So who will be getting Phenom 2 right off the bat

[Nedjo]

just to make you all envy :p



if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

[donitsi]

just to make you all envy :p

Gsus, Nedjo!

[Rammsteiner]

I might be able to wait until RD890+SB800 comes around in 2H09.
Or not. I'm soooo bored with my Q6600.
No, AM2+ CPUs don't work in AM3 sockets.

Unless you're willing to wait for it and remain bored I'd suggest not to put all your money on RD890 though. If I remember my time waiting on SB750 boards... It took ages after I set my pre-order

In that case you'd better get an AM3 chip and set it on a cheap AM2+ board, there's quite a few cheap but quite decent options out there. In that time you can learn the Phenom a bit as well

Also when AM3 is out for a while you might see some better motherboards coming out, and if you wait for RD890 to be released also even more chance there's some good quality boards out like Asus ROG and DFI UT boards.

Some cheap options might be ECS's 790GX/SB750 board or their new 780G/SB750 board (I know it's 780G, but it has support upto 160W TDP, so quite good PWM load out there).

Or, like I do, get a Phenom AM2+ and get an AM2+ board, have loads of fun and just sit back slowly and upgrade when AM3 and RD890 are available. More expensive in the end I guess, but well, being impatient for the win/lose (depends how you look at it)

just to make you all envy :p

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2935/piiyf7.jpg

if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

Is that your CPU or what

[Nedjo]

Is that your CPU or what

Oh by all means no...




















... mine s even better (0843 BPMW)

[Oliverda]

Oh by all means no...

... mine s even better (0843 BPMW)

Could you please tell some words about it?

[charged3800z24]

Oh by all means no...
... mine s even better (0843 BPMW)

You know what... seeing your post is like going to a strip club.. you get all worked up for what ya see,.. and go home with nothing but your imagintaion.

[Jazzman]

I plan to buy once we know the best stepping. Can you specify stepping through NewEgg? If not who is the best online store for stepping specification?

[Oliverda]

just to make you all envy :p

if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

Congrats!

Benches? Experiences?

[Macadamia]

just to make you all envy :p

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2935/piiyf7.jpg

if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

Come on, don't be shy

[justapost]

just to make you all envy :p

if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

Must be hard to fullfill NDA with all those estimations flying around.

[soundood]

just to make you all envy :p

if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

(in a deep southern accent) why, you little....****

where were you hiding that? between your cheeks?

[Titan7171]

just to make you all envy :p



if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

sweet niblets! thats some good hinting right there.......on a side note that heatspreader sure does have some weird high edges for the heatsink to deal with......looks like it needs to be lapped

(in a deep southern accent) why, you little....****

where were you hiding that? between your cheeks?

which cheeks?

Didn't the Aussie place that had them listed briefly say the 16th December? Theres a uk place that has them listed now, £231 for the 940, £190 or so for the 920, and say the 15th December also, so maybe its out earlier than expected? It does make sense its "that" soon as the latest price drop was very very soon after the last price drop and looks to be clearing out the 9950's(which dropped to £130 in the uk yesterday from £150ish) leaving the field clear for a couple new phenom's to enter the market.

Almost certainly going to get one on release as long as prices aren't utterly ridiculous in the UK, which at £231 isn't exactly cheap compared to $300.

How are phenom's doing with fsb overclocking, I had a 9600BE ages ago and other than the board being a pain fsb overclocking was limited to say the list, are you screwing yourself by buying a non unlocked multi chip? I think what AMD really needs and can increase enthusiast sales a lot(if fsb clocking is an issue) is a lower end multi unlocked chip, or hell, make the whole range unlocked and maybe just make the black edition ultra binned chips or something if they must. Having to pay £230 to get a great clock with unlocked multi doesn't sound half as nice as paying £100 for a lower quad and overclocking the bejesus out of it.

fsb wise I got mine to about 275-280mhz on my MSI DKA790GX but it hardly made a difference and Im talking going from 200mhz to 280mhz
made a difference of a few milliseconds less in spi 1M where as moving the nb frequency and the HT link speed from 2000mhz to 2400mhz gave a difference of 1-2 seconds less in spi 1M.

I just wanted to make a correction in my above post about fsb. After going through my notes my increase in performance in spi 1m going from 2000mhz to 2400mhz was actually .300 less not 1-2 seconds. I got a decrease of 1-2 seconds from a combination of fsb/nb frequency/ht link/timings and AOD green button. These all contributed to a 1-2 second decrese in spi 1M.....biggest factor in it though was the actual cpu speed. but thats for spi 1M now in Sandra memory Bandwidth going from 2000mhz to 2400mhz my score went from

INT 11,796 to 12,981
Float 11,809 to 13,014

about 1,200mb increase from a 400mhz increase in HT and NB.

[BertM]

i will buy the 940 as quickly as possible and put it in my dq6 + watercooling.
if the dq6 fails to oc, i will buy a 750sb board.
im not gonna wait for a little bit more bandwidth and 5% more fps on am3 boards.

[drunkenmaster]

[QUOTE=Titan7171;3468569]
fsb wise I got mine to about 275-280mhz on my MSI DKA790GX but it hardly made a difference and Im talking going from 200mhz to 280mhz
made a difference of a few milliseconds less in spi 1M where as moving the nb frequency and the HT link speed from 2000mhz to 2400mhz gave a difference of 1-2 seconds less in spi 1M.


QUOTE]


I was less worried about performance from actually running the fsb high but more wondering how far you could push a lower clocked cheaper non black edition chip if you're limited to overclocking on the fsb, rather than the multiplier.

I really think AMD will get a well obviously not lots of business, but a lot of enthusiasts would considering AMD which gets their name out a little more and more people talking about them, if you could pick up there cheapest quad and clock the hell out of it. IE a 2.2Ghz £100 quad that you can whack the multi up and run at 4Ghz if you want/can. Back to the good old multiplier unlocked as standard days, frankly when they've had completely unlocked multipliers is when more people play with them and their name is seen more often on forums all over.


The 2.8Ghx 920 isn't much of a saving, though £40 isn't bad, if it could fairly easily do 280Mhz at a 14multiplier, thats not at all bad, but a 2.2Ghz quad at 280Mhz wouldn't be quite as good.

[mongoled]

I was less worried about performance from actually running the fsb high but more wondering how far you could push a lower clocked cheaper non black edition chip if you're limited to overclocking on the fsb, rather than the multiplier.

I really think AMD will get a well obviously not lots of business, but a lot of enthusiasts would considering AMD which gets their name out a little more and more people talking about them, if you could pick up there cheapest quad and clock the hell out of it. IE a 2.2Ghz £100 quad that you can whack the multi up and run at 4Ghz if you want/can. Back to the good old multiplier unlocked as standard days, frankly when they've had completely unlocked multipliers is when more people play with them and their name is seen more often on forums all over.


The 2.8Ghx 920 isn't much of a saving, though £40 isn't bad, if it could fairly easily do 280Mhz at a 14multiplier, thats not at all bad, but a 2.2Ghz quad at 280Mhz wouldn't be quite as good.

** TOTALLY OFF TOPIC **
But great to see an XS old timer back posting



Welcome back dude

[Macadamia]

fsb wise I got mine to about 275-280mhz on my MSI DKA790GX but it hardly made a difference and Im talking going from 200mhz to 280mhz
made a difference of a few milliseconds less in spi 1M where as moving the nb frequency and the HT link speed from 2000mhz to 2400mhz gave a difference of 1-2 seconds less in spi 1M.

I was less worried about performance from actually running the fsb high but more wondering how far you could push a lower clocked cheaper non black edition chip if you're limited to overclocking on the fsb, rather than the multiplier.

I really think AMD will get a well obviously not lots of business, but a lot of enthusiasts would considering AMD which gets their name out a little more and more people talking about them, if you could pick up there cheapest quad and clock the hell out of it. IE a 2.2Ghz £100 quad that you can whack the multi up and run at 4Ghz if you want/can. Back to the good old multiplier unlocked as standard days, frankly when they've had completely unlocked multipliers is when more people play with them and their name is seen more often on forums all over.


The 2.8Ghx 920 isn't much of a saving, though £40 isn't bad, if it could fairly easily do 280Mhz at a 14multiplier, thats not at all bad, but a 2.2Ghz quad at 280Mhz wouldn't be quite as good.

That's what the X3 720 is for. Cheaper unlocked OCing.

Well, you also have a Athlon X4 series @2.7Ghz for cheap, probably cheaper than the X3 720 as naming nomenclature/model naming goes.

Hopefully AMD will release a 3Ghz or 3.2Ghz 45nm dual core later, if unlocked will be even perkier.

[biohead]

just to make you all envy :p

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/2935/piiyf7.jpg

if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

yeah i was about to ask, how is that foxconn 790gx board.. A7DA-S right? it seems perfect to me, but i haven't really found conclusive evidence on its overclocking potential and BIOS options. Does anyone here have this board to give some input? It's dirt cheap in comparison, and that's a great selling point.

[crazydiamond]

yeah i was about to ask, how is that foxconn 790gx board.. A7DA-S right? it seems perfect to me, but i haven't really found conclusive evidence on its overclocking potential and BIOS options. Does anyone here have this board to give some input? It's dirt cheap in comparison, and that's a great selling point.

i posted this in the 'best phonom mobo' thread..

i have this board. it lacks some bios options but has still been great. i am running my 9850 right now in vista 64 at 15.5x200 3.1ghz with 1.36vcore prime stable with max temps 45-47c , and i can get it stable up to around 3.4 range with 1.48vcore max temps 53-55c (ran it for awhile @ 14x240 3.36ghz 1.48vcore - could go 3.4 if i loosened my ram timings - thats w/ ht and nb multi's @ 10 so they were both 2400)

i cant decide if i want to get a new board or use this one when this new wonder chip gets released

hope this helps, pm me if you have any specific q's

[Aquineas]

just to make you all envy :p

You suck. I hope you drop your cellphone in the toilet :-).

(kidding)

I'll order one as soon as I can; I'm putting my 9850 in a Linux box that's waiting for it and the PHII (pronounced fee?) will be my primary desktop for 2009. Come summer of 2010, it'll be time for the next upgrade... I may at that time get an Intel system if AMD hasn't come back around..

[EnisDonKing]

just to make you all envy :p

if I told you that Foxconn's 790GX mobo don't even recognize CPU properly with latest BIOS but overclock it like crazy, I think you would want to go for this awesome blacky

I think we have another A7DA-S board waiting for tomorrow's testing session

[Lightman]

I'm getting 940BE ASAP!!

I just hope to get it before Christmas, because otherwise I will have little time to test new toy properly...