and error obtain bios settings that will post, pass memtest, and boot into windows, I will record them and save them to CMOS. If I come back later to use these same exact settings with the same memory sticks, there is a fair chance I will get a C1 error and the board won't even post. Similarly, there will be instances where I have to clear CMOS and power down three or four times before the same pair of memory sticks will even post at board default speeds (667 or 800mhz depending on the strap I'm using). It is this unpredictable behavior with the same given bios settings at stock or near stock memory speeds that makes me want to impugn the board.

I haven't tinkered too much with GTL REF settings, but I was under the impression that with a dual core at stock cpu and ram speeds, they should be ok on "disabled".

RMA time ?

[OCZ«]

I don't know was this asked and answered before, I can't read the whole topic and haven't actually found any useful info on the google..
What fan fit's the heatsink on the LP ?
As I can judge it looks like 40mm or 60mm is the one, I've measured the space from the holes on the heatsink it's about 55mm
What about an 80mm fan ? looks like an 80mm in on this pic above.
Anyone that have a fan on their LP can you guys tell me how it does the job and the temp. difference ? and of course what size/s can fit.
Tnx

[Beefy22]

Thanks everyone for all of the replies.

I've been able to deal with the code 88 hangs by a hard power down, plus or minus a CMOS clear.

I've tried three different brands of memory that are both memtest and orthos blend stable (even overclocked) in other mobos, so I think the RAM is good. I'm just trying to get PC8500 memory to run at or near stock 1066mhz with this mobo, and it is a real battle. I've tried a range of RAM voltages (I think all 3 brands state a recommended voltage of 2.1v, so I've tried 1.9 to 2.23 volts) and used relaxed timings and subtimings. I've never increased the CPU PLL volts. I've tried using both of the pairs of memory slots too.

I guess the thing that confuses me the most is that when I do through trial and error obtain bios settings that will post, pass memtest, and boot into windows, I will record them and save them to CMOS. If I come back later to use these same exact settings with the same memory sticks, there is a fair chance I will get a C1 error and the board won't even post. Similarly, there will be instances where I have to clear CMOS and power down three or four times before the same pair of memory sticks will even post at board default speeds (667 or 800mhz depending on the strap I'm using). It is this unpredictable behavior with the same given bios settings at stock or near stock memory speeds that makes me want to impugn the board.

I haven't tinkered too much with GTL REF settings, but I was under the impression that with a dual core at stock cpu and ram speeds, they should be ok on "disabled".

RMA time ?

I don't know what to tell you, but I can say that my g.skill 2x1gb HZ 800mhz kit ran flawlessly at 1100mhz 5-5-5-15 on 2.2 vDIMM... GTL ref settings are stock too.

Have you tried just using a single stick in different dimm slots? Perhaps one or even multiple dimm slots are damaged?

-Different subject-

When I boot from a cold start my mobo powers up for a few seconds then powers down and boots up normally a second or two later. Is this common?