The Maximus Formula Thread - Help/OCing/Guide/Rampage conversion

[zlojack]

Dropped everything from 9x425 to 9x400 temps did not move.

This is dissapointing I was hoping for some results. Going to lap the chip in the morning or maybe later tonight when the ball'n chain goes to bed.
Worst case I grab a nice new PA120.3 rad to replace my questionable Swiftec 220 rad, now if I can only manage a mountain mods case to go with my new rad
Rock solid at 3.8GHz, just need to get the temps down ALOT

I'd love to grab a PA120.3 and a MM Horizon so I say go for it! That way I can live vicariously!

[Grnfinger]

I'd love to grab a PA120.3 and a MM Horizon so I say go for it! That way I can live vicariously!

The PA120.3 is a go, I just need to justify the need for a new case.
I will mull this over while I grab a cool refreshing beverage

[ZenEffect]

The PA120.3 is a go, I just need to justify the need for a new case.
I will mull this over while I grab a cool refreshing beverage

honestly, i regret lapping the cpu as it did not help my thermals much. adding that pa120.3 will drop temps the most. i would recommend using both radiators before the cpu as that was what i found to be the best setup. i bet you will see a drastic drop in temps after that. plus, if you have both radiators, you will NEED a new case to house them both

[zlojack]

The PA120.3 is a go, I just need to justify the need for a new case.
I will mull this over while I grab a cool refreshing beverage

What flavour of beverage

I would be all over the MM Horizon, but I just finished painting and building and cable-modding my Armor...so it has to last for a while.

Dual rad, dual loop for you sounds about right Grnfinger.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Thanks for the tips.

Right now I'm at 486x7 @ 1.488VCore (REAL, one notch past 1.5000V in BIOS) with this E6300 and I can't get stable any higher without fairly big increases in voltage (from what I've tried so far). I don't think it's my RAM holding me back at all since I've got G.Skill 2GBHZ's (D9GMH) which are rated for DDR2-800 running @ DDR2-972

Although I don't know which setting is for setting a FSB/RAM divider, which is it?

I had to drop to 6x for 525+ to 533. it looks like drop in clock but made up for it big time in FSB and RAM. If you have good DDR800, it should get you 1000~1066 on 2.22v and 5-5-5-15(18). For me 532x6 was stable. w/ RAM in 1:1 DDR1066.
I think I had to go over barely 1.51v (actual). 515x6 was cool for 1.488v. I heard of some on this chipset going to 550, but I never tried yet. I dont even have it anymore.

[Moneyless]

I had to drop to 6x for 525+ to 533. it looks like drop in clock but made up for it big time in FSB and RAM. If you have good DDR800, it should get you 1000~1066 on 2.22v and 5-5-5-15(18). For me 532x6 was stable. w/ RAM in 1:1 DDR1066.
I think I had to go over barely 1.51v (actual). 515x6 was cool for 1.488v. I heard of some on this chipset going to 550, but I never tried yet. I dont even have it anymore.

I'll try pushing some more with a 6x multi next time I reboot.

But the biggest problem is that I get horrible temps since it's always hot here (my mom loves central heating), so right now my load temps are about 60-62C w/ my water cooling setup...

[zlojack]

Damn Grnfinger, it looks like my new QX9650 is in the same boat as your quad.

Ridiculously high temps for reasonable volts.

I've reseated 3 times and still the same BS. I can get 4.0GHz no problem at 1.38v, but the temps are over 70*!!!

I need to find out what the problem is.

[TouGe]

Anybody got this wierd error :

CPU core to bus ratio or VID configuration has failed.
Press F1 ( bios )
Press F2 load defaults

I press F1 then , in bios i press ESC and quit with no saving .
When i reset the pc no more error , got these only with a cold boot ...

I get this error everytime I boot my computer w/ DRAM timmings/speeds requiring more than 1.90V. For some reason the BIOS resets my DIMM to 1.90V everytime I cold boot. If I hit "F1" and then exit the BIOS screen my computer boots fine.

[panfist]

Hey, I'm back, sorry to clog the thread with redundant questions but I'm having a lot of trouble searching.

I found out where I can apply a multimeter to measure the Vdimm, but I was wondering if anyone could show me where to measure some other values. I'm especially interested in Vcore, and Vnb, but I'd really like to know where to measure pretty much anything else. I think this information should definitely be in the first post.

Secondly, I've been trying to use the Asus AI Suite but if I use the AI Gear feature my computer just hangs. That's a stock speeds and auto voltage. It's not very important but it would be nice to be able to switch between performance and power saving without rebooting.

[CadESin]

Can someone please advise me if the Rampage worths an extra 35€ over the price of the Maximus ?!

I'm in a dilema .... Maximus or Rampage ? Is really any diference between x38 and x48 ? I will use my Q6600 G0 on it. Thanks.

On NewEgg its only a $30 diffrence, at that cost I would get the X48 for the better bios without having to flash a Maximus to a Rampage

Secondly, I've been trying to use the Asus AI Suite but if I use the AI Gear feature my computer just hangs.

Are you useing XP or Vista?

I have never liked any kind of OS based overclocking tools, something about useing anything that uses something Microsoft made to make changes to your hardware gives me the shivers.

found out where I can apply a multimeter to measure the Vdimm, but I was wondering if anyone could show me where to measure some other values. I'm especially interested in Vcore, and Vnb, but I'd really like to know where to measure pretty much anything else. I think this information should definitely be in the first post.

Wish I could help there, but I have no clue where to even start. I personally trust whatever cpuz / bios info tells me.

[Nuckin_Futs]

Wow, looks like ASUS finally answered our request for quad core GTL, well on the P5E3 x48 at least. Any word if it is available for thrue Rampage Formula and if so can the hack provide same for our MF SE as well?

Any word on S3 function on BETA v1006 yet, anybody?

I am waiting for an ROG on X48 w/ DDR3 if not I will just spring for the P5E3 Premium (DDR3). I think I can beat my my Gigabyte P35 of its 480x8 in 1:2 of DDR3-1920. P5E3 is sporting 2000MHz out the box so 2100 isn't so far now.

[antari]

I've just got a new P5E in my system. Does the Rampage Formula BIOS help with vDroop issues? That would be the main reason for me to cross-flash.

[vikings]

How can I use ADH connectors?
In maximus manual there is not any explanation. WHY?
Also there isn't about front panel audio connectors (supreme fxII).
Anyone can give me help?

Thank you.

[Grnfinger]

honestly, i regret lapping the cpu as it did not help my thermals much. adding that pa120.3 will drop temps the most. i would recommend using both radiators before the cpu as that was what i found to be the best setup. i bet you will see a drastic drop in temps after that. plus, if you have both radiators, you will NEED a new case to house them both

I think your right, cant get 2 rads in a Thermaltake Soprano
Would there be any benifit in changing my loop order now with the 220 rad?
Current loop is pump>CPU>NB>GPU>RAD>RES
Comments or suggestions.....

Damn Grnfinger, it looks like my new QX9650 is in the same boat as your quad.

Ridiculously high temps for reasonable volts.

I've reseated 3 times and still the same BS. I can get 4.0GHz no problem at 1.38v, but the temps are over 70*!!!

I need to find out what the problem is.

Let me know if you improve temps any, this is getting to me, my ambiant air is 18c and the quad is idle at 52c on 1.45 volts

[Pipeman597]

You might get a little improvement with pump>RAD>CPU>NB>GPU>RES as the pump adds a little heat to loop.

[Grnfinger]

You might get a little improvement with pump>RAD>CPU>NB>GPU>RES as the pump adds a little heat to loop.

Thanks I will try that

[panfist]

Are you useing XP or Vista?

XP 32-bit.

I don't know if it's just marketing-speak but ASUS' says that AI Gear "accesses all of the motherboards power saving features." This makes me wonder...do I have access to all of the power saving features unless I use AI Gear? I wish this software a.) didn't crash, b.) didn't suck and c.) had some actual documentation.

I've just got a new P5E in my system. Does the Rampage Formula BIOS help with vDroop issues? That would be the main reason for me to cross-flash.

I would like to know the answer to this, too. I've been digging around but it's hard to find out exactly what the benefits would be of converting my P5E.

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One more question, I'm thinking of upgrading my RAM from 2x1GB. Is this board more comfortable with 2x2GB or 4x1GB? I would probably be running ddr2 800MHz ram, CL4, somewhere in between 400-440MHz in 1:1 timing.

[zlojack]

I think your right, cant get 2 rads in a Thermaltake Soprano
Would there be any benifit in changing my loop order now with the 220 rad?
Current loop is pump>CPU>NB>GPU>RAD>RES
Comments or suggestions.....



Let me know if you improve temps any, this is getting to me, my ambiant air is 18c and the quad is idle at 52c on 1.45 volts

I hear you. My ambients are about the same. My first loop is res>pump>rad>cpu>nb

When I remount everything, I'm going to check the flatness of both the Fuzion and the IHS and see what kind of contact I'm getting.

[trt740]

See my sig, and read my POST. I cant say for sure it's the best, but it sure is nice for decent 1200MHz, But it can really benifit from good cooling. And the light show is awsome.


I wouldn't say that. If anything, this mobo offers the best your E6300 can get. It can make the cheapest CPU's feel good. for example, 532FSB in 1:2 gives you 1066 RAM. I think we have higher dividers so you can get more on less FSB if your CPU lags. I got that on my P5WDG2-WS Pro so imagine how this mobo will do. Those E6300's were quite the clockers when it came to high FSB, Almost all 500+. I'd stick to stable official v0602 untill we hear better. This offers the best of ACPI support at 500FSB and is more then modern enough for an E6300. I can only say BETA v1004 is good for RAM tweaks w/ 2x 2g kits and less vdimm, but S3/STR does not work, so it's a trade off. Do not flash in Live Update to these newer BETA BIOS as they are often getting corrupted. Use Afudos for safest results, or EZ-Flash for official BIOS.

I have it mine is currently running at 1304Mhz at 2.26v on the maximus formula ive had it up close to 1400Mhz all at 5-5-5-15 2T timimgs.

The reason i asked is look at this review a guy wrote on the EGG is there compatabilty trouble with it at all


DOA


Pros: blinking lights are beautiful

Cons: Does not work with a X38 board

Other Thoughts: Be aware these sets have compatibility problems with X38 chipset, just search on Google for that. I have an ASUS Maximus Formula and there is no way I can make this memory work. Lots of error on Memtest86+ no matter what frequency, voltage or settings I use...

[trt740]

The reason i asked is look at this review a guy wrote on the EGG is there compatabilty trouble with it at all


DOA


Pros: blinking lights are beautiful

Cons: Does not work with a X38 board

Other Thoughts: Be aware these sets have compatibility problems with X38 chipset, just search on Google for that. I have an ASUS Maximus Formula and there is no way I can make this memory work. Lots of error on Memtest86+ no matter what frequency, voltage or settings I use...

I bought them from clubit.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820148069

[Da_maniaC]

Hey...something i always wondered...

Is there a way to retreive information from the temperature sensors of the harddrives when they are in a RAID array?

[antari]

I've just got a new P5E in my system. Does the Rampage Formula BIOS help with vDroop issues? That would be the main reason for me to cross-flash.

Anyone?

Also, what kind of vMCH is needed for running 8GB at 1066?

[dimsdale]

I know it's a little OT, but can anyone suggest a sound card to use with my MF board? I've been using a Soundblaster Audigy ZS, but every now and then it just flakes out and makes nasty buzzing noises, plus it makes pops here and there.
Only requirement: Not more than about $150 and NO CREATIVE LABS!
Any suggestions appreciated!

[Da_maniaC]

How about an M-audio Audiophile?

They should come around that price (at least over here they do).

Personally im not all for internal sound cards just because i know how much different the noise level and sound quality are with decent external ones.

But if you want something internal M-audio is the way to go.
(EAX HD not supported though i think, i guess Creative Audio has a copyright on that).

[panfist]

How about an M-audio Audiophile?

They should come around that price (at least over here they do).

Personally im not all for internal sound cards just because i know how much different the noise level and sound quality are with decent external ones.

But if you want something internal M-audio is the way to go.
(EAX HD not supported though i think, i guess Creative Audio has a copyright on that).

I don't know very much about motherboards but I do know a bit about sound cards.

I really hate creative based on their vista drivers and the way they squashed the third party vista drivers, but if you want to play games with EAX creative is pretty much your only choice. I would suggest this card by auzentech
which is basically a creative chip stuck on a seriously high end sound card. The creative brand cards are not nearly as good as this guy when it comes to analog output and input.

The Audiophile is an excellent card but you're limited to 4 channels. The quality on those 4 channels will be pretty much the best you can get, but it's really designed more for a musician than a gamer or a home theater watcher. If all you need is 2 channel output, this sound card will be great. You won't get EAX but who cares, that pretty much makes your games sound like they're filtered through wet farts anyway. I dunno if it's just me but I would rather hear unadulterated sound effects.

For the best sound quality of every day applications like listening to mp3s, divx movies or games, you will want a card that has the best signal to noise ratio you can get. That's SNR, and the higher the better. If you are going to be watching hi-def movies and connecting to your own decoder system then as long as your sound card has digital out and 5.1 or 7.1 you will be all set.