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Thread: Limitation breakthrough?! The initial look of DFI LP UT P35-T2R

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    Limitation breakthrough?! The initial look of DFI LP UT P35-T2R

    Not long ago, DFI was famed for its LP NF4 series motherboard.
    At that time, LP series board was attracted most of enthusiasts with its OC
    ability, fully Japanese capacitors and SLI “switchable” function.


    DFI LANParty series is mainly focus on high-end performance and OC product.
    Of course, those are a bit expensive… Recently, some models like RD600 or
    680i LT…etc. even though the performance of them are still up to standard,
    but the “launch time” was a bit too late. It lost so much market opportunity.


    The Intel’s P35 chipset is launched in June officially. Fortunately, this time
    will not be lag behind the Intel’s launched time. DFI is ready to launch its P35
    model in August.

    As usual, they’re going to release the highest-end version first, which provides the unique heat pipe solution, “Transpiper”.
    It is DFI LANParty UT P35-T2R.


    The package design adopts the new design, since 680i.
    It uses blue to be the main color, which is my favorite color too.


    1st box, Accessories


    Insides the box…
    Cables, menu, Multi-language quick installation guide, drivers CD…etc.
    The noteworthy features are the Brand new sound card and that copper pieces.


    A close-up on brand new audio card,
    This is called “Bernstein Audio”, an add-on card style.
    The first on board audio supports “Full-Rate Lossless Content Protection codec”. It is 7.1 +2 channels.
    That is really attractive that on board audio can be like this.




    The 2nd box, The Transpiper,
    This gear is just like a secret weapon of DFI. An adjustable heat pipe cooler,
    It can be mounted onto different places of the board. Further, you also can
    extend it to outside of the chassis for a better heat dissipation.


    Inside the box…
    The heat pipe itself. Screws for secure (also can secure a fan on it)
    Installation guild…


    The 3rd box is contains the motherboard itself. fully solid capacitors are
    almost a must of highest-end motherboard.




    Lower left of the board:
    3X PCI-EX16 (PCIE1 at x16, PCIE3 at x4 or x1 and PCIE4 at x1)
    1X PCI-EX1
    3X PCI
    The port that right below VIA chipset is the audio module “connecting port”


    Lower right of the board:
    1 x Floppy disk,
    8 x SATAII (ICH9R+JMB363)
    ICH9R, which supports RAID 0, 1, 0+1, 5
    JMB363, which supports RAID 0, 1


    Upper right of the board:
    1X IDE
    4 x DIMMs of DDRII, which supports 667/800/1066
    a mark, printed “Made is Taiwan” up there…


    Upper left of the board:
    The 8-phase digital PWM, that is enough to provide stable power for Quad
    cores CPUs.


    IO parts:
    6 x USB 2.0
    1 x 1394
    Dual Gigabit LAN (Supports Teaming function)


    North Bridge cooler


    South Bridge cooler
    It can mount the joint of Transpiper on to the surface.


    This area likes a last part before the “terminal” of the whole heat pipe.
    The heat of the system will be conducted through here to Transpiper
    (outside). Besides, it has a copper “bridge” to connect the CPU and PWM.
    That’s for help to carry out the heat from CPU.


    A powerful motherboard needs a powerful DDRII memory too…
    Corsair PC8888 can reached a good record with 680i ,like:
    DDRII 1310 CL4 4-3-3 2T’s PI 1M


    A guide for installation


    A boot-up screen of this series


    Drivers’ interface,
    The E6850 of my own…frankly, it is not that hard to reach FSB500.
    But in DFI’s P35, I was surprised it can be easier to get into OS with FSB522.
    Most FSB of the CPU can be overclock to around 480 to 550MHz. I tried the
    same CPU with other brand’s P35 motherboard. They can’t turn-on the
    system when FSB is over 510MHs. DFI LP UT P35-T2R levels up the FSB to a next level.



    I just got this motherboard yet. LANParty series always bring me something
    new about their design and technology.
    This model is obviously had creativity and innovation, especially the heat pipe design.
    Aside from this, the OC performance is really up to the standard.
    Only if you have a good CPU, you can reach FSB600 easily.
    Recently, I saw a review of this model, which ends up with an amazing FSB670 record.
    I believe that most of enthusiasts are look forward to see a better record than DFI NF4 age.
    The BIOS options and OC introduction will be updated soon. Thank you!!




    The 2nd half of my review

    BIOS options
    Boot-up screen


    The main options for tweaking


    Somehow it’s a “characteristic” of Intel chipset when overclocking…
    it will shutdown after tweaking. For that, DFI has 2 different modes to chose:
    Mode 1) when the system was boot-up, it will run a little “diagnose”.
    If the CPU frequency doesn’t change too much, it will skip the “shutdown”
    function and rewrite the clock generator directly.

    Mode 2) no matter how little the clock or DRAM’s ratio has been changed, the system still “shutdown” and reboot by itself.



    Clock VCO Divider
    This function is use to fix the clock generator’s divider and “NB Strap” by its
    jumper. Then, system wouldn’t be reboot again because it presumed itself is
    not in an overclock status. (this function needs to cooperate with particular
    jumper)


    CPU FSB range: from 200 to 700MHz


    Boot-up clock
    This function can help you out by setting a lower boot up clock as a buffer,
    when your FSB is tweaked too high in the beginning.


    Memory Speed ratio option is really plentiful


    CPU related functions


    DRAM Timing details


    Voltage related settings
    The CPU voltage can be separated into 2 sections:
    1st section is from 0.44375 to 1.6000V
    2nd section is 100.23~ 130.00%


    The range of DRAM: 1.710 to 3.040V


    PC health status


    I found that the “copper bridge” over the CPU and PWM area is a sufficient
    way to dissipate heat form both of them. Hence, if the CPU cooler has a
    better dissipation,
    It’ll help to carry out heat from other chipsets. .On the contrary, if the
    Transpiper shows a better performance of heat dissipation, it also will help
    CPU to carry out apart of the heat. I think they help each other….


    The Transpiper can be extended to outside of the chassis. And let the PSU
    fan to carry out the heat from inside the chassis. I think if I put a 8 x 8cm
    fan onto south bridge part, the effect of heat conduction will be double.


    he cooler installed


    The copper bridge helps two parts to conduct heat.
    Of course the thermal paste is needed...


    Test system detail
    CPU:INTEL Core 2 Duo E6850
    MB: DFI LP UT P35-T2R
    DRAM:CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
    VGA:ELSA 860GT PH2 256B3 2DT RH
    HD:WD1600AAJS
    POWER:Corsair HX620W Modular Power Supply
    Cooler:Thermaltake V1


    At the previous part, I have already showed you the FSB test.
    It’s a pity I only have a Intel E6850 CPU, which is not that good in FSB tweaking.
    Generally speaking, most of P35 board in market might be stable at FSB500.
    But if the FSB overclock than 505 or above, that will made the system unable
    to boot up or can’t made the OS start up smoothly. DFI’s LP UT P35-T2R can
    get into OS stably under FSB522, more than that, it also can completely
    finished a Super PI 32M.
    Once I have a better CPU, I’ll update a extreme FSB OC review then.

    Actually, there was several very good review of FSB record around some HW sites.
    6th Aug. version BIOS has enhanced DRAM’s performance of this board.
    It particularly improves a lot when memory such like Corsair’s advanced “tall”
    PCB modules. First, you can try to make the “CLK fine delay” option into 6.
    (Notice: if you use this setting for “short” PCB DDRII modules, it may caused
    hanging or shut down) Somehow, different PCB modules needed different LCK
    fine delay settings, it has to spend so much time to find the answer.

    If you follow the golden ratio of 500/1200 in DDRII CL5 5-5-15, I found that,
    it only need 1.95V (BIOS default is 1.972V), 2 Super PI 32M can be done steady.


    Even though the Enhance Data transmitting/ addressing has been set to “Auto”, the bandwidth’s performance is still better than some others.


    For Intel chipset, It is really not easy to reach DDRII 1100~1200 under the
    setting of “CL4”. On the other hand, the system also took only 2.44V (BIOS
    default is 2.47V) to finish 2 Super PI 32M stably. Under same “golden ratio
    500/1200, DDRIICL4 4-4-9


    The “bandwidth” looks great when memory under testing.


    This is a quite outstanding OC record of Intel platform.
    It finished the task under 1200 CL5 low voltage and 1200 CL4 settings.
    3DMark2003 test.


    DFI LP UT P35-T2R
    The merits:
    1)A good look and tasteful package design and related design
    2)100% Japanese solid capacitors, 3 slots of PCIe x 16, which supports
    CrossFire and physics rendering.
    3)A unique heat piper cooler, Transpiper. It is real sufficient for heat
    dissipation for inside or outside of the chassis.
    4)Rich BIOS options for OC and voltage, especially an enhancement for Intel
    chipset’s characteristic that forced to shutdown and decrease voltage.
    5)8 phases digital PWM and independent Bernstein audio module.
    6)Seems the best FSB OC for all P35 board in the market. DDRII performance
    is almost the same.


    Defects:
    1)It almost like a common failing that DFI’s LP board is apparently higher price
    in market. This model cost around USD$290.(I knew some area has priced
    USD$260)
    2)It should have a more detail but easy understanding install menu for
    Transpiper to let users to install it quickly.
    3)DFI P35 launched into market later than others manufacturer almost 2
    months (before, they almost release new products that later than others up
    to half year. It much better, but hope they can improve that after)

    I heard a lot about X38 in this half year. Maybe most of mobo manufacturers
    will launch their X38 in 1 or 2 months. But, leading brands keep launching new
    P35 products. It proves how “charming” the P35 can be… Besides, X38 only
    born for DDR3, of course it has a better bandwidth for Crossfire. The spec.
    comparison between P35 and X38 is quite similar to 965 and 975.

    However, It is good to see that DFI did a good job with its LP P35. Obviously,
    they have some improvements on OC ability and product’s creativity.
    I agree this is a good choice when you want to have a try of P35 high-end motherboards.
    This is my brief introduction though.
    If I have found some thing further on audio or OC settings, I’ll update that to
    you guys. Thanks!!


    windwithme next test...which one do you want to see?!

    BIOSTAR TD35D3-A7 Deluxe



    MSI P35 Diamond





    DFI BLOOD-IRON(INFINITY P35)


    ASUS P5K-Permium


    GIGABYTE P35-DS3P


    BENQ 241WZ





    8/27 Update

    500/1200 CL5 5-5-9 1.85V
    2 Super PI 32M stably



    E6700 555Mhz
    2 Super PI 32M stably
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    This motherboard looks so sexy

    I'm really tempted to get one, but then on the other hand I rather wait for the X38...
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    Looks nice. I couldn't see the transpiper on the last picture, is it not required?

    Any ideas on power consumption? Is it high like Asus (20-40w above the rest) or normal like Gigabyte and Abit?

    Have you got a quad-core to test vdroop?
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    i like the mobo colours and the bootup screen

    nice work DFI
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    looks really promising.. waiting for more test
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    Looks very nice.

    me wants to se end users have it
    And they ARE late
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    2.5 months is not late for the best mobo in the market imho
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    depends if you consider the X38 will start to surface next month...

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    My next board when it come`s out

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    The Green looks great

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    great pics, id like to see some possible orientations utilizing the transpiper though

    Im def. choosing this over the blitz forumla
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    i love how it looks they really did a nice job on this board but wish it came out sooner.
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    I won't change my self to it because I'm already set with Asus but i must admit. It looks really awesome, colours are very sexy i like that teh l33t silver on heat pipes. Too bad its so late.
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    Hmm that is a pretty boot screen. How much does it cost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Chief View Post
    Hmm that is a pretty boot screen. How much does it cost?
    well at least over here it costs 267€
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    Quote Originally Posted by sobol View Post
    I won't change my self to it because I'm already set with Asus but i must admit. It looks really awesome, colours are very sexy i like that teh l33t silver on heat pipes. Too bad its so late.
    2 Months isn't late. It took DFI much longer to get 680i / 965 out of the door.

    If it ain't watercooled, I don't wanna know.

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    And when the DDR3 version?
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    Gotta love the design and the boot screen
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    MUST HAVE NOW!

    What happens if you want to watercool the Northbridge but not the southie?

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    Who wants to take bets on X38 boards hitting the market first?

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    Here's a shot showing the outside install of the extra fin assy.


    Also looks like it can be mounted internally pointing down somehow. At least based on this mounting hole by the fins.

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    dfi will do wisely if she'll take out the x38 asap.

    dfi timing is so bad..................who's in charge there ?
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    This is a must-have board

    Hope it comes for US$ 300 tops
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    dfi just always seems to be a little to late these day...it's not like when the nf4 sli-dr boards came out for the AMD's their timing was ALOT better then...
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