Phenom 9500 w/ MSI K9A2 Platinum

[KTE]

Phenom no POST after clear CMOS

Well, well. My Phenom did not POST for over 24hrs. This is very abnormal, I was about to return it because this is the exact problem my older BE had and I really do get sick of it. I wonder why this occurs?
None of the 9500/9600s had it though on the same board with the same BIOS. I had phoned my uncle to drop it off Saturday after trying everything which usually worked with the last BE.
The error started when I chose 1066 mode. It failed POST, so I had to clear CMOS. That's it, after that it was stuck in a reboot loop.

So how was it fixed? Ironically, you had to go subzero AND take the chip out of the socket and reinsert it to fix it. Stuck the chip under -20C ice in a plastic bag inside a tub within a -31C refrigeration unit. Booted without HSF on, and here is the IHS temp after the first successful bootup at ambient 27C (HSF still disconnected):



Yep, it took roughly -10C - 2C BIOS temps to boot it up and that's when it was coming back to ambient. After that I could reinsert everything but using AMD stock cooler, I haven't put any more paste on it and now the stock temperatures are 8-10C higher.

Achim: Ganged mode is fastest for single threaded applications and unganged mode is fastest for multi-threaded applications.

Here's Ganged Vs. Unganged mode at stock (little tweaked timings for you to compare). AOD button = Red.

Unganged DCT Mode Vs. Ganged DCT Mode
(Click for full detail screenshots)

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[Hosser]

KTE... Cheers mate. I'll drop that back down to 9x then. I thought 13x was default!

EDIT: KTE you're a legend; reverted to x9 and speeds are reported correctly by all apps now.

Stable* at 2.62!!

When I say stable, I mean it plays HL2, Portal, Crysis and Call of Duty 4 for a few hours each just fine. And that was with the x13 multi. I'll leave it on tonight Priming away just to be sure though; since this machine is used for work sometimes too, I don't want it crashing when there's the potential to lose unsaved data.

[informal]

Good results Hosser and great work KTE(glad your Phenom system is back up amongst the living ).

Hosser,try latest orthos edition,it has build in multicore stress-test.

[justapost]

Phenom no POST after clear CMOS

Well, well. My Phenom did not POST for over 24hrs. This is very abnormal, I was about to return it because this is the exact problem my older BE had and I really do get sick of it. I wonder why this occurs?
None of the 9500/9600s had it though on the same board with the same BIOS. I had phoned my uncle to drop it off Saturday after trying everything which usually worked with the last BE.
The error started when I chose 1066 mode. It failed POST, so I had to clear CMOS. That's it, after that it was stuck in a reboot loop.

So how was it fixed? Ironically, you had to go subzero AND take the chip out of the socket and reinsert it to fix it. Stuck the chip under -20C ice in a plastic bag inside a tub within a -31C refrigeration unit. Booted without HSF on, and here is the IHS temp after the first successful bootup at ambient 27C (HSF still disconnected):



Yep, it took roughly -10C - 2C BIOS temps to boot it up and that's when it was coming back to ambient. After that I could reinsert everything but using AMD stock cooler, I haven't put any more paste on it and now the stock temperatures are 8-10C higher.

Lol, how did you get the idea putting the cpu in the refrigerator?

Achim: Ganged mode is fastest for single threaded applications and unganged mode is fastest for multi-threaded applications.

Here's Ganged Vs. Unganged mode at stock (little tweaked timings for you to compare). AOD button = Red.

[center]Unganged DCT Mode Vs. Ganged DCT Mode
(Click for full detail screenshots)

Thx, but I can not compare my max 11x multi cpu results with those 11,5 ones.

Here are my results at 2,2GHz with identical memory timings.

[KTE]

@KTE......Hey have you had any issues with AMD overdrive if the Bios itself is configured for you're overclock? After installing new Bios last night I wated to see if there was any AMD Overdrive support added into the Bios for it so I installed it with optimized defaults set rebooted and upon boot Desktop froze and had to do a manual restart so after about 3 reboots and opening and closing of the program I set the Bios to my O.C Settings and when reaching desktop after a few minutes I open AMD Overdrive and its fine so I start Priming with it open and am on the forum with that in the Back ground and it Blue Screens on me this sh@t has been consistent with this board and this program Lock ups . BSOD while in Windows and just flaky behavior in general

So the Million dollar question is do any of you have a problem using this program at anything other than optimized defaults set in Bios?

BTW at no time have I ever used this thing other than to monitor temps or view settings never used it to make changes to Bios what so ever!

Please give me some feedback on this as I wish to submit info to DFI for Feedback on issues with Bios and I would say this is one of them and its been present since I have owned the Board and I have tried all versions with no success and was currently using Latest Beta.

I don't open AOD, hardly, because it calls the PLL and RD790 chipset and those will and can lockup, freeze, reboot your system. They do this a lot, so I avoid it because I absolutely loathe it happening!

That's one of the bad things because I'd like to change AOD TLB caching button from green to red, but I can never open it most of the time which gives low memory performance.

However, I can oc and change memory/voltage timings with it quite OK many times with oc'd BIOS settings. Most of the time though, AOD starts at stock and then it has to load your current clocks... that's when it'll fail. Not with low MHz, with only high MHz.

Try it-> set like 100MHz above stock CPU speed from the BIOS and bootup. Start AOD... does it work?
Then increase the MHz at bootup... the higher you go, the buggier it gets and the freeze/lockup is when the PLLs are fluctuating highly actually.

Lol, how did you get the idea putting the cpu in the refrigerator?

Do it all the time in some sealing and insulation.

Thx, but I can not compare my max 11x multi cpu results with those 11,5 ones.

Here are my results at 2,2GHz with identical memory timings.

Those RAM/L3 are directly comparable, they're the same NB/RAM.
The L1/L2 caches aren't comparable because my CPU is 100MHz faster.
I'll run some 200x11 today and post here.

However you only ran one single threaded bench which doesn't support Phenom fully yet. Try and run Sandra/WinRAR as it supports Phenom multi-threaded memory access and that'll show the real bandwidth of Phenom better. Unganged will perform better than Ganged in multi-thread, EVEREST can't be used to show the real bandwidth but can be used to show the single-threaded memory bandwidth.

[Brother Esau]

So basically AMD Overdrive is just a Piece of Sh**t then?

[gOtVoltage]

Yup Burrrrrrp...many beers later i use AOD for just viewing my Bios stats and nothing more!