P4EE @ 4.1G vapochilled action!

**ALT-F13** · 10-28-2003, 05:57 AM

La1kr0diZ started the thread about benching on P4EE: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...hreadid=21538. So, here we'll post information about phase-change experience with it

Well, just flashed .1010 bios to get EE to work. This is just the first stability tests done at 475/384 GeiL GT2 R9800Pro. Haven't uploaded the score (writing this from second rig) and now will start to bench in more or less "battle mode"... Anyway:

Max. stable benching clocks: 4100MHz @ 1.775V
Max. bootable clocks: 4250 or some...

So, here comes 3DMark2001 (remember the card clocks!): 25056 on first run!!! Lobbys are about 370/170 (Lo/Hi). In an hour or two i'll post more interesting results...

JC, how do i understand you now! We both have overkill CPU and cr*ppy vidcard... Mine could do some like 515/385 with +5C ambient temp and 2.0V Vgpu, so there is not much room for improvement

**kromosto** · 10-28-2003, 06:02 AM

nice very nice

**JCviggen** · 10-28-2003, 06:10 AM

I ran 475/378 something like that for 25500

**La1kr0diZ** · 10-28-2003, 06:19 AM

i cant wait to plug my hardware into this monster

**ALT-F13** · 10-28-2003, 06:38 AM

Woohoo!!! CPU @ 4140, 495/395... 25796!!!

STAY TUNED!

**La1kr0diZ** · 10-28-2003, 07:28 AM

ok 26106 and running

**sexsymbol** · 10-28-2003, 07:36 AM

These P4 EE look great!!
Which mobo are you using Asus or Abit?? To make them work you simply need to flash the new bios??
Thanks

**Soulburner** · 10-28-2003, 07:50 AM

We all know you can't compare Intel to AMD so lets please not start a war here....AMD chips do 9IPC and Intel does 6IPC not to mention the completely different architecture so there will be differences in how they do things. There is more than one way to make a processor.

**macci** · 10-28-2003, 07:56 AM

still funniy its taking a $900 cpu and 4.xghz to match a 2.4ghz A64 IMO

Your card clocks on that 2.4GHz run were 'a bit' higher thou

**JCviggen** · 10-28-2003, 08:01 AM

The only thing that bums me is that there will never be many EEs, very likely never publicly for sale even

**macci** · 10-28-2003, 08:08 AM

@modlabs team,
whats the max CPU multi on that thing? 17?
If its 17 or higher try this:
boot system up at 200FSB 1:1 TURBO 2-2-2-5-4-MAM enable-AUTO-AUTO, then increase it to max speed the RAM/CPU/mobo can take via clockgen/setfsb (240x17 1:1 for instance) and then bench

P4P800 should perform clearly better this way (even P4C800 does, and it can use PAT in 5:4 mode too).
Also might be a good idea to install DX8.1 and 6307 drivers for ATI (thats CAT3.2 I think).

**PytonOrm** · 10-28-2003, 08:17 AM

are EE unlocked or what ??? tell me the goodness

**Kunaak** · 10-28-2003, 08:27 AM

mind running PCMark2002's Memory test?

I think you will get some unusally high scores in the mem test cause of the large cache and it would be interesting to see

**ALT-F13** · 10-28-2003, 08:51 AM

Here is the score in ORB: http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7163034

I'll run PCMark, AquaMark, Mark03 and stuff tomorrow. Just a bit tired now plus have to go on my japanese lesson...

Macci. Sure we'll try that tomorrow. BTW what is the difference between DX8.1 and DX9.0a? I've heard about 20-40 points, no more...

**RuKK** · 10-28-2003, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by Soulburner
We all know you can't compare Intel to AMD so lets please not start a war here....AMD chips do 9IPS and Intel does 6IPS not to mention the completely different architecture so there will be differences in how they do things. There is more than one way to make a processor.

11IPC on the a64 I believe

And I'm not being sarcastic here or anything, but whats IPS? IPC = Instructions Per Clock.. is that not the correct term?

**Dr.Demonic69** · 10-28-2003, 09:31 AM

Originally posted by Soulburner
We all know you can't compare Intel to AMD so lets please not start a war here....AMD chips do 9IPS and Intel does 6IPS not to mention the completely different architecture so there will be differences in how they do things. There is more than one way to make a processor.

Wow where have you been?? War began the first day amd chip came out. ahah And mickey does make a good point. A 4ghz p4 should have killed and destroyed the A64 at only 2.4ghz but it didnt so its a good way to make intel look stupid. ahah my opinion.

**Soulburner** · 10-28-2003, 09:49 AM

I meant IPC, just woke up...

Didn't know it was up to 11 now on the A64.

Are these EE's unlocked? If so, you could make a 2.4 EE and it would totally own the 3.2 when the FSB is cranked through the roof.

**isp** · 10-28-2003, 10:17 AM

Yeah I'm interested what flavors the EE is going to come out with... I agree 2.4EE would be nice

**drunkenmaster** · 10-28-2003, 10:19 AM

errm, yes, chips can be made differently, and can have diff IPC's, but of course they are comparable. Why? because we use both chips to run the same software. IE, if one chip gives better results in one software app, then we can say that chip is faster "IN THAT SOFTWARE" at teh very least.

Or you can say otehr things, like a £300 at 2.4Ghz which is doable on air cooling, is matching a P4EE which may never be out properly, in tiny numbers and above £800(at a guess in uk) at over 4Ghz which is only achievable with vapo cooling. No offence, but there is a clear winner here, in my mind. Even if this chip does get beaten slightly in the orb. You'll find in feb, that the fx dual channel low latency non reg'd ram version will be out, better motherboards, and more importantly win 64 bit. Right now the P4 EE is maxed out, nothing will make it run faster on a clock for clock basis, win 64 will, due to currently unused sse2 and some 3d style instructions, cause a system wide increase in performance, in anything that can use all the currently unused registers, we can see up to 15% boost that we've seen with ut2k3. That will easily take it above teh P4EE, other things to think about. THe p4EE is faster, clock for clock, than the P4 prescott. Also its easier to cool due to its huge die size from teh cache, the prescott, not rushed out instead, will ahve less die size, same heat, much harder to clock we should find. So the prescott will cause a DIP in performance, while at same time we'll have win 64+LL ath fx version+dual channel + core clock , stepping, clocking increases.

Those are just some of the reasons i think the a64 is better.

PS, course they can make a 2.4EE, but selling a $3k chip for $900, is slightly painful, selling it for $240 would cause mass suicide and window jumping sessions from tall buildings at intels base camp

**Soulburner** · 10-28-2003, 11:54 AM

I didn't say they should make a 2.4EE. I said if the 3.2EE was unlocked you could lower the multi (maybe 12, like the 2.4) and crank up the FSB.

And do you realize the Prescott has 64-bit extensions as well? AMD is not the only one that will benefeit from a new OS. And the A64 DOES use SSE2 already.

**gokickrocks** · 10-28-2003, 12:05 PM

was HT on?

**ALT-F13** · 10-28-2003, 12:47 PM

plz don't crap this thread with Intel vs. AMD bullsh*t, Dr. and others. I personally hate holy CPU wars...

**Soulburner** · 10-28-2003, 01:05 PM

I definetely want to see this thing behind a high clocked card 560/410 + and a proper bench.

**LBJGH** · 10-28-2003, 01:23 PM

Originally posted by MickeyMouse
ok where are the compares liz ,hehe?? at least give us the 26k one??? I did this below at 2450mhz btw and it ws a bad run

still funniy its taking a $900 cpu and 4.xghz to match a 2.4ghz A64 IMO

**LBJGH** · 10-28-2003, 01:25 PM

engineering samples are... not that you'll get one. :p

Originally posted by PytonOrm
are EE unlocked or what ??? tell me the goodness

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