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Thread: SSD Write Endurance 25nm Vs 34nm

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    P/E 1755.
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    Looks like the Samsung is still pulling through. Impressive to say the least, considering it has quite a higher WA compared to the Intel / Crucial drives. Maybe their NAND has more cycles compared to Intel / Micron ONFI NAND ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by One_Hertz View Post
    198TB. 20 reallocated sectors. Md5 OK. Anvil - I will try your new app tonight to see if I can get that SMART attribute.
    Did you get to try it? (no hurry)

    How is the 320 doing

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    Having some minor issues on the AMD rig, not sure what's going on and so I've moved the drive to an Intel rig just to make sure that there are no issues with the drive.
    (no SMART errors reported but the drive is dropped and is logged with reference to a "controller error", happened twice in 10 minutes)
    So, either it's wearing out the IO sub-system on the MB or there are developments on the drive.

    I've run diagnostics (Intel Toolbox) and there were no issues, it's running the "Endurance test" now just fine although it's been just a few loops.

    I'm going to let it run a few more loops before I'm moving it back.

    161.82TB Host writes
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    Reallocated sector count : 6

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    Having some minor issues on the AMD rig, not sure what's going on and so I've moved the drive to an Intel rig just to make sure that there are no issues with the drive.
    ooohhh high drama! interesting!


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    Doesn't look like the drama is caused by the SSD, it's been > 45 minutes and no issues/errors.

    It's late and so I'll just have to move it back to the dedicated test-rig, will know for sure what's going on in 6-7 hours


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    OK, I've stopped the testing and ran a Full Diagnostics scan, all OK.

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    Odd that the motherboard would start taking issue with the testing before the SSD

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    That port has handled some 100TB of writes.
    Well, lets see what tomorrow brings, moving it back to the test-rig right now.
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    Wow!!!!!!

    Amazing thread and information and great to finally have solid evidence that SSDs will last much longer than most would ever expect...especially since I have been purporting such since 07.

    Hate the fact that I came in late and now trying to catch up with all but would be great to have a chart that shows total TB written before end life followed by the number of years that would have totaled at the total daily write estimate that they base their calculations on.

    Personally, I see this as much bigger than most would think and have at least 3 manufacturer reps looking this over after sending them the link earlier. It truly is the closest we have seen to reliable endurance estimates and sure puts to rest any thought that SSDs may have a limited life span.

    Just my two cents and thanks all and especial Anvil for that bench,ark which, IMHO, is the best going right now and I have used it in several reviews...Thank you very much Anvil!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vapor View Post
    Odd that the motherboard would start taking issue with the testing before the SSD
    That's a good point. The controller is being stressed as well. When I was testing the port activity light was on continuously.

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    Morningupdate:
    104.0416 TiB
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    Avg speed 89.90 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 42 to 40.
    P/E 1812.
    MD5 OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ao1 View Post
    That's a good point. The controller is being stressed as well. When I was testing the port activity light was on continuously.
    Not sure what really happened, it has to be related to the test-rig in some way as the drive was moved within minutes to the other rig and it had no idle time and diagnostics were all OK.
    (could be caused by a lot of factors like, cabling, heat, OS, drivers,...)

    I'll just have to keep an eye on it, it's been running as usual since I restarted the test, no MD5 errors, nothing.
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    163.07TB Host writes
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    Reallocated sectors, 6

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    Eveningupdate:
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    Avg speed 89.60 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 40 to 38.
    P/E 1880.
    MD5 OK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    145.757 TiB, 405 hours, sa177: 1/1/12031
    154.505 TiB, 429 hours, sa177: 1/1/12664

    Average speed reported by Anvil's app has been steady at about 112MB/s.

    The other two unknown SMART attributes, 178 and 235, are still at 72/72/276 and 99/99/2, just as they were when the SSD was fresh out of the box.

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    C300 Update

    56.83TiB, 81 MWI, 957 raw wear indicator, 61.8MiB/sec, MD5 OK

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    Nice to see the Intel almost going past the 200tb limit!

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    Morning update:

    111.2420 TiB
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    AD gone from 38 to 36.
    P/E 1938.
    MD5 OK.

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    Strange the M4 is already at MWI 36. Wonder what this value really means and how the C300 will behave while in the same stage!

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    Nice work, thanks for sacrificing your SSDs in the name of science.
    Its reassuring to know that they might have the stamina for things like Intels Smart Response without having to spend the $$$ on something like Larson Creek

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    Eveningupdate:

    115.3564 TiB
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    Avg speed 89.23 MiB/s.
    AD gone from 36 to 34.
    P/E 2010.
    MD5 OK.

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    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulanula View Post
    Strange the M4 is already at MWI 36. Wonder what this value really means and how the C300 will behave while in the same stage!
    Well. We just have to wait and see. Due to the high writespeed the mwi will drop at a higher rate then the Intels, but the m4 might have much more then 3000 P/E to use so the next 2 weeks will be exciting
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    154.505 TiB, 429 hours, sa177: 1/1/12664
    164.237 TiB, 455 hours, sa177: 1/1/13558

    Average speed reported by Anvil's app has been steady at about 112MB/s.

    The other two unknown SMART attributes, 178 and 235, are still at 72/72/276 and 99/99/2, just as they were when the SSD was fresh out of the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.A.T View Post
    Well. We just have to wait and see. Due to the high writespeed the mwi will drop at a higher rate then the Intels, but the m4 might have much more then 3000 P/E to use so the next 2 weeks will be exciting
    Yeah... I predict next two weeks will be as exciting as last two. I already ate 1Kg+ popcorn watching and waiting for some Samsung/Intel action... but nothing. These SSDs just won't die!

    (my prediction is 1000TiB for each SSD unless there is a total failure)
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnw View Post
    164.237 TiB, 455 hours, sa177: 1/1/13558

    Average speed reported by Anvil's app has been steady at about 112MB/s.

    The other two unknown SMART attributes, 178 and 235, are still at 72/72/276 and 99/99/2, just as they were when the SSD was fresh out of the box.
    Samsung looks like the seabiscuit of this race.... it refuses to give up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sergiu View Post
    Yeah... I predict next two weeks will be as exciting as last two weeks. I already ate 1Kg+ popcorn watching and waiting for some Samsung/Intel action... but nothing. These SSDs just won't die!

    (my prediction is 1000TB for each SSD unless there is a total failure)
    1000TB is a lot, but maybe the intel 320 will go so far. It's got 16GB extra nand compared to the rest to handle less P/E .
    1: AMD FX-8150-Sabertooth 990FX-8GB Corsair XMS3-C300 256GB-Gainward GTX 570-HX-750
    2: Phenom II X6 1100T-Asus M4A89TD Pro/usb3-8GB Corsair Dominator-Gainward GTX 460SE/-X25-V 40GB-(Crucial m4 64GB /Intel X25-M G1 80GB/X25-E 64GB/Mtron 7025/Vertex 1 donated to endurance testing)
    3: Asus U31JG - X25-M G2 160GB

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