Gigabyte EX58-UD5/Extreme Discussion Thread

[ante_ante]

Thanks m8

[Splave]

whos going to guinea pig f5a for the extreme

[stasio]

One last try - need to re-load this up tonight...

Anyone have F4j or F4m for the UD5?

BIOS F4j and F4m for UD5,has not been released(for users).
Btw,
GA-EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F5b -in test
GA-EX58-UD5 BetaBIOS F5c -in test

[Splave]

whats the changes from f4m to f5a on the extreme?

[vega22]

whos going to guinea pig f5a for the extreme

i´m a big guinea pig.
No gain for me in F5a. The same performance as in F4m (mod), the same minimum Vcc. But sometimes soft-hangs in reboot. So, a little worse then.

[Splave]

i´m a big guinea pig.
No gain for me in F5a. The same performance as in F4m (mod), the same minimum Vcc. But sometimes soft-hangs in reboot. So, a little worse then.

thanks for the update

[Xello]

whos going to guinea pig f5a for the extreme

Been there, check a few pages back for results (flashed to f4m after 20 mins)

[vega22]

Been there, check a few pages back for results (flashed to f4m after 20 mins)

what is new is that i do not have now the hard restarts, freezes and bclk holes and walls that i had before, when i upgraded to F4, the same problems that rge had when he upgraded to F4 too and to F5a.
from today im setting by hand also some memory subtimings. Maybe this is the trick.

[ante_ante]

Is it negative to run HT off as 24/7 setting ?

[YukonTrooper]

Is the UD5/DS4 compatible with the PCI-e X-Fi Titanium? I see people with this card and the UD5 in their signature, but looking at pictures of the board, it doesn't look like the sound card would fit at all. The very most top slot is the PCI-e 1x slot, is it not? I'm just looking at the pin arrangement on the card and it looks like it would fit into the top slot. Or is it the second slot down, but the card doesn't use the whole slot?

[tonytiger]

You only need the uncore at twice the memory, have you tried just x12 UCLK with x6 mem?

Yes still getting problems.I may order another i7 920 soon.

[ReverendMaynard]

Is the UD5/DS4 compatible with the PCI-e X-Fi Titanium? I see people with this card and the UD5 in their signature, but looking at pictures of the board, it doesn't look like the sound card would fit at all. The very most top slot is the PCI-e 1x slot, is it not? I'm just looking at the pin arrangement on the card and it looks like it would fit into the top slot. Or is it the second slot down, but the card doesn't use the whole slot?

It will fit, and work in any of the PCIE slots. If you can, use the 1X (top) just to keep it clear of your viddy, but you could essentially install it on the 16x slots as well if that was what you needed to do.

[SteveRo]

Is it negative to run HT off as 24/7 setting ?

HT off still leaves you with 4 threads and with much lower temps for the same oc - very few apps can take advantage of 8 threads. I have not seen anyone else confirm this but for me - I saw no improvement in running 3Dmark06 with HT off vs HT on. I think HT off is a good thing for most apps. See this post -

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...03#post3525603

[jcool]

I have updated both EX58 rigs from F4J to F4M bios and can constitute the following:

- OC from F4J still stable
- added command rate option (0-3 lol.. only used 1 and 2 so far). 2 for all slots populated, 1 for 3 slots populated works fine for me
- RAID manager init maybe 2s faster, also it seems to do less "reboot loops" when changing settings
- slightly higher bandwidth when compared to F4J at identical settings
- F4M supposedly fixes some visualisation bug so taht's always a good thing
- Ram settings can now be keyed-in directly, helps but still annoying to set stuff for each channel individually
- voltages now turn pink if you get near "dangerous" voltages


That's about it, all in all I can recommend F4M over F4J as the best current bios for the Extreme. Haven't tried final F4 and F5a, as most people here seem to agree they suck.

[Brahmzy]

So I'm thinkingof getting this board or the DS4... what are the boot times for this board as far as POSTing/RAID pages?

I've heard there are long timeouts to wait through during the RAID init section? Even when using just the ICH10R?

[Hornet331]

Gigabyte was always slow with RAID, even on the intel controller.

On my MSI boards the raid initialization takes like 3 seconds on my past gb boards it always took ~10-15secs.

[burningrave101]

Anyone been testing with the stock Intel cooler? I'm using for a few days till I get my aftermarket cooler. I'm sitting at 20x180Mhz (3600Mhz) right now and my load temps in Realtemp are 87-88C running Prime Small FFTs. Seems pretty hot so don't know that I want to push it any more till I get better cooling installed.

[GAR]

Anyone been testing with the stock Intel cooler? I'm using for a few days till I get my aftermarket cooler. I'm sitting at 20x180Mhz (3600Mhz) right now and my load temps in Realtemp are 87-88C running Prime Small FFTs. Seems pretty hot so don't know that I want to push it any more till I get better cooling installed.

im on the stock cooler right now till i get a new heatsink, running at 3.36ghz, 21x160 with 1.120v full load is around 71c for the hottest core, and 65 for coolest.

[GAR]

Is the UD5/DS4 compatible with the PCI-e X-Fi Titanium? I see people with this card and the UD5 in their signature, but looking at pictures of the board, it doesn't look like the sound card would fit at all. The very most top slot is the PCI-e 1x slot, is it not? I'm just looking at the pin arrangement on the card and it looks like it would fit into the top slot. Or is it the second slot down, but the card doesn't use the whole slot?

Im running my X-FI on the top pci-e fine, also works on the very low pci-e slot as well.

[burningrave101]

Ok what's the deal guys. The board was working fine for me earlier and now it's started in on this fun reboot sequence every time it starts to load Vista. I was on BIOS f4m and I've loaded the Optimized defaults and shut down and rebooted and everything. It just keeps blue screening when loading Vista and restarts. It's also double restarting about half the time too. I've tried clearing the CMOS and even flashed to the f4j BIOS but didn't seem to fix the problem. It did something like this last night and so I reinstalled Vista Ultimate x64 again today and it fixed it and was working fine. Now it's doing it more than ever. Anyone found a fix for this problem?

[icecold316]

im on the stock cooler right now till i get a new heatsink, running at 3.36ghz, 21x160 with 1.120v full load is around 71c for the hottest core, and 65 for coolest.

What is your QPI Voltage ?

[safan80]

Thanks for those settings they didn't help.I think my 920 hates qpi/vtt higher than 1.180 .Now i am unsure if i need to try another 920 or another x58 board.I have pretty much given in and settled with 21x170 (3570mhz) seems to work fine ,i suppose thats not bad but i was hoping for much higher.I might wait to see if a better bios comes along but i don't think that will help,i guess some 920's have better yield unicore clocks than others.

are you getting a cold boot issue? try setting qpi/Vtt to auto. don't use LLC I had better sucess without it on this board.

[MarkJohnson]

Is the UD5/DS4 compatible with the PCI-e X-Fi Titanium? I see people with this card and the UD5 in their signature, but looking at pictures of the board, it doesn't look like the sound card would fit at all. The very most top slot is the PCI-e 1x slot, is it not? I'm just looking at the pin arrangement on the card and it looks like it would fit into the top slot. Or is it the second slot down, but the card doesn't use the whole slot?

That x1 port is useless as it runs right into the NB withing a few mms. You'd need a custom card that came with the board for anything to fit into that slot, like the DFI Berstien audio module. But at least you get a slot #1. DFI doesn;'t get a slot 1. Just 2 - 7. lol If you use your own sound card like me, then you get nothing for slot 1.

I think it's time for a new ATX standard. These board are getting smaller every time new techs come out. I see some 10-slot cases being made and I was hoping the larger 1033 CPUs were going to switch to a new 10-slot board, but apparently not. Hopefully someone has something up their sleve for a bigger board. SLI/Xfire x5 would be cool!

-=Mark=-

[stasio]

New BIOS:
GA-EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F5b
GA-EX58-UD5 BetaBIOS F5c
GA-EX58-UD4 BetaBIOS F3h
GA-EX58-DS4 BetaBIOS F5b

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/

Note: No Changelog yet

[safan80]

New BIOS:
GA-EX58-Extreme BetaBIOS F5b
GA-EX58-UD5 BetaBIOS F5c
GA-EX58-UD4 BetaBIOS F3h
GA-EX58-DS4 BetaBIOS F5b

http://forums.tweaktown.com/f69/giga...st-bios-28441/

Note: No Changelog yet

I just installed F5a.