ASUS Striker II Extreme

[Trigger5521]

Sangrak, I just redid my S2E water setup, added a second RAD for more cooling.

See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=747


Have an EK NB and SB acetel water blocks for the chipset leftover if you are interested.

[Sangrak]

Sangrak, I just redid my S2E water setup, added a second RAD for more cooling.

See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=747


Have an EK NB and SB acetel water blocks for the chipset leftover if you are interested.

Thanks for the offer, Trigger, but I've put my water cooling set up on hold atm. With the combination of work and taking care of our baby, I've found that I don't have the time right now to delve into a new hobby just yet.

I've solved my NB overheating problem by replacing the Thermalright HR-05 IFX NB cooler with a Noctua NC-U6.

The Thermalright is a good cooler, but the Noctua seems to be a bit more efficient, probably due to the dual heat pipes on it as opposed to the single one on the HR-05. It's, also, a bit more compact so I'm able to get a spot cooler closer to the sink. Attaching a fan to either sink was not an option because of space (my TRUE and the Patriot heat sinks get in the way.) NB temps went down by a whopping 6 degrees.

I really want that Bitspower NB/SB block though! Your set up looks awesome!

[Trigger5521]

Thanks for the offer, Trigger, but I've put my water cooling set up on hold atm. With the combination of work and taking care of our baby, I've found that I don't have the time right now to delve into a new hobby just yet.

I've solved my NB overheating problem by replacing the Thermalright HR-05 IFX NB cooler with a Noctua NC-U6.

The Thermalright is a good cooler, but the Noctua seems to be a bit more efficient, probably due to the dual heat pipes on it as opposed to the single one on the HR-05. It's, also, a bit more compact so I'm able to get a spot cooler closer to the sink. Attaching a fan to either sink was not an option because of space (my TRUE and the Patriot heat sinks get in the way.) NB temps went down by a whopping 6 degrees.

I really want that Bitspower NB/SB block though! Your set up looks awesome!

Hey congrats on the baby...we just had our second boy April 10th aswell. It's busy for sure with 2 young kids.

[Sangrak]

Hey congrats on the baby...we just had our second boy April 10th aswell. It's busy for sure with 2 young kids.

Ah. Congrats to you too!

[slim142]

Congrats to you two guys! No time for overclocking -> send your stuff to Slim xD

[joebloggs]

Hey guys, haven't posted in a while. I am still unable to get anything above 3ghz stable. I am blaming heat. A 40mm fan won't cut it, temps get around 57 and upwards and the pc freezes.

Anyways, I am going to watercool it and see what I can get then. I am thinking of the following kit:

-Swiftech Apogee GTZ
-XSPC Single Bay Res
-Laing 18w or D5 vario pump, whatever is in stock or you guys reccomend.
-Thermochil PA120.3 radiator With Noctua 120mm fans on it.
-Some feser anti corrosion coolant
-3/8" tubing, 1/2" OD. Because I don't want to use the whit plastic adapters that came with the board, so might as well make the whole loop 3/8".
-Some anti kink coils

I am not going to cool gfx cards.

The loop order will be as follows:

Res>Pump>CPU>NB>Rad>Res.

However, my concern is with the NB temperatures. If I will be pumping 1.6v (or thereabouts) into the cpu, then my NB temps will also suffer right? The whole point of watercooling this board is to get NB temps down. Can I run NB before the CPU? How much of a difference would it make do you guys think?


Also, I am going to use the Fusion block on the mobo. This is my 1st watercooled attempt, and don't want to modify too much on the board.

[Trigger5521]

Hey guys, haven't posted in a while. I am still unable to get anything above 3ghz stable. I am blaming heat. A 40mm fan won't cut it, temps get around 57 and upwards and the pc freezes.

Anyways, I am going to watercool it and see what I can get then. I am thinking of the following kit:

-Swiftech Apogee GTZ
-XSPC Single Bay Res
-Laing 18w or D5 vario pump, whatever is in stock or you guys reccomend.
-Thermochil PA120.3 radiator With Noctua 120mm fans on it.
-Some feser anti corrosion coolant
-3/8" tubing, 1/2" OD. Because I don't want to use the whit plastic adapters that came with the board, so might as well make the whole loop 3/8".
-Some anti kink coils

I am not going to cool gfx cards.

The loop order will be as follows:

Res>Pump>CPU>NB>Rad>Res.

However, my concern is with the NB temperatures. If I will be pumping 1.6v (or thereabouts) into the cpu, then my NB temps will also suffer right? The whole point of watercooling this board is to get NB temps down. Can I run NB before the CPU? How much of a difference would it make do you guys think?


Also, I am going to use the Fusion block on the mobo. This is my 1st watercooled attempt, and don't want to modify too much on the board.

Your temps will be fine for the NB with a triple rad. CPU or NB first won't make much difference.

Why are you planning 1.6v into CPU..that's REALLY high.

I have 1.6v going to the NB and it's idle at 42c-44c when water temp is 32c.
Load it stays under 50c.

[joebloggs]

Well, because it's a rough estimate of what I'll need for my overclock. I can just about get it stable at 3.6ghz with 1.58vcore. It's a bad chip I guess. When I get watercooling though, I can try to get the Q6600 faster or might even get a 45nm quad.

This chip needs 1.4vcore to reach 3.2ghz at the moment!

EDIT - Thanks for your response mate. Appreciate it!

[tekjunkie]

I finally got my system stable with 8 GB, I had to buy a pair of these to match up with the same 4Gb sticks that I have.But it took too much voltage to get there. I might have to try to get the voltages down.






The freaking FSB hole @1600 is killing me.

[Trigger5521]

Well, because it's a rough estimate of what I'll need for my overclock. I can just about get it stable at 3.6ghz with 1.58vcore. It's a bad chip I guess. When I get watercooling though, I can try to get the Q6600 faster or might even get a 45nm quad.

This chip needs 1.4vcore to reach 3.2ghz at the moment!

EDIT - Thanks for your response mate. Appreciate it!

Ahh Q6600 65nm Quad that explains it, she is gona get hot for sure at 1.6v. I assumed you had a newer 45nm quad.

[Trigger5521]

I finally got my system stable with 8 GB, I had to buy a pair of these to match up with the same 4Gb sticks that I have.But it took too much voltage to get there. I might have to try to get the voltages down.

The freaking FSB hole @1600 is killing me.

Nice tekjunkie 8GB is tough, looks like your NB and SB are getting really hot at 77c, amazing it went 8 hours in Prime.

I think you could come down on the CPU volts my Q9650 will do 4050mhz at 1.42(actual, 1.33 BIOS LLC enabled)...the trick for me to get 8GB stable in prime was 1.62v NB AND 2.06v MEM volts....more CPU volts was not helping me.

I hit a wall at 1840, Memtest 2 full passes, I can post and boot Vista at 4140mhz 1840FSB L&S but it's not prime95 stable. I have tried an ton of things but nothing is working...I think I have to find a magic CPU GTL combo.

What's weird is if I go even 1mhz above 1840 system will not post period, I tried a bazillon settings and never once got it to post above 1840.

[Trigger5521]

tekjunkie,

Here's my Q9650 8GB volts/settings etc... maybe it'll help.

Edit..Hurrmm cpu-z says 1.44..it's been reading 1.42 for the last few days all of a sudden it's 1.44 weird. Have to try dropping down one in BIOS and re stress test.

[tekjunkie]

Nice tekjunkie 8GB is tough, looks like your NB and SB are getting really hot at 77c, amazing it went 8 hours in Prime.

I think you could come down on the CPU volts my Q9650 will do 4050mhz at 1.42(actual, 1.33 BIOS LLC enabled)...the trick for me to get 8GB stable in prime was 1.62v NB AND 2.06v MEM volts....more CPU volts was not helping me.

I hit a wall at 1840, Memtest 2 full passes, I can post and boot Vista at 4140mhz 1840FSB L&S but it's not prime95 stable. I have tried an ton of things but nothing is working...I think I have to find a magic CPU GTL combo.

What's weird is if I go even 1mhz above 1840 system will not post period, I tried a bazillon settings and never once got it to post above 1840.

tekjunkie,

Here's my Q9650 8GB volts/settings etc... maybe it'll help.

Edit..Hurrmm cpu-z says 1.44..it's been reading 1.42 for the last few days all of a sudden it's 1.44 weird. Have to try dropping down one in BIOS and re stress test.

Your Q9650 is a better stepping(E0) than my QX9650(C0), hence your chip although multi locked would fair better @ higher FSBs/clocks.Also, I can't get this freaking thing to post @1600 RAM linked/synced for 400x9.5=same 3.8GHZ. I guess I would have to try harder. The wierd thing is I was one of the first ones with this board to do 4GHZ on my QX9650 with my 2GB GSkill BHZs(445x9), 12 hours prime stable with 1.375 Vcore with LLC, which I guess gives me 1.44 or thereabouts, on air.So my theory is that for core 2 quads, the way they have been architected(2 C2Ds stuck back to back), might have to do something with it(the more the RAM, the more Vcore it needs to be stable @the same speed). I could be wrong on this.

The voltage anomalies that you see if one of the main culprits of this board that leads to a lot of instablities. Guess what, just for the kicks, I rebooted with the same exact settings and ran prime again and it failed just after 2 hours on one of the cores, as it had dropped my vcore compared to the previous run of being 8 hours prime stable,with the same BIOS setting.It could be that the software that I am using that gives the vocre might be wrong,but I doubt and prime failing kinda confirms this. It's either the BIOS(software) or the PWM/power delivery(hardware).I was this close to tossing this board out and buying a good x48 board, so that I can swap my GTX 260 tri-sli to my Classified build and have the 4870x2+4890 crossfireX combo on the x48, but resisted it.The only reason that I am keeping this rig eventhough I am building an i7 rig is that I am planning to go water on my i7 build sometime and I wanted a high end backup gaming rig(air cooled) just in case something goes wrong(first time planning to go water and the thought itself scares the heck outta me).

[Trigger5521]

Your Q9650 is a better stepping(E0) than my QX9650(C0), hence your chip although multi locked would fair better @ higher FSBs/clocks.Also, I can't get this freaking thing to post @1600 RAM linked/synced for 400x9.5=same 3.8GHZ. I guess I would have to try harder. The wierd thing is I was one of the first ones with this board to do 4GHZ on my QX9650 with my 2GB GSkill BHZs(445x9), 12 hours prime stable with 1.375 Vcore with LLC, which I guess gives me 1.44 or thereabouts, on air.So my theory is that for core 2 quads, the way they have been architected(2 C2Ds stuck back to back), might have to do something with it(the more the RAM, the more Vcore it needs to be stable @the same speed). I could be wrong on this.

The voltage anomalies that you see if one of the main culprits of this board that leads to a lot of instablities. Guess what, just for the kicks, I rebooted with the same exact settings and ran prime again and it failed just after 2 hours on one of the cores, as it had dropped my vcore compared to the previous run of being 8 hours prime stable,with the same BIOS setting.It could be that the software that I am using that gives the vocre might be wrong,but I doubt and prime failing kinda confirms this. It's either the BIOS(software) or the PWM/power delivery(hardware).I was this close to tossing this board out and buying a good x48 board, so that I can swap my GTX 260 tri-sli to my Classified build and have the 4870x2+4890 crossfireX combo on the x48, but resisted it.The only reason that I am keeping this rig eventhough I am building an i7 rig is that I am planning to go water on my i7 build sometime and I wanted a high end backup gaming rig(air cooled) just in case something goes wrong(first time planning to go water and the thought itself scares the heck outta me).

Yeah I get weird changes on reboots myself.

Water is fun but there is alot to learn...do your homework and make certian 100% not too mix metals...no alu. That lesson cost me.

[slim142]

Ok hopefully is not too late
People with 100% stable system. 100% stable while gaming (specially with L4D)
Could you please post your BIOS settings?

[Trigger5521]

Ok hopefully is not too late
People with 100% stable system. 100% stable while gaming (specially with L4D)
Could you please post your BIOS settings?

It's never too late Slim..here's where I'm at.

Q9650 @4100mhz 8GB Patriot BIOS 1202

20 Passes of IBT
6.5 hours of Prime95 custom min 4096 max 4096(this test is tough)
6 hours Prime95 blend
OCCT 1 hour
super_pi 32m
Gaming is no problem, crysis, battlestations pacfic, COD4

BIOS Settings
Extreme Tweaker
CPU Level Up = Auto
Memory Level Up = Auto
AI Overclock Tuner = Manual
CPU Multiplier = 9.0
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Synced
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1822
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1822
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = 200
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 8
tRCD = 8
tRP = 8
tRAS = 22
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2T
tRRD = 1
tRFC = 110
rest auto

Over Voltage
(= Bios/actual as reported Everest Ultimate 5.0)
CPU Voltage = 1.331v /(1.42v everest & CPUz)
Loadline Calibration = Enabled
CPU PLL Voltage = 1.54v
CPU VTT voltage =1.32v
Memory Voltage = 2.08v
NB Core Voltage = 1.62v
SB Core Voltage = 1.55v
CPU GTL REF0 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF1 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF2 Ratio = Auto
CPU GTL REF3 Ratio = Auto
NB GTL REF Ratio = -10mv
DDR3 CHA1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB1 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHA2 Ref Volt = Auto
DDR3 CHB2 Ref Volt = Auto

CPU Configuration
CPU Internal Thermal Control = Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal = Disabled
Enhanced C1 (C1E) = Disabled while tweaking/Playing with this and C state for best power savings
CPU C STATE CAPABILITY = C4
Execute Disable Bit = Enabled
Virtualization Technology = Disabled
Enhanced Intel SpeedStep(tm) Tech. = Disabled while tweaking/Enable after stable
CPU Core 2 = Enabled
CPU Core 3 = Enabled
CPU Core 4 = Enabled

Spread Spectrum Control
CPU Spread Spectrum = Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
MCP PCIE Spread Spectrum = Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum = Disabled
LDT Spread Spectrum = Disabled

[slim142]

It's never too late Slim..here's where I'm at.

Im going to upgrade to BIOS 1202. I think 0901 already did all it could.
After that, I will leave the system running some fast benchies and see then see how gaming goes.

Thanks for the help man

[Sangrak]

Ok hopefully is not too late
People with 100% stable system. 100% stable while gaming (specially with L4D)
Could you please post your BIOS settings?

It's been pretty hot here lately, so I backed off my settings until I get around to water cooling. These are rock solid settings in 90 degree F weather, though.

Left4dead is awesome, btw. Need more maps, though.

CPU Multiplier = 9.0
FSB - Memory Clock Mode = Linked
FSB - Memory Ratio = Sync Mode
FSB (QDR) MHz = 1710
MEM (DDR) MHz = 1710
LDT Frequency = 5x
PCIE Bus Slot 1 & 2 MHz = 100
PCIE Bus Slot 3 MHz = 100
SPP<->MCP Ref Clock, MHz = Auto
SLI-Ready Memory = Disabled

Memory Timing Setting
P1 = Enabled
P2 = Enabled
tCL ( CAS Latency ) = 8
tRCD = 8
tRP = 8
tRAS = 22
Command Per Clock (CMD) = 2t
tRRD = 1
tRC = 31
tWR = 10
tWTR = Auto
tFAW = Auto
tRD = Auto
tRTP = Auto
tRFC = Auto
tREF = Auto

Over Voltage
CPU Voltage = 1.33750v
Loadline Calibration = Disabled
CPU PLL Voltage = Auto
CPU VTT voltage =1.26
Memory Voltage = 1.92
NB Core Voltage = 1.42
SB Core Voltage = 1.55v

On another note, how's the new baby going, Trigger?

[slim142]

Well for some reason my system is fully stable. However, after ~30mins of L4D it will freeze and I have to restart pressing the button. The first time is always ~30mins, 2nd time is always after ~1 hour.

Everything is stable but the game will just freeze. It never happened to me with Call of Duty 4 or WaW. Counter Strike also worked good. I have no idea...

Im on 1104 right now

[Sangrak]

Well for some reason my system is fully stable. However, after ~30mins of L4D it will freeze and I have to restart pressing the button. The first time is always ~30mins, 2nd time is always after ~1 hour.

Everything is stable but the game will just freeze. It never happened to me with Call of Duty 4 or WaW. Counter Strike also worked good. I have no idea...

Im on 1104 right now

Y'know, when L4D just came out, I was having freezing/sound loop problems with that game. It would be completely random. After 2 PSU's later, the numb skull I am, never checked the UPS that I had my system connected to. Turns out that the backup power supply went buh-bye. After I connected my system directly to the wall socket, the freezing went away.

Not sure if your problem is related to power to the gpu's, but the symptoms seem to be the same.

[slim142]

Y'know, when L4D just came out, I was having freezing/sound loop problems with that game. It would be completely random. After 2 PSU's later, the numb skull I am, never checked the UPS that I had my system connected to. Turns out that the backup power supply went buh-bye. After I connected my system directly to the wall socket, the freezing went away.

Not sure if your problem is related to power to the gpu's, but the symptoms seem to be the same.

Well isnt a 750TX enough for my setup? q9450 and 2 8800GT? I think thats enough but I also want to change the PSU because is loud.

However, Im starting to think this might be related to RAM overheat. Im also thinking it might be the videocards but I have also ran furmark for 20 mins and no problems at all. Im trying to figure out what Im going to do right now

[Trigger5521]

It's been pretty hot here lately, so I backed off my settings until I get around to water cooling. These are rock solid settings in 90 degree F weather, though.

Left4dead is awesome, btw. Need more maps, though.

On another note, how's the new baby going, Trigger?

Baby Luke is good thanks...growing well. Started at 6.3lbs now 8.9lbs after 6 weeks.

How's your little one?

[Trigger5521]

Well isnt a 750TX enough for my setup? q9450 and 2 8800GT? I think thats enough but I also want to change the PSU because is loud.

However, Im starting to think this might be related to RAM overheat. Im also thinking it might be the videocards but I have also ran furmark for 20 mins and no problems at all. Im trying to figure out what Im going to do right now

If it's your RAM overheating try the Corsair triple channel fan cooler. It moves a lot of air, I stuck temp sensors to the heat sinks inside and out side and my 4 sticks together are 35c with a room temp of 26c. They were easily 4-5c higher with my old OCZ cooler on there.

[slim142]

I will see if I buy it. Its a high price for a memory fan. Hopefully is just RAM overheat...

[Sangrak]

Baby Luke is good thanks...growing well. Started at 6.3lbs now 8.9lbs after 6 weeks.

How's your little one?

Mason is great. Never knew a having a baby would be so fulfilling. Would have had one sooner.