The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

[akbnkb]

hi guys, what will happin if i use c&q when overclocked? i mean i like it overclocked when runing games and apps but i dont like to turn off my computer ether to save on my power bill.. well to speak of why wont q&c work at all when over clocked? im running bios 1.c . im running a 3000 plus venice e3 stepping and i can run it 9 X 295 but my mem has to be under 235 and at 2t.i was going for 2.9 but this is fine i guess. Thanks for any input

[Zeus...]

hi guys, what will happin if i use c&q when overclocked? i mean i like it overclocked when runing games and apps but i dont like to turn off my computer ether to save on my power bill.. well to speak of why wont q&c work at all when over clocked? im running bios 1.c . im running a 3000 plus venice e3 stepping and i can run it 9 X 295 but my mem has to be under 235 and at 2t.i was going for 2.9 but this is fine i guess. Thanks for any input

Funny u should ask as late last night I got my old MSI neo2 back up and running with a venice and I wonted the same as u as my main rig (see sig) I have 'CnQ' working a treat when overclocked using 'Crystalcpuid' and it works a real treat. declocking to CPU to a CPU multi of x4 with 1.0Vcpu and having a max of x11 1.45Vcpu and also a min setting too. keeps it cool when browsing and fires to life as soon as its needed.

so I treid to gwt it to work on the Neo2 and venice last night - but the AMD driver to allow CnQ doesnt work with the venice needs an opteron. I treid it and it locked up the system when crystalcpuid mulipler managment system was enabled and 'when I took off the AMD CnQ driver and then tried the crystalcpuid mulipler managment system I got a BSOD.

So options r as far as I can see are

1. upgrade to an opty
2. tuff

I would be interested if anyone else has an opty on this mobo and has some sort of CnQ working with an overclock as I might consider selling this Venice and getting an opty because the CnQ works so well on my main rig.

If u do have an opty and wish to try it - install the AMD driver for QnQ here

and CystalCpuid is here install the amd driver first but dont enable CnQ in the Bios then install CystalCPUID . I installed it to a directry in program files which I made and called it crystallCPUID and then plaed a shortcut in the startup dir modifing the command line option from "C:\CrystalCPUID\CrystalCPUID.exe" to "C:\CrystalCPUID\CrystalCPUID.exe" /CQ /HIDE as it shows here
both bits of software r easy to instal and easy to remove so go on give that opty and try and let it cool between frags, u stand nothing to lose.

U can even set it to lock out on the MIn/mid and max muli on the fly by just click on an ion in the system tray. I have my opty to boot at a lower multi and volts and when it gets into windows cystalcpuid takes over and still gives u the full CPU muli range of the chip.

If anyone has CnQ working on an Venice I would be greatful myself to here about it

'Summer is a coming'

[Max Tractor]

Thanx for the input guys
Slots 1+2
I am running 1T 166 divider=208 2.75V-2.5-3-3-7 4xHT, uptime folding of 5 days 17 hours fully stable

Tighter timings 2-3-3-6 result in a slower pi time, strange.lol

This board has quite a few quirks, I reckon the cpu has loads more in it, but not in this board

[cooptroop4]

I can't get C & Q to work on my board, after installing everything its a no go.
coop

[adamwinn]

I've been wondering why no one ever posts this link:

http://www.swjka.com/neo2/index.php

Its where Sideeffect posts his bios directly. You'll get them there (including 1.D) long before you'll get them elsewhere.

[sideeffect]

A 1.D beta 2 bios was released but with no changelog and nothing appears new in the bios. I dont think ill bother making a mod of it. 1.D proved less stable for me than 1.C as well. Im using 1.C3.

Havnt been modding neo 2 as much because im building a server Tyan Thunder K8SRE (nforce profesional)

[adamwinn]

Sideeffect, the 1.C no-temp is amazing. Its the FIRST revision I've ever used that has been stable on my system for more than 24 hours. I've been primeing for 72 hours straight now without a hickup at -12C on my A64.

I think my 6800gt likes the 1.C more than anything.

[sideeffect]

Yes I agree 1.C is the best so far for me as well. I also have a 6800 GT which would sometimes act strangely with certain bios revisions.

[magica]

If anyone has CnQ working on an Venice I would be greatful myself to here about it

'Summer is a coming'

Well I have the AMD cpu driver loaded and I have the new core center installed. I have c& q turned OFF in the bios.


When Im in core center I can click on cool and quite and it works just fine. Clicks off too no problem. Im not really interested in useing it and just checked it a couple weeks ago for the hell of it.

My only question is why does it work without turning it on in the bios or maybe that is the auto way for it to run and I didnt know it ..... I dont know . I have a 3200 venice and it works for me through core center.

I have never tried anything about this with the bios option turned on .

[adamwinn]

I think CoreCenter will let you turn it on regardless of the bios' setting is because the bios doesn't lock it once it sets it.

Doesn't seem any different from the way we can OC with CoreCenter

[cooptroop4]

How do you know its working, I turn mine on and nothing seems to change at all?
thks
coop

[kbtat2]

^ I wondered the same thing.^

[kbtat2]

I have a noob question, what does "Cpu startup vid" mean in the bios?
I have mine set to 1.475. I thought it meant that 1.475 was the startup vcore and then you add to that by adjusting the % setting after that. Is that right?
The main reason I'm asking this is because I'm trying to increase my vcore and the % setting isn't raising my vcore according to CPUZ.
I then tried to increase the above mentioned Startup vid and couldn't boot into windows.

[akbnkb]

If its not working check right click desktop, click screen saver goto power on the first tab in power schemes in the first pull down menu select minimal power managment and it will work unless you are running somthing like a folding app or somthing.it also works over clocked as well......i did my reading on it after posting my question on how to get it to work..hope it helps, also to verifiy its working core center will tell you what it has set the multiplyer to and fsb, Avery

[akbnkb]

hey can anyone tell me how to get my sig side by side insted of top and bottom? Thanks, Avery

[adamwinn]

Use an html table?

[cooptroop4]

I can't get my C & Q too work left it running all night with core up and found the cpu still at 2750mhz did the settings in screen saver and also the bios. I'm using the sideefect 1c. any ideas.
thks
coop

[Zeus...]

Ok got CnQ working

download 'AMD Athlon™ 64 Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (exe) 1.2.2.' from here eighth one down.

run the install program from AMD and reboot(if u run it a second time after reboot the install program takes the AMD CnQ driver off)

on reboot press 'DEL' enter bios and enable 'CnQ' in bios - think it was in the cell menu

save and exit

and as soon as the core center starts up ( and assuming u have 'CnQ' enable in the core center it works

if u havent got it enabled in the core center - click on where it says 'core center' on the core center as enable it.

works a treat but haven't treid it with overclocked settings - or setting any Vcpu changes still have this system @STD and auto for Vcpu and mutlipler settings

Will try again with 'CrystalCPUID' later and see if that works now that 'CnQ' is working. SO far when I have tried it the system has just locked up. but sons fragging on the system ATM so will try later.

[cooptroop4]

cpu stays the same, I'm overclocking, that met be why it doesn't work, I will try at default settings later.
thks
coop

[blade148]

hi ya,
having some real problems trying to get my nv lan to work, and hopefully get the graphics card on it's own IRQ.


i can't get the nv lan to work. does detect it in windows, but won't re new the ip.

in the bios, the mac address is disabled, and when i set it to enabled and exit, the screen hangs for a couple of secs, then reboots ... but still with it disabled.

windows has a mac address asigned to it.
starts with fb-ff-ff ( not sure i should post the whole mac address on the interenet. ? )

i try to manually put in the same mac address in thte bois. but again it just hangs.




atm i'm using the realtek lan. and it shares the same IRQ, as my 6800GT.

any ideas people ..? ?

thanks .

[kbtat2]

To Blade148, Mine did the same thing and I goofed up some of my settings while trying to OC and decided to reflash my bios and when I did it started working on it's own.
I leave the NV Lan setting on auto.
I have done so many adjustments that I can't really recall exactly what made it work but I think it was the reflash of the bios that did it for me.
Couldn't hurt to try.

[akbnkb]

coop i dont think seting to stock will do the trick.....im not sure why its not working for you.i also have that bios. mine is oced as well not that high right now but my q & c is working..what cpu r u using? im runing a venice 3000+ e3 stepping. also r u using any apps that might be using to much of ur cpu?
Avery

[cooptroop4]

I have the opr 148 cpu, haven't tryed the stock setting yet,
thks
coop

[akbnkb]

oh, i know nothin about optys...but i thought they had a diferent driver than regular a64s..sorry i dont think i can be of any help, Avery

[sinister1st]

hi ya,
having some real problems trying to get my nv lan to work, and hopefully get the graphics card on it's own IRQ.


i can't get the nv lan to work. does detect it in windows, but won't re new the ip.

in the bios, the mac address is disabled, and when i set it to enabled and exit, the screen hangs for a couple of secs, then reboots ... but still with it disabled.

windows has a mac address asigned to it.
starts with fb-ff-ff ( not sure i should post the whole mac address on the interenet. ? )

i try to manually put in the same mac address in thte bois. but again it just hangs.




atm i'm using the realtek lan. and it shares the same IRQ, as my 6800GT.

any ideas people ..? ?

thanks .

Maybe this might help

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...03#post1109203