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Looks like I have some bad ram ATM....just running mem test now, so far I have 2 bad sticks......What are others running for ram? I was looking that some OCZ Flex.......

The flexs are pretty good.. Also the New Balistic 8500's are suppose to clock nice.

So far ive had good results with Viper9600 microns),,Flex 9600 micron?,, Kinston Hyper X(micron ) and the Baliistics 8500,s(Qimonda?).

Ive let my brother use a bunch of Ram last week,, im down to Dominator 8500's(Micron)1140mhz max Phenom and Patriot Viper9600 1220mhz..and patriot 6400LLK 7200's(1040max) all 2x1gig kits. Dominators run decent to 1100 and need to be very loose to 1140. The Vipers and FlexII have run 1200+ stock timing depending on the Multi im using. Ive had//tried the Flexs9600's and Ballistic8500's as i have ordered them for friends ,,but have none for myself. They too run like a bat outa hell too. Im eying the new Gskills Black heatsink,, but waiting for price to drop.

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The Dominators have been the buggiest of all ram ive ever tested on Phenom Bioses. They wont Run Jdec 1.8v or be detected after a clear cmoos like all the Others. You mus thave Bios set to correct volts and if you clear Cmos youll have to install a nother brand to set the Voltage again . i ve tried numerouse sets to have the same thing happen. the ones that are the most stable are Micron based and still will not be detected unless Bios is 2.2v



Besides all that ... If you Bench Everst with 1066 and then swap the Ram for 800 while using Same Multi's and such you should see a Drop in performance. Especially if you are overclocking the NB..

1066mhz with lower latency or the same latency as 800mhz will perform much better than 800mhz . Every time ive ran 800 @ 5-5-5-15 then went to 1066 5-5-5-15 ive gained ,,speed ,, latency and bandwidth at same timing.

1066 mode or freqency is definatly working on this Mobo and CPU..What ive Noticed is that depending how you set the latency or timing depends on how you take advantage of this.

Same Clocks CPU/NB/HT and Ram MHZ,,onlything i changed is Unganged and Latency.

Ganged was the fastest to run ram with High Nb for me ,, Untill now. Once you can lower the Latency( Cas from 5 to 4 Unganged comes alive. This also means your Multi apps can run at thier Optimal. Bench marks will improve too.

SuperPi and Everest Ganged Stock latency VS Unganged LOW Latency @Same System clocks and settings,






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I know if i use Ganged @ the same 4-4-4-15 it be even faster but may be unstable @ high NB Time wise. Im showing what you can do by upping the performance of Unganged which many times you can USE lower latency more than Ganged . Why is this ? You can now use the two IMC's,,see having the the Dual IMC instead of the single is a hidden bonus if you know how to tweak it. This actually helps to keep things stable too. Its nice that Phenom actually has two IMC's using 64bit and or Both Conbined (locked) as a single using 128bit. You mise well use both IMC's . Ganged just locks them to use two lanes instead of 4. 4lanes will allways be better you just need to know how to get on the freeway

Think of it this way .

128 dual channel 1xIMC = Two,,128bit lanes.
64bit dual channel 2xIMC =Four ,,64bit lanes.

If this was a freeway ,,id rather have four lanes vs two. More efficient,, thus four lanes are more than two lanes despite the bits. Both hadle the same amount of bits and four lanes will handle more apps running at the same time vs two lanes . Two lanes which will have to work twice as hard for the same info as four.

Thats the best i can descibe Gnaged vs unganged and why lowering latency in Unganged can improve the system more and while actually keeping the load down on the IMC's.

Hope this was helpfull..

P.s. 1066 is running full speed on this Mobo and with Phenom.. Just swap the ram for 800 and rerun benches @ same timing and Clocks ,,youll see that