Phenom 9500 w/ MSI K9A2 Platinum

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That lady in your av is making me look at her...

Congrats now go for 10k Mem read an 100k L1 read.
I'm happy if I can reach ~8k here.

Problem is BIOS. We don't have a BIOS which runs plus 1:2 divider without big RAM/IMC performance penalty, even when the AOD red button is chosen. What I had when I ran 520 5-5-5-5 2T 15tRC 59MAL 1.9G NB with my 9500 is still higher than these new BIOSes give with 600 4-5-5-15 2T tRC11 MAL51 2.5G NB.

On this BIOS, oc is harder since you're limited to 2.66 RAM divider and the lowest RAM timings available are 4-5-5-15-12 and only 2.5V which is 2.41V real. Furthermore, NB does not boot over 2.596G and while it's easy to get that alone (high volts/cooling), you can't have high CPU, high NB and high RAM clocks with low timings synchronously -> you need monstrous voltage on all of them and loose timings. And to make it worse, all the new BIOSes don't allow over 2.5V DIMM and all give me only 4-5-5-5-15 as the lowest timings at 2.66 divider. Even worse, my chip can't do plus 250 HT ref. so I'm stuck at max 500. That's why I revert to the older BIOS, it has far better performance although only 1:2 RAM divider.
My RAM is 800 3-2-2-1 at 2.0V, 1000 3-4-4-4 at 2.2V, 1200 4-4-4-4 PL5 tRFC35 10-10 at 2.2V and 1325 5-5-5-15 PL5 at 2.35V already verified on 3 different Intel P35 boards. With Phenom/790Fx, plus 1220 hasn't booted up even with 2.5V at 6-5-5-15 and 2G NB.

Here's some trial runs for you with different RAM latency/speed. Look at the trend...
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That last Sandra would've been over 9800 in EVEREST Ganged but it was very hard to get stable and Sandra is tough on the RAM too, loads everything full so it fails quick with a little instability.

100k L1 is not possible with this chip, volts needed are too high, above air cooling and it needs plus 2.95G, which this chip won't do sub 1.53V.

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That lady in your av is making me look at her...

twice

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Shes looks like someone I know from Cali. called Jaymie, that's why.
She has a pic that was taken in her car as she sat in the drivers wearing the seatbelt and that one looked similar.

Here's another plus 9.7k EVEREST read at different clocks, found it on the 2nd drive, must have saved it whilst messing around.



Phenom doesn't boot plus 626MHz RAM, no matter what volts/latencies/cooling (plus zero), it just BSODs at Windows load-up. With RAM that is known to run this flawless at 2.3V.

I'm not afraid to turn the NB up a little now, not trying to be a wimp, but with the reviews I've been reading about B3 this chip might have to last me until the 45nm parts come out...

1.3VID? Should be easily safe if temps stay good. However, have you tried to see if VID actually changes when moved up and down one notch?

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1.3VID? Should be easily safe if temps stay good. However, have you tried to see if VID actually changes when moved up and down one notch?

Yep, according to AMD Hardware Monitor it does..
Man you've been so much help, I really appreciate it!

I'm testing @ 1.30 (VID=20) on the CPU/NB right now. Actually booted at HT REF of 260, it's never done that before..

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That lady in your av is making me look at her...

Me too...

Well... macci said that too?...hehe... back in nforce2 days we used to play with sandra bandwith memory efficiency. We got higher memory bandwith effeciency when the cpu clock higher....