The LCD Buyers Guide

[Knight]

Anyone have experience with the Sceptre brand? I was looking at their 20/20.1 inch LCD screens, and they seem good on paper.

I would like to know if you think it is ok to get this screen over the Samsung.

Sceptre (Two that seem the same to me, but with different names)
http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/...20wg_1080p.htm
or
http://www.sceptre.com/products/lcd/...x20wg_Naga.htm

Samsung
http://www.samsung.com/Products/Moni...0MEWSFVXAA.asp


The Samsung will cost me $70 more.

[adamsleath]

well ; as you say it looks good on paper...i have no idea whose panels sceptre uses for that particular model.

..it is a panel lottery if you cannot compare the panels visually side by side in a shop imo.

google for reviews and see what you find on the sceptre naga i s'pose

[Knight]

well ; as you say it looks good on paper...i have no idea whose panels sceptre uses for that particular model.

..it is a panel lottery if you cannot compare the panels visually side by side in a shop imo.

google for reviews and see what you find on the sceptre naga i s'pose

I could only find Samsung reviews, and they were great. I will find the thread which had a member review a Sceptre screen.

[adamsleath]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

this is quite a good thread at anandtech.

[SkItZo]

Anyone know what the benQ FP241W LCD's are like?

(Also, you might want to look at buying in from the US Adamsleath, i've found that 9 times out of 10 its cheaper than buying in Australia.)

[p360stick]

what do I need to have a dual monitor? like what kind of cables, gpu.

what kind of resolution do I need on each monitor like do I have a limit on the resolution? like two 1600 by 1200?

also im thinking on getting a 30' inch lcd or a dual display?

[Soulburner]

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

this is quite a good thread at anandtech.

That worries me that not a single one of the Dell monitors are on that list.

I thought the 2407 was supposed to be really good for the price. You can get it for $569 right now which is pretty tempting, and it is not recommended at all on that list? I don't want to fork out the money for the BenQ because items like this depreciate too fast. I can save the $100 or so and be better off in a year or two when I move on to the next one, and the difference between the Dell 2407WWP and BenQ FP241W likely isn't huge anyway.

What I would really like is an AS-IPS panel, but they are so expensive that $600 only buys you 20 inches. That isn't enough for me, I need a 24" 1920x1200 screen for photo editing with gaming on the side. Then again that BenQ is down to $669 at Newegg putting it within Dell territory (when they aren't running specials). Some people spend that kind of money on a video card and upgrade every generation...doesn't make it seem so bad then.

[KoHaN69]

what do I need to have a dual monitor? like what kind of cables, gpu.

what kind of resolution do I need on each monitor like do I have a limit on the resolution? like two 1600 by 1200?

also im thinking on getting a 30' inch lcd or a dual display?

anything x800/gf6000 and later with dual-dvi ports would do it

[Soulburner]

According to that LCD Thread, the 20.1"w: NEC MultiSync 20WMGX2 is the best all-around monitor. It sports an AS-IPS panel, gives you great speed and color at the same time, and a wide viewing angle. Its too bad that the $600 price tag only buys you 20 inches. It seems for those of us that want/need a 24" 1920x1200 display the BenQ FP241W might still be the best there is, aside from Eizo.

There are also a couple variations of the BenQ 24 incher now. One of them is reviewed here:

FP241VW

http://www.3dgameman.com/content/view/8277/103/

[adamsleath]

...until i hear anything bad about it i think this dell one is also a contender...:

Dell 2407WFP-HC 6ms G2G 24"WS Samsung S-PVA (LTM240M2) "rev A04"

but note: NOT original wfp A00 or A01 rev's.

http://www.bexox.com/showdown.htm - a comparison of dell 2407wfp-hc & benq24" & lg24"

this article also mentions lg l246wp.

the article rated Benq FP241WZ the highest for PC & Video use.


i think the dell is a little cheaper than the Benq if money is a concern...and they are very close in quality it seems....but Benq has the edge.


Benq 24": $1100aud
Dell 24": $1000-1100aud

well; i'd take the Benq based on those prices. (glad to have gotten to the bottom of that one )


Now it's a toss up between NEC 20wgx2 (20") and BenqFP241W (24") most wood take the Benq i think.

[Soulburner]

BenQ FP241W Reviews:

Bit-Tech
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/200.../Benq_FP241W/1

HardForum Thread (180 pages)
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1066372

Trusted Reviews
http://www.trustedreviews.com/displa...een-Monitor/p1

CNET
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/monitors/0...9285404,00.htm

[adamsleath]

BenQ FP241W
BenQ FP241W 6ms G2G 24"WS AU Optronics P-MVA (M240UW01 V0)

...trusted reviews: 10/10 in all four categories...looks good
...and 1080p HDCP

Games and Video ..yum yum.

Looking at the rear of the FP241W reveals the feature that makes this monitor stand out from the crowd of other 24in widescreen displays – an HDMI port. Not only is there an HDMI port, but it’s an HDCP compliant HDMI port, so you’ll have no problem hooking up a Blu-ray or HD DVD player, or like I did, a Sky HD box.

also a decently robust looking adjustable stand.

Put simply, if you’re after a 24in widescreen monitor, this is the one to buy

i have to agree; unless you want to pay more than double the price for a NEC S-IPS type 24" screen, this is the one.

[Soulburner]

What's the deal with this cheapie 24"...new brand?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824185004

http://www.fatwallet.com/t/18/734358

[Soulburner]

24" Monitor Showdown

BenQ FP241WZ vs. Dell 2407WFP-A04 vs. LG L246WP

http://www.bexox.com/showdown.htm

Took me a bit of searching to find that one.

[KoHaN69]

24" Monitor Showdown

BenQ FP241WZ vs. Dell 2407WFP-A04 vs. LG L246WP

http://www.bexox.com/showdown.htm

Took me a bit of searching to find that one.

Nice find! Huge props to the guy for testing dreamcast VGA

[swiharta]

The 226BW is a popular Samsung 22" widescreen gaming LCD with a rated response time of 2ms. Some people are afraid to buy it now that the "S" panel made by Samsung has been replaced largely with the "C" panel, made by Chi Mei, and the "A" panel by AUO.

For those out their concerned about the quality of the "C" or "A" versions of the 226BW, I have posted a review of the "C" with custom ICC color profiles included to dramatically improve the bad color that it comes with. Behardware did the same with the "A" version.

Bottomline: the gaming performance between all panels is virtually the same, and the color of the non-"S" panels can be fixed very effectively with a custom ICC profile. If you're on the fence I would highly recommend this monitor, now less than $300 at NewEgg.

[adamsleath]

...until i hear anything bad about it i think this dell one is also a contender...:

Dell 2407WFP-HC 6ms G2G 24"WS Samsung S-PVA (LTM240M2) "rev A04"

but note: NOT original wfp A00 or A01 rev's.

http://www.bexox.com/showdown.htm - a comparison of dell 2407wfp-hc & benq24" & lg24"

this article also mentions lg l246wp.

the article rated Benq FP241WZ the highest for PC & Video use.


i think the dell is a little cheaper than the Benq if money is a concern...and they are very close in quality it seems....but Benq has the edge.


Benq 24": $1100aud
Dell 24": $1000-1100aud

well; i'd take the Benq based on those prices. (glad to have gotten to the bottom of that one )


Now it's a toss up between NEC 20wgx2 (20") and BenqFP241W (24") most wood take the Benq i think.

i had already posted that link

[Soulburner]

I must have passed right over it...anyway as far as that BenQ goes, just get the one without the Z. It is a lot cheaper, $669 US right now and the AMA-Z most people end up not liking. Read my comments in "24" LCD's faster than 60Hz - When"? - to see what I think the improvements need to be to really make that work.

[adamsleath]

we are searching for the same thing...a better lcd than is already available...imo.

[mutambo]

Please suggest a
BEST 19" monitor < $250 to watch movies,programming,little home video editing.

[KoHaN69]

Please suggest a
BEST 19" monitor < $250 to watch movies,programming,little home video editing.

widescreen 19" ?

[adamsleath]

first; the ultimate in quality and all round performance seems to be the NEC 20" wgx2 - it is widescreen AS-IPS type and is much recommended.


i have seen a 19" ws...just have to find it again...im sure there arent many.

on the other hand look at this list:
as for recommending; i can't recommend any of them as i have never used them
i would pick a 5ms or less panel and start looking at reviews.

these are all TN type:

...BenQ FP94VW 2ms G2G 19"WS AU Optronics TN Film (M190PW01 V0)


NEC AccuSync LCD193WXM 5ms 19"WS TN Film

NEC LCD193WM 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Xerox XR6-19DW 8ms 19"WS TN Film

[Samsung 940BX 5ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX) - a much recommended panel...not wide screen]

Samsung SM931BW 2ms G2G 19"WS Samsung TN Film

Samsung 906BW 2ms G2G 19"WS TN Film - recent/current model.

Westinghouse LCM-19w4 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

HP w19 8ms 19"WS TN Film

BenQ FP92Wa 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Iiyama ProLite E1900WS-B1 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Neovo K-A19 3ms 19"WS TN Film

AOC 193SW 8ms 19"WS TN Film

ViewSonic VG1930wm 5ms 19"WS TN Film

V7 R19W11 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Asus VW192S 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Asus VW192G 5ms 19"WS TN Film

ViewSonic VX1945wm 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Sceptre X9WG-NagaV 8ms 19"WS TN Film
Sceptre X9WG-NagaV (ver 1) 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Acer AL1916ws 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

Videoseven L19WA 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

ViewSonic VA1912W 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

Xerox XM3-19w 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

Iiyama ProLite EW1900S-S 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Iiyama ProLite EW1900S-B 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Iiyama ProLite EW1901S-S 5ms 19"WS TN Film
Iiyama ProLite EW1901S-B 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Packard Bell Maestro 19 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

GNR TS902W 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

BenQ FP92W 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Advent X19TV 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

Videoseven L19WD 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Yakumo 19WJT 5ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1-L02)

Belinea 1925S1W 5ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1-L02)

BenQ FP93VW 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Daewoo W9ZQ 5ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1-L02)

Hyundai N91W 5ms 19"WS Samsung TN Film (LTM190M2)

LG L194WT 5ms 19"WS TN Film

Mirai DML-319W100 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

Mirai DML-519W100 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

ViewSonic VA1912w-2 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)

Hyundai X91W 8ms 19"WS Chi Mei Optoelectronics TN Film (M190A1)


lol; there seem to have a been a few...

[adamsleath]

Supposedly a good panel...non widescreen.

Samsung 930BF 4ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L21)
Samsung 913B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 913N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 915N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 920N 8ms 19" TN Film (LTM190EX)
Samsung 930B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 940B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 940N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 950B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)
BenQ FP937s+ 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Fujitsu-Siemens T19-2 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Hyundai B90A 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Hyundai L90D+ 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Iiyama E480S-B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Iiyama E480S-S 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Iiyama E481S 8ms or 25ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01) or LG.Philips S-IPS (LM190E01-C4)
Hyundai B91D 4ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L21)
Samsung 901N 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
Samsung 901B 8ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX-L01)
NEC MultiSync 90GX2 Pro 2ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)
Samsung 940BX 5ms G2G 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)
Samsung SM932B 5ms 19" Samsung TN Film (LTM190EX)

[mutambo]

Trying to find

19" or 20"
Wide or regular
<=$200
3-warranty
To watch movies,home video editing,programming,little aesthetic

[adamsleath]

chimei is a cheap brand.