IC7-MAX3 or P4C800-E Deluxe for a 3.2c?

**Dano 00TA** · 09-24-2003, 09:20 AM

Which of these 2 will give me the best combo of of performance and stability in my Vapo?

Is the Max worth the extra 30+ bucks?

Thanks

**Svenn** · 09-24-2003, 09:24 AM

Hehehe, I just posted the same post like 10 seconds ago, lol
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...threadid=19609

**Dano 00TA** · 09-24-2003, 09:37 AM

I noticed it after I posted mine

Guess I have 2 times the chance at getting an answer then

If there's a cheaper board that'll give simular performance that'll be fine too

**mouawad** · 09-24-2003, 10:27 AM

I have the P4c800-E and i can stay that it's a very stable and fast board. Haven't used the MAx-3 but i did have a MAx-2 board which is essentially very similar and didn't like at all. The Abit board is a fine board but i always found it a bit flakey when o/c highly ie my 3.0c @ 3950 in a MAch-II.

I think it's universally agreed that you can squeeze more FSB out of the Asus board which comes into play if you have a 2.4/2.6 chip, not so important on the 3.0/3.2. Anyway you can't really go wrong with either but i'm sure the Asus is a bit more stable from my experience.

**Dano 00TA** · 09-24-2003, 11:21 AM

Thanks for the reply. I'm starting to lean towards the asus board now. I was ready to order the max till I read a few posts about people having problems with it, plus the asus is fully compatible with a Vapochill

Oh yeah, and I save over 30 bucks

**hollywood** · 09-24-2003, 01:00 PM

I'm running the P4C800-E and LOVE it.

Just remember that the BIOS is a bit wierd. because the mem-divider settings go like this for ASUS.

RAM FSB

400=1:1

320=5:4

266=3:2

**mouawad** · 09-24-2003, 01:18 PM

Hollywood - glad you're enjoying your board as well

have you played around with different bios's so far??? mine came with 1009 and i havent tried 10 or 11 yet as ive heard mixed reports for both but i might be able to squeeze some more out of it .....or end up with a dead board if i temp fate with 1011

**k|ngp|n** · 09-24-2003, 04:16 PM

I have them both and I have think my E overclocks better and is more stable than this max3, but with a good bios or 2 maybe that can change. Also, the extra vdimm on the max is cool if you don't want to do the mod.

As of the 1.2 official bios, I would have to say the E is better

**hollywood** · 09-24-2003, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by mouawad
Hollywood - glad you're enjoying your board as well

have you played around with different bios's so far??? mine came with 1009 and i havent tried 10 or 11 yet as ive heard mixed reports for both but i might be able to squeeze some more out of it .....or end up with a dead board if i temp fate with 1011

Ya know bro...I'm just using the most up to date BIOS I could get...which was the 1011. And I've not had problem one yet.

**phil stanbridge** · 09-25-2003, 03:51 AM

That Asus is a top board. It's the best canterwood out there IMHO. I've had my 2.4 @ 3.8, my 2.8 @ 3.9 and my 3.0 @ 4.2, all in the P4C800-E with the latest bios. The max3 doesn't even come close in my books.

**Dano 00TA** · 09-25-2003, 04:10 AM

Ok, that's it....I'm convinced now, goin with the Asus

I can't wait to see what I can get outta this cpu!!
Thanks

**Hydra** · 09-25-2003, 08:04 AM

P4C800-E Deluxe!

**gouda96** · 09-25-2003, 06:01 PM

I wanted to be a little different...i just ordere a 4pca3+ rev2...wish me luck guys

I figure even if performance is down, how big of a gap could it be? I like the vdim and don't want to spend money for the max3, not that i realy have a problem doing a vmod on the p4c800, but it is nice not having to. It also only costs $140, so there is a huge difference. I realy hope this board does well...seems like it is very strong.

I am sure I won't regret it...my best rig 4 months ago was an 8k3a+ and 1800xp @ 1.7 with an ax-7 and loud tornado. I have been using a 1700@2.6 with nf7-s rev2, and I had my intel rig going during the summer with an ic7-g, which I sold because I planned on buying the max3, but it just didn't seem worth the price tag.

I can finally get my pelts going and finalize my rig...for about 2 days that is

**taco** · 09-25-2003, 06:47 PM

would you mind posting a link as to where you got it from? 3.3 vdimm is yummy..

**TheDude** · 09-25-2003, 06:57 PM

I built an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe for my son and was so impressed with it that I bought one for myself. This is coming from a guy who has a stack of Abit mobo boxes in the garage 4 feet tall! It's a great board!

**gouda96** · 09-25-2003, 07:25 PM

censuspc.com

I talked to a sales rep and he said they got a bunch of rev2's in, and are not selling the rev1.1's anymore. They are gonna keep the 1.1's for "rma buffers" so that people can't switch out of their old one's by saying they are broken. If you buy one now you will get a rev2. He claims there aren't many, and they are going fast...but i doubt that, just sales talk. I am pretty sure anyone that would have been buying this mobo realy quickly already has a few...well I guess I bought it as soon as i heard, maybe i am alone...

I saw mwave had them also, but don't know if they are rev2's

hey svenn, did you even get one of those cooltechnica delay thingys that you posted in another thread? That looked kind of cool...wonder if it would help the cpu live a little bit longer, starting as cold as possible instead of possibly starting as hot as possible.

**Svenn** · 09-25-2003, 11:56 PM

Originally posted by gouda96
censuspc.com

I talked to a sales rep and he said they got a bunch of rev2's in, and are not selling the rev1.1's anymore. They are gonna keep the 1.1's for "rma buffers" so that people can't switch out of their old one's by saying they are broken. If you buy one now you will get a rev2. He claims there aren't many, and they are going fast...but i doubt that, just sales talk. I am pretty sure anyone that would have been buying this mobo realy quickly already has a few...well I guess I bought it as soon as i heard, maybe i am alone...

I saw mwave had them also, but don't know if they are rev2's

hey svenn, did you even get one of those cooltechnica delay thingys that you posted in another thread? That looked kind of cool...wonder if it would help the cpu live a little bit longer, starting as cold as possible instead of possibly starting as hot as possible.

I have it sitting around, but I don't have a P4 board or chip yet... still deciding on the max3 or p4c800-e deluxe... Everywhere but this thread people are saying go for the max3 so I'm so confused now, lol. I think I may go max3 just so I don't have to do the vdimm mod. I really hope this prom works with it though :-/

**Creative** · 09-26-2003, 03:05 AM

The max3 has a sucky 5:4 divider problem where the pc will not boot over a certain fsb level, for me its 285. WizardB has the problem, and I believe a few others here have it to

I am going to wait till early next week for a bios to be released and if it isnt, then its the P4C800-E for me :thumbsup:

Like The Dude, I have a stack of Abit boxes and the last Asus board I owned was the P4PE, and I returned it the next day cos I hated it so much.....but from what I have seen, the P4C800-E aloows higher OCs and appears to be more stable than the current Max3 Abit is offering.....

Wonder if its the actual board, or just a bios is needed.....time will tell

**phil stanbridge** · 09-26-2003, 03:12 AM

Because of that 5:4 problem amongst others, I could only get a 600mhz overclock when I had my max3. Ditched it, replaced it with the Asus and now enjoying a 1200mhz overclock.

**TheDude** · 09-26-2003, 03:17 AM

time will tell

You could be right about that. Look at the NF7-S. I owned every revision of that board. Lately Abit seems to have adopted "The Microsoft Way" of making the consumer pay them to beta test their boards. Funny thing is that it seems to eventually result in the best mobos.

**Creative** · 09-26-2003, 04:29 AM

hehehehehe
Problem is Dude, I only have nextweek of Uni for holidays and then back again for a few weeks before exams....so prob need a sollution in the next 4-5 days......the main thing about the Abit is the vdimm....but then again the Asus mod is pretty easy.....oooer decisions decisions

Phil, that post just made me tingle

U really got 600mhz more from the Asus board? What about when u Oced with the 3:2 divider on the Abit?

**TheDude** · 09-26-2003, 04:36 AM

Faced with the same decision...I went with the Asus, but in time I expect the Abit to improve as usual.

**phil stanbridge** · 09-26-2003, 04:58 AM

Yep - a clear 600mhz better with my Asus than with the Max3, and I tried both a L311 3.0C and my 2.8C. Both chips are good for 4ghz. I gave up trying with the Max3 to be honest after I found stability at 3.6 and it wouldn't go any further no matter what. I wanted to run some benchies and this was a hopeless situation. I hit the 5:4 bug without doubt. 3:2 was pointless because the ram wasn't being pushed enough for my liking. I can now run 270-280FSB stable in the Asus 1:1 with my Corsair 4000, and 270-280 stable with my OCZ 3700 Gold at 5:4. Depends what mood I'm in

FWIW I got over 55k in Aquamark. I've just reapplied my waterchill to the gpu although I'm struggling with a pesky leak at the mo. I want to hit 56k.

**Creative** · 09-26-2003, 05:33 AM

WOah damn nice there phil :thumbsup:

Based on yours and Dudes advice, it is making me think more about it....but currently playing with a 2.4 and the 3:2 divider is fine....but again, its pretty lousy having a board that doesnt do something it should be doing defaul

**phil stanbridge** · 09-26-2003, 05:39 AM

Exactly my sentiments mate. You don't pay top dollar for a board to run it at stock do you..

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