Innovatek? the best? cool . . .

[DarthBeavis]

http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?...&gopid=162847&

Post 24. Is the block this guy recommends really awesome? Has it been tested here?

[NaeKuh]

Db did you miss me ing out the eVGA rep on XS saying they paired up with the tiest company in the world, only to have the eVGA rep come out of hiding and say there working on pure copper components?




innovatek is about as good as my doggie poo bag. All its good for is dog dookie.

[DarthBeavis]

link? I added a reference to the GX2 blocks

[NaeKuh]

It was on the GX2 blocks. LOL..

Poor Mailk, the guy really likes innovotek. But he knows alu is crap.

[smee]

I strongly advise you, DarthBeavis, to get a bit more experience from the water-cooling companies before judging something as the best for a Skulltrail.

Does he know that DarthBeavis is the master watercooler?

That guy has probably never even heard of the Fuzion.....

[NaeKuh]

Does he know that DarthBeavis is the master watercooler?

That guy has probably never even heard of the Fuzion.....

DB pop your open bench rig. That thing was awesome with all those 480gtx's. Should make him shut it.


LOL i love this comment:

DarthBeavis Today, 03:54 AM Post #15
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QUOTE(daigoro @ Apr 28 2008, 08:01 PM)

Here's my setup with pics and temps @ 25C (77F) ambient room temp - pretty much watercooled everything in a single loop (oc'd E6600 C2D, oc'd quad SLI GPUs, SB, NB, 2 vregs, 4 DIMMs, 2 Raptors and 2 Caviars) - http://forums.slizone.com/index.php?s=&...st&p=137109
It works!

I hope this is a helpful reference for your WC project.



How does this apply to a Skulltlrail rig? An E6600 <> Dual QX9775s dude. He could do it all with Koolance if he wanted to (their new C340 blocks have had good reviews).



Thats funny, comparing a C2D against a full blown LGA771 Yorkie! mmm 2 cores vs 8.

[rosco]

No need to go further when we read that from your guy :

Innovatek is the only one that actually makes the coolant to cool your components by using low-flow to draw away maximum heat. All the others don't allow complete thermal equilibrium because of the technical constraints of using high-flow, and hope that the metal at a bit lower temperature cools the hot components.

Physics revolution and complete nonsense, yeah. This guy should learn some basis in thermal management instead spreading BS

[DarthBeavis]

No need to go further when we read that from your guy :

Physics revolution and complete nonsense, yeah. This guy should learn some basis in thermal management instead spreading BS

I am not too smart so I just listen to experts My expertise is modding anyways . . .watercooling and phase change cooling are just icing on teh cake. Well, good watercooling should be visually appealing IMHO as well.

[LinusTech]

To clarify for you a little bit, DarthBeavis, the biggest problem with that guy's argument is that he seems to think that lower flow means better efficiency. This is simply not true.

High performance at low flow rates (see FuZion) is high efficiency. Simply lowering flow rates doesn't draw more heat. It's like saying that on a hot summer day having the fan on super low will make it pull more heat off your body. It's just plain silly. Higher flow means more molecules collide means better thermal transfer in any fluid (water or air).

[IanY]

Gosh.. I'm glad Linus explained it.. or I would have tossed out the second pump in each loop and undervolted the pumps to slow down the flow hahaha.. just joking...

[jbartlett323]

so just out of curiosity i went and looked at the cpu block from innovatek... and i couldn't find a direct website but FrozenCPU has them: http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c8...ml?o=price_asc
i thought we typically stayed away from pushpins? can't see them making good contact for extended periods... and plastic likes to stretch and shrink when exposed to high temps...
but at least it is copper...

[rosco]

It's the same speech each time. People have no problem to know and to understand that more airflow gives better temp on a heatsink, but with water they think differently and at the complete opposite, even if these convective phenomena are governed by the same physical laws. Never understood why or what could induce this opposite statement to them...

Did you ever see the internals of this overpriced G-flow ? Never a good thermal engineer would to do that...

[DarthBeavis]

To clarify for you a little bit, DarthBeavis, the biggest problem with that guy's argument is that he seems to think that lower flow means better efficiency. This is simply not true.

High performance at low flow rates (see FuZion) is high efficiency. Simply lowering flow rates doesn't draw more heat. It's like saying that on a hot summer day having the fan on super low will make it pull more heat off your body. It's just plain silly. Higher flow means more molecules collide means better thermal transfer in any fluid (water or air).

Thanks a billion! I am gonna have to order some stuff from you now! Well, I was going to anyways.

[omaryunus]

i dont personally see the point to go with innovatek... performance wise it is only slightly better if any over the D-tek Fuzion and the price of the G flow is twice that of the FuZion (more than that actually)... $130 really what are we paying for??? there is no where near the same amount of copper as a full cover VGA water block and you can find a nickel plated full cover water block for around 130 i dont see where all this money we are paying going in to like if i see it has a feature that the fuzion doesnt i understand but thats not the point either... it does not have a good installation system either as many have said push pin is NEVER the first choice... I dont understand confusion :p and innovatek has a 780i chipset set which is going for more than the 780i itself :p... again where is all this money going and what are we paying for... you can get an an-fi set for the 780i for less than that and they look MUCH better :p well that was my rant about the stupidity of going innovatek (for someone without a unlimited budget :p)

[crash5s]

i dont personally see the point to go with innovatek... performance wise it is only slightly better if any over the D-tek Fuzion and the price of the G flow is twice that of the FuZion (more than that actually)... $130 really what are we paying for??? there is no where near the same amount of copper as a full cover VGA water block and you can find a nickel plated full cover water block for around 130 i dont see where all this money we are paying going in to like if i see it has a feature that the fuzion doesnt i understand but thats not the point either... it does not have a good installation system either as many have said push pin is NEVER the first choice... I dont understand confusion :p and innovatek has a 780i chipset set which is going for more than the 780i itself :p... again where is all this money going and what are we paying for... you can get an an-fi set for the 780i for less than that and they look MUCH better :p well that was my rant about the stupidity of going innovatek (for someone without a unlimited budget :p)

I'd like to see some evidence that the g-flow is slightly better, if even the same as the fuzion.

I've had some innovatek parts in the past and they weren't stellar performers. Looked nice, high quality manufacturing, but didn't perform. Works ok in an matx build where space is on a premium but outside of that I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

[nullface]

I just read the crap from G.Abhinav, what an idiot!

[Zaskar]

Does that thing Really use push pins?

[omaryunus]

I'd like to see some evidence that the g-flow is slightly better, if even the same as the fuzion.

I've had some innovatek parts in the past and they weren't stellar performers. Looked nice, high quality manufacturing, but didn't perform. Works ok in an matx build where space is on a premium but outside of that I wouldn't wish it on anybody.

oh sorry if i said that i was entertaining the guy on the other forum who says that innovatek is the best and nothing is better. i personally love my fuZion and my DD Waterblock did not perform even close to my fuZion. its just way to expensive for my blood :p

[Boogerlad]

lol. If he refuses to listen, then why bother? let him waste his cash.

[omaryunus]

just my personal rant cuz i dont like it at all used it once horrible experience for how much money i wasted

[NaeKuh]

Gosh.. I'm glad Linus explained it.. or I would have tossed out the second pump in each loop and undervolted the pumps to slow down the flow hahaha.. just joking...

DOE i cranked my RD-30 to 5V, need to crank it up since linus cleared it up. :ROFL:


You also saved me from getting a new pump! j/k


DB you run out of things to clear up with them, end it with this:



Say the people from XS is giving innovotek a nice little birdie!

[nikhsub1]

No need to go further when we read that from your guy :

Physics revolution and complete nonsense, yeah. This guy should learn some basis in thermal management instead spreading BS

ROFL my thoughts exactly rosco! What a .......

[biftek.]

... I've got nothing but praises for Innovatek as it is absolutely great and employs the thermodynamically most efficient form of cooling ...

maybe you should use bigger words with terrible grammar too.

[LinusTech]

I can't tell if I'm being mocked for explaining it or not :p

I wanted to mention it just because DarthBeavis linked over here and I'm hoping some people will follow the link and read this thread to see the explanation

@ IanY and Nikhsub1: You guys know that I know you're the flowmasters

[NaeKuh]

@ IanY and Nikhsub1: You guys know that I know you're the flowmasters

:[ i get no love.


Nah were not mocking, cuz you said it as easy as possible to understand.

Were mocking the whole fact that you had to explain it.