Phenom doesn't support DDR2-1066?

[informal]

I feel your pain KTE(about the MSI forum).I was in the same place 1 year ago,looking support for one MSI Neo board.They not only showed rude behaviour for simple disagreeing ,but banned me and a few other posters.I had the link for the thread,but i lost it after last format of my drive.All in all,that Bas dude is prime example of person who shouldn't be an admin.But he is,and that's too bad.In his eyes,it just can't be MSI's fault,just no way(even tho it is 100% their fault).

[Brother Esau]

And this is exactly why I will NOT purchase MSI boards Bass and crew are total A$$HOLES and MSI Support is a Total Joke!

[KTE]

That one guy does not represent MSI, he is just another geek.
Most of the other guys on the board who replied were decent. Most of them agreed with me in knowing who knows what he's talking about and who not.
Such a person is a useless setback for AMD and MSI though.

dehx: If you use same coloured slots on MSI Platinum you get single channel RAM but still no 1:2.66 divider support. Like Cooper said, it will just not boot. I need to find SPD programmed DDR2-1066. They say that's fully supported.

SO:

DDR2-1066 which is SPD programmed for 533MHz will run on the board (stock HT ref) at DDR2-1066.
DDR2-1066 which is not SPD programmed for 533MHz will not run on the board (stock HT ref) at DDR2-1066 yet.

Thanks.

[Brother Esau]

They are a bunch of jerks on that forum and my dealings with MSI = they don't give a rats ass!

[Dr.FuzzyBallz]

could some one tell me what exactly is DDR2-1066?

[Aussie FX]

The guy nicked Bas (admin) there sent me a PM full of personal abuse out of the blue when we proved him wrong here in this thread and after he abused posters here he banned me. First time I've been banned but I don't care becaue he's a "Chief moron" as he perfectly recognized himself.

That was priceless KTE.

If I were you, I would wear that ban with pride.

I must admit there's no way I could have kept my cool with that self named moron.

I don't think I would buy MSI now after seeing that.

[KTE]

could some one tell me what exactly is DDR2-1066?

DDR2 RAM rated to run 533MHz (doube data rate at 1066). See link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM

That was priceless KTE.

If I were you, I would wear that ban with pride.

I must admit there's no way I could have kept my cool with that self named moron.

I don't think I would buy MSI now after seeing that.

I find it .. stupidly amusing TBH.

BUT... despite MSI having no BIOS support for this RAMs rated speed... we might be making some progress to get it to run through "other" ways.

[dehx]

They are a bunch of jerks on that forum and my dealings with MSI = they don't give a rats ass!

hehe, there is some hate for MSI coming out of the woodwork here.

That one guy does not represent MSI, he is just another geek.
Most of the other guys on the board who replied were decent. Most of them agreed with me in knowing who knows what he's talking about and who not.
Such a person is a useless setback for AMD and MSI though.

dehx: If you use same coloured slots on MSI Platinum you get single channel RAM but still no 1:2.66 divider support. Like Cooper said, it will just not boot. I need to find SPD programmed DDR2-1066. They say that's fully supported.

SO:

DDR2-1066 which is SPD programmed for 533MHz will run on the board (stock HT ref) at DDR2-1066.
DDR2-1066 which is not SPD programmed for 533MHz will not run on the board (stock HT ref) at DDR2-1066 yet.

Thanks.

Yeah, I see what you are saying. It may be with just the Gigabyte 790FX boards that the colored slots are mis matched. And yes, my 1066 SLi Ready 2 GB Kit does have 533Mhz EPP SPD.

[KTE]

It's not just that guy.
I only resorted to the forum because MSI UK transferred me to MSI technical support (tw) and they deleted my first query about Phenom when I asked why DDR2-1066 does not work.
I opened one again a weeka after and they deleted it again, no reply.

That is daft and just silly. This is the sad thing about technology. They couldn't have done that had I been standing right infront of them... or

[Brother Esau]

@KTE............I see you had a nice and pleasant encounter with the Chief Moron Administrator Billy The Bass

[KTE]

Some of MSI workers (TW) are ace people though. They really do slip you BETA BIOSs and news through at big personal risks.

[Brother Esau]

Why don't you do you're self a favor and step it up a few notches and get the DFI 790FX-M2R?

[KTE]

I did do bro, I mentioned it here earlier. I could've picked it up a few days ago but it was failing bootup with Phenom installed and I only had 45 minutes to decide whether to take it or not. I chose to leave it (I'd have to drop MSI board off if I took it). After 45mins of messing it still had not booted up with Phenom and yet worked fine with X2.

[Brother Esau]

This is my second one as it seems to be a running pattern with me and D.F.I Boards that the Second one is always the charm Don't have a clue as to why its just been that way since NF4

Besides the 6400+ BE are about the same as the Phenom they don't O.C worth sh**t!

[KTE]

If things are better later and a higher multi Phenom is released (12x+) then I'll give the DFI another try.
I like the design of the board quite a bit and their BIOSes are usually fun to play with.

Does yours run DDR2-1066 with Phenom that you know of?

[Brother Esau]

Sorry KTE but I am a starving white man and no sponsorship yet Maybe some day so for now I opted to focus in on the Power end of the Platform and spend the money on 2 3850 in XFIRE for review instead of Phenom which is riddled with issues until maybe B3 rev so I wanted to focus on strong points of new Platform and show how well cross fire scaled and gotta admit its kick ass and you will be quite impressed with the numbers when I post my Review

[KTE]

Looking forward to it.

You never know I might be able to get some similar cards to test.

Just the PSU is a problem.

[Tony]

Guys

I can show you how to do a 1066spd, thats dead easy, the issue is the hex value to change to.

in EPP 1066 is 1E, im sure someone mentioned to me that 790fx bios needs to see 17....but this does not = 1066

So Sami...if you have time just drop me a line quoting which value is needed and I will help the guys out here and do up a test 1066spd for them to play with on their D9 modules

[saaya]

I am not going to hate on MSI for this one mod and crikey, that is lame. Unfortunately, that is a user to user forum so you aren't speaking with folks who work for MSI.

i doubt thats true, hes the admin of the msi support forum, im sure hes working for msi. and if he doesnt then its just as lame, how can msi let their official support forum be run by such a rude, customer unfriendly and unprofessional guy

[KTE]

Well.. well.. all those claims without evidence, to blame the RAM or AMD Phenom and not the board, EVER > did anyone think I wouldn't test the hollow claims?

It's one thing to say "let's try this and that to see where the problem lies" and another to say "it's DEFINITELY NOT our board!! You are wrong! It is everything else but our board!! You all know NOTHING!!
Typical.

SPD before:


SPD after:



MSI Read: NO boot with RAM divider 1:2.66, NO boot at DDR2-1066 SPD info, Auto boot is 800MHz again, NO boot with higher volts/latencies at 1066!

And this is RAM that I can bootup at 533MHz 5-5-5-15 at 1.8V on other boards.

[dehx]

Well.. well.. all those claims without evidence, to blame the RAM or AMD Phenom and not the board, EVER > did anyone think I wouldn't test the hollow claims?

It's one thing to say "let's try this and that to see where the problem lies" and another to say "it's DEFINITELY NOT our board!! You are wrong! It is everything else but our board!! You all know NOTHING!!
Typical.

SPD before:


SPD after:



MSI Read: NO boot with RAM divider 1:2.66, NO boot at DDR2-1066 SPD info, Auto boot is 800MHz again, NO boot with higher volts/latencies at 1066!

And this is RAM that I can bootup at 533MHz 5-5-5-15 at 1.8V on other boards.

Hot dog for you.


Anyone have an issue with CPUZ not showing anything on the "MEMORY" tab?

My mem tab is blank w/ version 1.42

[justapost]

Hmm, reading the K10 Dev Manual i found that register F3xE8 stores the max supported DRAM data rate in bits 7:5.

DdrMaxRate. Specifies the maximum DRAM data rate that the processor is designed to support.

So i opened wpcredit walked to Dev#24 Func#3 and inspected those bits.
They are set to 100b here.

The mapping is as following:

000b unlimited
001b 1600 MT/s
010b 1333 MT/s
011b 1067 MT/s
100b 800 MT/s
101b 667 MT/s
110b 533 MT/s
111b 400 MT/s

So my 9500 is max capable of DDR2-800 ram, according to this.

[KTE]

justapost: That looks like very good work.

Can you link me or tell me the complete name of the manual?