ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[chuckbam]

Intel Matrix Storage Manager 7.8.0.1012 11/9/2007 is up.

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BIOS 1223 released 13 Nov 2007 -> P5BD1223.ZIP

[chuckbam]

BIOS 1223 released 13 Nov 2007 -> P5BD1223.ZIP

Wow, one after another. Thanks !

Flash, all is good. I will be interested what is the change. I thought maybe they would make the Vcore setting more accurate. I have a setting of 1.4375 and I am getting 1.38 ~ 1.39. It reports that both in the bios and every utility I use. But, they probably just read the bios. My thermal is in the low 30s c.

I don't have the Wi- Fi. Should I disable that in the bios? I have an unknown USB device in the Device Manager.

I have had 167 posts forever.



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[Gingernut]

BIOS 1223 Dated 11/08/07, released 11/13/2007 (Status Unknown, consider it to be a Beta for now)

Change Log:

1. Fix FSB speed issue after adjusting CPU ratio.

[jonny_ftm]

1223 can't handle my overclock (see my signature). I have a reboot on OCCT in RAM mode. Back to 1221 and all is fine

[chuckbam]

1223 can't handle my overclock (see my signature). I have a reboot on OCCT in RAM mode. Back to 1221 and all is fine

That has happened to me before. I has a ASUS 975X MB with a Pentium D running at 4255 MHz. I was stuck on the first release bios.

[t_p]

I have tried every bios since I got this board (I think it came with the august bios) and can't get it stable for anything...

I was given a *used looking* P5B-Deluxe by ASUS as an RMA exchange for my brand new P5B-Deluxe wifi/ap version that went "no post" after about a month. (Nice of them, eh)... It took them 3 weeks to get me the replacement and pretty much ever since I got the P5B-D board, I have been battling against random reboots. I think it might have been stable for week or so, I can't remember. When it started to flip out again, I replaced the PSU, because that was the only thing I hadn't yet upgraded. I didn't want to deal with Asus and another 3 week plus wait without my main system and when I finally broke down and called them they gave me an rma# but said they didn't have any P5B boards in stock to replace mine with, and had "no idea" when they would.

So I have been trying to tweak this board into shape. Every once in a while I will get a bios and configuration that will be stable for a while, then it will become unstable again. I am on 1223 now and after it was stable for a day or so, I started getting crashes again. Often it will lose it's settings for the bios and I have to reset them. I've tried all kinds of configs in the bios. Any ideas? I have been assuming its a mobo problem, because I don't have any gear I can swap out with to troubleshoot anything else...

One thing I haven't done yet is run a memtest to make sure my memory is square.. Seems weird that it would run fine for days and then go bonkers, and then be fine again.... but i do need to rule that out i suppose...

CPU - Core 2 Duo - E6400 - 2.13GHz
Motherboard - ASUS P5B Deluxe
Memory - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
Video Card - SAPPHIRE 194L Radeon X1650
HDD#1 - SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD403LJ 400GB
HDD#2 - Maxtor DM 10 6B200R0 200GB
DVD-RW - SAMSUNG TS-H552B - 16X
PSU - Rosewill RP500-2 ATX12V v2.01 500W
Sound Card - Audigy MP3+
HSF - Freezer 7 Pro
OS - XP Pro SP2

[railer]

I have tried every bios since I got this board (I think it came with the august bios) and can't get it stable for anything...

I was given a *used looking* P5B-Deluxe by ASUS as an RMA exchange for my brand new P5B-Deluxe wifi/ap version that went "no post" after about a month. (Nice of them, eh)... It took them 3 weeks to get me the replacement and pretty much ever since I got the P5B-D board, I have been battling against random reboots. I think it might have been stable for week or so, I can't remember. When it started to flip out again, I replaced the PSU, because that was the only thing I hadn't yet upgraded. I didn't want to deal with Asus and another 3 week plus wait without my main system and when I finally broke down and called them they gave me an rma# but said they didn't have any P5B boards in stock to replace mine with, and had "no idea" when they would.

So I have been trying to tweak this board into shape. Every once in a while I will get a bios and configuration that will be stable for a while, then it will become unstable again. I am on 1223 now and after it was stable for a day or so, I started getting crashes again. Often it will lose it's settings for the bios and I have to reset them. I've tried all kinds of configs in the bios. Any ideas? I have been assuming its a mobo problem, because I don't have any gear I can swap out with to troubleshoot anything else...

One thing I haven't done yet is run a memtest to make sure my memory is square.. Seems weird that it would run fine for days and then go bonkers, and then be fine again.... but i do need to rule that out i suppose...

CPU - Core 2 Duo - E6400 - 2.13GHz
Motherboard - ASUS P5B Deluxe
Memory - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
Video Card - SAPPHIRE 194L Radeon X1650
HDD#1 - SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD403LJ 400GB
HDD#2 - Maxtor DM 10 6B200R0 200GB
DVD-RW - SAMSUNG TS-H552B - 16X
PSU - Rosewill RP500-2 ATX12V v2.01 500W
Sound Card - Audigy MP3+
HSF - Freezer 7 Pro
OS - XP Pro SP2

First do memtest. If you will get errors sometimes it helps to change ram voltage. I have exact same setup as you and after a while my MB started to randomly reboot. What i did is actualy lowered the ram voltage to 2.25 from 2.45 and it helped. Make sure you runing 1:1 for testing stability, my MB is not realy stable with dividers also. And what is your oc?

[chuckbam]

I have tried every bios since I got this board (I think it came with the august bios) and can't get it stable for anything...

I was given a *used looking* P5B-Deluxe by ASUS as an RMA exchange for my brand new P5B-Deluxe wifi/ap version that went "no post" after about a month. (Nice of them, eh)... It took them 3 weeks to get me the replacement and pretty much ever since I got the P5B-D board, I have been battling against random reboots. I think it might have been stable for week or so, I can't remember. When it started to flip out again, I replaced the PSU, because that was the only thing I hadn't yet upgraded. I didn't want to deal with Asus and another 3 week plus wait without my main system and when I finally broke down and called them they gave me an rma# but said they didn't have any P5B boards in stock to replace mine with, and had "no idea" when they would.

So I have been trying to tweak this board into shape. Every once in a while I will get a bios and configuration that will be stable for a while, then it will become unstable again. I am on 1223 now and after it was stable for a day or so, I started getting crashes again. Often it will lose it's settings for the bios and I have to reset them. I've tried all kinds of configs in the bios. Any ideas? I have been assuming its a mobo problem, because I don't have any gear I can swap out with to troubleshoot anything else...

One thing I haven't done yet is run a memtest to make sure my memory is square.. Seems weird that it would run fine for days and then go bonkers, and then be fine again.... but i do need to rule that out i suppose...

CPU - Core 2 Duo - E6400 - 2.13GHz
Motherboard - ASUS P5B Deluxe
Memory - G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800
Video Card - SAPPHIRE 194L Radeon X1650
HDD#1 - SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD403LJ 400GB
HDD#2 - Maxtor DM 10 6B200R0 200GB
DVD-RW - SAMSUNG TS-H552B - 16X
PSU - Rosewill RP500-2 ATX12V v2.01 500W
Sound Card - Audigy MP3+
HSF - Freezer 7 Pro
OS - XP Pro SP2

What are all your Memory settings. This board like specific timings.

[t_p]

Thanks for the suggestions.. I will try the ram testing and see what that tells me..

the most I've tried bumping the speed was to 288 because I dont really know what I am doing yet and i need to first bwe able to get it stable at 266 before I want to push it much.. it was stable at that 288 for a couple days at one point..

as far as the timings, I have mostly been using the auto pilot because I guess I don't know how to set them right given that when I try my own settings I can never get it to boot all the way...

[chuckbam]

shrug

Lets say you have CL4 (CL5 5-up-up-18) DDR2 at timings of 4-4-4-12. Try 4-5-5-12 just for a test. If that does not work, try 4-5-5-18. Next try 4-5-5-18. No good yet, bump the TRFC to the largest number and then work back down once it is stable. Your memory. Your Memory should run fine at maybe 2v or 2.1v.. If you go much higher, you should have RAM cooling.

I am running 4x 2MB modules at 2.0 v

http://www.thetechrepository.com/sho...&highlight=p5b

[t_p]

so far, i tried the following settings and starting getting errors at around 70% through with memtest:

cpu = 266
dram ddr2-800mhz (1:1, right?)
PCI express = auto
PCI clock = 33.33
spread = disabled
mem voltage = 1.85v
cpu vcore = 1.25v
FSB term - auto
nbvcore - auto
sb vcore - auto
ich = auto

timings:
Cas = 5
RAS to CAS = 5
RAS precharge = 5
RAS activate = 15
Write recovery = 6
TRFC = 42

Then tried the following and the system and thus memtest simply froze at 4% through:

cpu = 266
dram ddr2-800mhz (1:1, right?)
PCI express = auto
PCI clock = 33.33
spread = disabled
mem voltage = 1.90v
cpu vcore = 1.30v
FSB term - auto
nbvcore - auto
sb vcore - auto
ich = auto

timings:
Cas = 5
RAS to CAS = 5
RAS precharge = 5
RAS activate = 15
Write recovery = 6
TRFC = 35

Then tried some different timings per chuckbam but no luck and got tired of it all and tried a boot with these settings and then got a random reboot after a while:

cpu = 277
dram ddr2-831mhz
PCI express = auto
PCI clock = 33.33
spread = disabled
mem voltage = 2.0v
cpu vcore = 1.325v
FSB term - auto
nbvcore - auto
sb vcore - auto
ich = auto

timings:
Cas = 5
RAS to CAS = 5
RAS precharge = 5
RAS activate = 18
Write recovery = 6
TRFC = 42

[doakh]

t_p....The only thing I can see in your setup that I would change is 'PCI Express Frequency' to 100 instead of auto if you are running your cpu at or near your default FSB. I do not recall anyone leaving it on auto. You only need to tweak this if you oc ~ 33% or more.

ASUS P5B Deluxe (1216) 24/7 folding
E6600 at 3.2 Ghz
4x1GB G.Skill 6400 HZ (4:5) 898 Mhz 4-4-4-12
Sapphire X1950 Pro
PCI Express Frequency: 101
vCore: 1.32
vMem: 2.10
vNB: 1.45
vSB: 1.60

[t_p]

following settings got me a blue screen after a couple minutes at my desktop:

cpu = 277
dram ddr2-831mhz
PCI express = 100
PCI clock = 33.33
spread = disabled
mem voltage = 1.95v
cpu vcore = 1.30v
FSB term - 1.3v
nbvcore - auto
sb vcore - auto
ich = auto

timings:
Cas = 5
RAS to CAS = 5
RAS precharge = 5
RAS activate = 18
Write recovery = 6
TRFC = 42

following settings locked me up after a while:

cpu = 277
dram ddr2-831mhz
PCI express = 100
PCI clock = 33.33
spread = disabled
mem voltage = 1.90v
cpu vcore = 1.2875v
FSB term - auto
nbvcore - auto
sb vcore - auto
ich = auto

timings:
Cas = 5
RAS to CAS = 5
RAS precharge = 5
RAS activate = 18
Write recovery = 6
TRFC = 42

am i crazy to think that at some point, if there wasn't a problem with the board or the memory, or their taking a liking to each other, that I would stumble across some situation where they'd settle down?

[Zucker2k]

so far, i tried the following settings and starting getting errors at around 70% through with memtest:

cpu = 266
dram ddr2-800mhz (1:1, right?)

DDR2 800 is NOT 1:1

DDR2 533 IS 1:1

Set memory to 533. leave everything at AUTO. Set RAM in the NB menu to AUTO. LEAVE everything at default.

Raise FSB to 300. Save, Reboot. See what happens.

What RAM and CPU are you using? Most any Intel CPU will handle 300 FSB EASY!!!! Try it.

[t_p]

thanks Zucker.. Will try that, though I am losing hope...

I just tried these settings for my memory based on this thread and got two system lockups in a row...

F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ ---DDR2 800 5-5-5-15 1.9V BIOS SETTING
http://www.gskillusa.com/motherboard..._2gbnq_001.jpg
http://www.gskillusa.com/motherboard..._2gbnq_002.jpg
use 1.9v 5-5-5-15-4-42-3-11-7-13

I matched his screenshots, though his settings below that don't match the screenshots (the "-3-11-7-13" part), unless I don't know what he is referring to.

edit.. nevermind.. tried it with the "-3-11-7-13" too and got booted after a couple minutes..

[t_p]

DDR2 800 is NOT 1:1

DDR2 533 IS 1:1

Set memory to 533. leave everything at AUTO. Set RAM in the NB menu to AUTO. LEAVE everything at default.

Raise FSB to 300. Save, Reboot. See what happens.

What RAM and CPU are you using? Most any Intel CPU will handle 300 FSB EASY!!!! Try it.

CPU = Core 2 E6400
Ram = G.SKILL 2GB 6400 2GBNQ

If I set FSB to 300 then memory gets bumped to 600 automatically.. And when you say leave everything at default, are you referring to the CPU settings too? (Ratio,C1E, etc)

BTW, tried it like this.. system locked up before fully loading desktop...

[Zucker2k]

CPU = Core 2 E6400
Ram = G.SKILL 2GB 6400 2GBNQ

If I set FSB to 300 then memory gets bumped to 600 automatically.. And when you say leave everything at default, are you referring to the CPU settings too? (Ratio,C1E, etc)

BTW, tried it like this.. system locked up before fully loading desktop...

EVERYTHING.

[Zucker2k]

Raise NB to 1.45

[t_p]

Raise NB to 1.45

no worky.. thanks though...

reading through the gskill thread, looks like i got the value ram version (that doesn't seem to have much value..) wish i would have paid closer attention at the time... got nothing but good reports at newegg though from what I recall...

[jonny_ftm]

Hi,
I have the system in my signature.
I can't get one more MHz out of my CPU without getting OCCT in RAM mode failing. I noticed the NB strap was at 400MHz, but even 401-406MHz FSB give me OCCT RAM errors. The CPU should do it, I even gave it some 1.6v shock to be sure. 407MHz FSB and above, my system will reboot on Vista loading, even at a 6x or 8x CPU multiplier or 2.3v RAM. Of course I even maxed the NB and FSB voltages.

This same scenario was with my previous Q6600 B3, exactly same FSB limits at the 1 MHz precision, but it needed more vcore compared to my G0.

I also tried many bioses. 0910, 1216 and 1221 seems to be the most stable (other revisions won't sustain my current OC under OCCT RAM)

The last trial was this:


Yep, I flashed the P5B Premium Vista Edition bios on my P5B deluxe using AFUDOS older versions. I saw someone else did it before. Well, it didn't give me one MHz more out of my FSB

Using two sticks of DDR2 didn't change anything. I also just ordered some Kingston PC2-9600 2x1Gb that will arrive next week.

Do you think I reached the FSB limit of my P5B deluxe with quadcore processors? Or maybe got a bad overclocker on my P5B deluxe?

[allany]

Hi,

Is it possible to install ATI HD 3850 GDDR3 or ATI HD3870 GDDR4
on ASUS P5B-Deluxe?


Best regards

Allany

[chuckbam]

Hi,

Is it possible to install ATI HD 3850 GDDR3 or ATI HD3870 GDDR4
on ASUS P5B-Deluxe?


Best regards

Allany

I was reading that there is lockups with the P35. I am sure they will work that out with drivers. The P965 is supported.

I am going to get the 8350 when a 512MB and the custom cooler is available.

http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=a...ge4&arc_id=137

[chuckbam]

Hi,

Is it possible to install ATI HD 3850 GDDR3 or ATI HD3870 GDDR4
on ASUS P5B-Deluxe?


Best regards

Allany

ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 Series – System Requirements

PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
450 Watt or greater power supply with 75 Watt 6-pin PCI Express® power connector recommended (550 Watt and two 6-pin connectors for dual ATI CrossFireX™)
Certified power supplies are recommended
1GB of system memory
Installation software requires an optical drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Blu-ray™ / HD DVD playback requires a Blu-ray / HD DVD drive
For a complete ATI CrossFireX™ system, additional ATI Radeon™ HD 3800 series graphics card(s), an ATI CrossFireX Ready motherboard and one ATI CrossFireX Bridge Interconnect cable per board (included) are required


http://ati.amd.com/products/Radeonhd...uirements.html

[chuckbam]

CPU = Core 2 E6400
Ram = G.SKILL 2GB 6400 2GBNQ

If I set FSB to 300 then memory gets bumped to 600 automatically.. And when you say leave everything at default, are you referring to the CPU settings too? (Ratio,C1E, etc)

BTW, tried it like this.. system locked up before fully loading desktop...

Have you tested one stick at a time? you could have a bad stick. I purched 2 sets of what I have now and had one bad stick.