FX-60 w/ LS

[Coroner Kyle]

Hey I picked up a FX60 yesterday (CCB2E 0548RPMW), I got my LS a few days before. So, far I have gotten up to 3.2 dual prime stable. I've gotten 1M stable pi at 3555, but still working with stability issues. I've booted into Windows at 3.6, but after that I cannot.

I'd say this cpu is not crazy about the cold (nothing too extreme), but it gets hot quick and my LS is getting into the positives easily usually 4-6C. I know this thing can do more, but I will have to get my temps right. I get the feeling I need to initially boot up warm and then start getting my temps down because I can really lower voltages after I have gotten my temps up which makes me wonder what I could do if I could just keep my temps down w/ higher voltages.

Oh, if anyone has got Ballistix 2x1gb kit let me know what settings you are running w/ because it seems like I cannot get them stable over 250, but maybe it's a memory controller issue.

I have not had much time to play with it so hopefully I can get some more out it.

[dogsx2]

pictures??? Sounds like you got a good one.

[s7e9h3n]

......I get the feeling I need to initially boot up warm and then start getting my temps down because I can really lower voltages after I have gotten my temps up which makes me wonder what I could do if I could just keep my temps down w/ higher voltages.....

You DO NOT want to keep your temps down by using higher voltages.....that's the wrong way to go about the cold-bug. You'll do some serious damage to your cpu over time......

[Gautam]

Very, very nice result for an unmodded LS I'd say...puts it around many 57's. Should be able to pump out some tremendous 3D with that.

[afireinside]

3.2 dual prime stable is killer! Nice chip

You DO NOT want to keep your temps down by using higher voltages.....that's the wrong way to go about the cold-bug. You'll do some serious damage to your cpu over time......

You mean keep temps up

What IS the proper way to get around cold bug then?

And why do you and so many other people say voltage will kill yet NONE OF YOU have ANY proof WHAT SO EVER of voltage killing a CPU. I've asked this MANY times without any proof provided. I'm running 1.65v 24/7 on air cooling with my 165 and it still works flawless. My other chips ran for months at 1.8v+ on water and still work.

[s7e9h3n]

You mean keep temps up

What IS the proper way to get around cold bug then?

And why do you and so many other people say voltage will kill yet NONE OF YOU have ANY proof WHAT SO EVER of voltage killing a CPU. I've asked this MANY times without any proof provided. I'm running 1.65v 24/7 on air cooling with my 165 and it still works flawless. My other chips ran for months at 1.8v+ on water and still work.

Yes, that's what I meant...I'm just not used to speaking in terms of RAISING temps

Proper way to work around the cold bug? There's a few things one could do....for example: What you do -> load the cpu with a "heating" prog in order for it to stay in windows.....

Another is to install a 1/4" cold-plate between the cpu and the evap/container head. For each 1/4" die-sized copper plate, your temps should increase ~ 4C. Your holding/load temps should improve a bit as well.....




How does one prove that voltage killed their cpu? If you think about it, there are many real-world examples of how voltage can possibly kill equipment. You say you've run your cpu's @ 1.8v for months on end. If the cpu was a 1.4V cpu, then you're talking about roughly a 30% overvolt from recommended vcore. How many electronically powered things can you think of which will function properly @ 130% of their rated voltage?

[afireinside]

Interesting "hot" plate Looks nice.

Yeah it's 130% of rated voltage. But if voltage has never killed a CPU then you have no grounds to say it WILL kill a CPU.

[s7e9h3n]

Interesting "hot" plate Looks nice.

Yeah it's 130% of rated voltage. But if voltage has never killed a CPU then you have no grounds to say it WILL kill a CPU.

I ask again....how do you PROVE a cpu was killed by voltage? There are numerous threads which talk about an overclock on a cpu deteriorating over time. Wouldn't that be considered as a cpu "dying"? Look at what happens to memory with prolonged use @ higher than rated Vdd's.......YOu may not see the effects of high vcore on your cpu's if you don't keep them for long, but it doesn't mean the cpu isn't "dying".....

[afireinside]

How do you prove it? A chip dies after you kick the volts up to 1.9-2v. Easy right? Well to each his own, you can run your low volts and I can run my high volts. I'm going to be keeping this 165 @ 1.65v for a while so we'll see what happens

[s7e9h3n]

How do you prove it? A chip dies after you kick the volts up to 1.9-2v. Easy right? Well to each his own, you can run your low volts and I can run my high volts. I'm going to be keeping this 165 @ 1.65v for a while so we'll see what happens

If you're talking about sudden death from voltage, then YES, there have been quite a few cases where people try to boot their cpu's at an outrageous Vcore and the cpu just quit on them....I'm not gonna try to dig up every instance, but I've actually killed a Clawhammer 55 because either A) I set the vcore way >2.0V by accident b) the brand new DFI board that it was installed in pumped so much voltage into the cpu that the heatspreader was still hot after pulling the evap head off. In fact it was so hot that the IHS actually moved from it's original position. (I tend to lean toward choice B)
Your opty @ 1.65, imo, isn't too bad.........

[AndrewZorn]

i like the plate idea. nice finish, too. i hear these are also good for condensation since you can completely seal off the CPU area much easier.

1.5v+ on air isnt good, and voltage does degrade AND kill

how to keep CPU warm at minimal cycle costs... folding! folding.stanford.edu. im at 100%x2 24/7, and i have tried 3d06 before and after i lose like 50-100pts max. of course shut it down for benchmarks but no need for daily use including gaming

[ben805]

afi...that's not nice to suggest other people to ramp up the vcore just to keep it warm you're just lucky that your other chip survived 1.8v....keep knocking on the devil's door and I'm sure sooner or later you'll get a big surprise! 1.65v is pretty much the highest I'm willing to put through these s939 on phase change, I wonder if you ever seen OPB's blown up FX chip with big hole in the middle due to excessive vcore


The loading plate looks like a good idea, using a very thick and cheap ratshack thermal paste probably could give you couple more degree as well.

[Absolute_0]

How do you prove it? A chip dies after you kick the volts up to 1.9-2v. Easy right? Well to each his own, you can run your low volts and I can run my high volts. I'm going to be keeping this 165 @ 1.65v for a while so we'll see what happens

I think it was proven in your own thread if you ever bothered to read the responses. Many CPUs have died at 1.8+ volts

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=76767

And some took less volts
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...83&postcount=7

[Coroner Kyle]

I'll get some pics up in a minute just got back from the movies (don't see Narnia).

I'm only running 1.6V (it gets me booted and is stable), but once my LS temps go down (less positive) I can run 1.45V and be stable.

[Absolute_0]

if only there was a way to change Vcore in windows

[Coroner Kyle]

My thoughts exactly. That's what I was trying to say in my first post. I need voltage to boot up, but after that I could turn it down and be fine.

[Coroner Kyle]

@ absolute 0: Got any pics of your Chilly1 SS in the V-2000. That's what I will do next time after I learn how to use this LS some more.

[Absolute_0]

@ absolute 0: Got any pics of your Chilly1 SS in the V-2000. That's what I will do next time after I learn how to use this LS some more.

I can get you some in a little bit, right now i've only got the picture of fitting the bare compressor into the bottom of the V2000 with nothing else installs... it kinda gives you an idea of what i am doing. Right now it looks a bit nicer, got a side window for the case and some UV lights.

[s7e9h3n]

I can get you some in a little bit, right now i've only got the picture of fitting the bare compressor into the bottom of the V2000 with nothing else installs... it kinda gives you an idea of what i am doing. Right now it looks a bit nicer, got a side window for the case and some UV lights.

LOL...that looks familiar.....

[Absolute_0]

lol, you been in contact with jin? He did the modding. The bottom is reinforced to hold a SS, there are padding strips lining the bottom, the oval hole is enlarged to allow the hose through, and there is a square cut out for the backplate on a phase.

[s7e9h3n]

lol, you been in contact with jin? He did the modding.

That looks like the one @ Reggie's....then again, I'm sure all black lianli's with a compressor on the bottom look pretty similar
BTW, it may be just a funny angle from the camera, but the bottom looks as if it may need a little more reinforcement....hehehe

[JuanFlaiter]

1.65 Dangerous? Never...

[Coroner Kyle]

This isn't too big? I run 1920 x 1200 so my ss are kind of big. I did resize.

[s7e9h3n]

Nice work....have you tried 12x267?

[Coroner Kyle]

Memory doesn't want to go over 250. I just got some settings from mzdcpa that I will try and he's running a Mach I and FX57 (@280's).

I've got this Corsair memory and I think I will try it after I play w/ the Ballistix some more. Do you think I should get some Mushkin Redline w/ Winbond?