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    OCZ 2GB PC4000 GOLD XTC testing

    This should have been done AGES ago...

    These sticks came directly from OCZ, are Samsung UCCC chips, however my CPU mem controller appears to have trouble running over 275mhz 1:1 with a 10x multi without a compromise in stability. I've tried many max async/read pream and drive strengths, but in vain Not sure what weekcode, bigtoe told me that I shouldn't venture into the lands of heatspreader removal unless I like ripped off chips.

    So far I have no results at stock speeds, to be honest I never even ran these stock All vdimm values are BIOS set values! Real values are a little off, the sweet spot seems to be exactly 2.8vdimm (2.7v + 0.3v bios set).

    ddr540 3-4-4-8 2.6vdimm SUPER PI 32M
    ddr540 3-4-4-8 2.6vdimm SANDRA MEMORY BENCHMARK
    ddr540 3-4-4-8 2.6vdimm SANDRA MEMORY + CACHE BENCHMARK
    ddr540 3-4-4-8 2.6vdimm EVERLAST LATENT
    ddr540 3-4-4-8 2.6vdimm EVERLAST READ
    ddr540 3-4-4-8 2.6vdimm EVERLAST WRITE


    Bumped the vdimm a bit, raised TRAS and lowered multi for stability's sake, this 3700+ is nothing like the old opteron

    ddr540 3-4-4-10 2.7vdimm SP2004
    ddr540 3-4-4-10 2.7vdimm SUPER PI 32M

    Next step was of course ddr550. This time another voltage bump with+0.3v, which I found was the optimal voltage for this particular kit, and TRAS to 12. For some reason, TRAS helped a lot. I'm assuming this is because I screwed some other setting I am not aware of, as never has TRAS had such an impact before from my experience. Any advice will be greatly appreciated!

    ddr550 3-4-4-10 2.7 +0.3vdimm SP2004 running
    ddr550 3-4-4-10 2.7 +0.3vdimm SP2004 done
    ddr550 3-4-4-10 2.7 +0.3vdimm SUPER PI 32M
    ddr550 3-4-4-10 2.7 +0.3vdimm SANDRA MEMORY BENCHMARK
    ddr550 3-4-4-10 2.7 +0.3vdimm EVERLAST LATENT
    ddr550 3-4-4-10 2.7 +0.3vdimm EVERLAST READ
    ddr550 3-4-4-10 2.7 +0.3vdimm EVERLAST WRITE

    Another TRAS bump. This was easily 3d stable, and I think I can get this to run SP32M as well once I figure this controller out. I need to re-run 3d though, only have a 3-4-4-12 275 screenie.

    ddr560 3-4-4-12 2.7vdimm +0.3v SUPER PI 1M
    ddr570 3-4-4-12 2.7vdimm +0.3v SUPER PI 1M

    addition meanwhile:

    ddr550 3-4-4-12 2.7 +0.3vdimm 3DMARK06

    -> currently wr in x600xt, first attempt

    I hope to get more results at DDR400, DDR500, 2.5-3-3-6 etc. later in the near future! 3dMark may be an option, however most of my gfx's are currently busted

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    [edit] going for ddr400 later, CAS 2 is a no go.
    Last edited by perry_78; 05-26-2006 at 10:15 AM.
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    so max. stable is?
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    Currently undetermined, somewhere between 275-280 I would think. 280 seems probable enough to me.

    I also noticed that these sticks clock MUCH better with active cooling than without. Even at 2.5vdimm these were blazing hot
    In short, both AMD and NVIDIA discovered that their next-generation graphics cards are superior to each others' last-generation graphics cards.

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    nice work perry

    just have one thing... what's the max mhz you can do with the tightest timings obtainable at 200mhz?

    thanks
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    Great job, Perry

    Thanks for posting your testing results in XB because it's been getting a bit lonely here, without OCZ tests I'd like to see more brand variety and quality tests in this section. Keep up the good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzimark
    nice work perry

    just have one thing... what's the max mhz you can do with the tightest timings obtainable at 200mhz?

    thanks
    I'll re-run and report, I think it was around ~235 2,5-3-3-6, but dont quote me on that

    thanks bachus, it still needs to be expanded, you're reports set the standards
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    Hi.
    I`m dual priming at 3-3-3-8@250MHz. 2.7V
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    excellent work

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    Thanks for the info. I just recently picked-up the kit but haven't done any oc'ing yet.

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    Her it is.

    19H dual prime.
    260MHz 3-3-3-8 2.9V.

    I was trying 270MHz thats why 2.9V. I did 9H 3-3-3-8 2.8V erlier.

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    are those gold sticks, or the platinum EL XTC?
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    wow, i guess i've never really seen UCCC pushed at 3-3-3.. though now that i think about it, i think ocz was putting some 5b F in certain gold sticks. do you have rev 1.1?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozzimark
    wow, i guess i've never really seen UCCC pushed at 3-3-3.. though now that i think about it, i think ocz was putting some 5b F in certain gold sticks. do you have rev 1.1?
    With this type of voltage (2.9v) it's may be quite possible to see what Opteron96 did with his OCZ Gold. I have not given my UCCC more than 2.73v (DMM) for 3-3-3 but @ 2.68v (DMM) it was priming @ 250MHz 5-3-3-3.0 and last time I checked it did 255Mhz in SPi32M. I have them in ATM and will see if 260Mhz is doable - it's not OCZ, though...

    BTW, very nice Opteron96 Can you see what they do @ 8-4-4-3.0-1T, please?
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    good to know, thanks bachus. one of these days i'm gonna get myself a set of UCCC to play with, just so i have a better idea of what to say when trying to help people out
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    Quote Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
    With this type of voltage (2.9v) it's may be quite possible to see what Opteron96 did with his OCZ Gold. I have not given my UCCC more than 2.73v (DMM) for 3-3-3 but @ 2.68v (DMM) it was priming @ 250MHz 5-3-3-3.0 and last time I checked it did 255Mhz in SPi32M. I have them in ATM and will see if 260Mhz is doable - it's not OCZ, though...

    BTW, very nice Opteron96 Can you see what they do @ 8-4-4-3.0-1T, please?
    This is where it gets werd. 3-4-3-8 and 3-4-4-8 dont get me higher!

    strange

    But im still testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron96
    This is where it gets werd. 3-4-3-8 and 3-4-4-8 dont get me higher! strange But im still testing.
    Hmm... Can you do us a favour and post a CPU-Z SPD Tab and a pic of that kit? That would be very helpful Thanks!

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    3-3-3-8 is pretty slick :o Mine need a tras much higher to maintain any stability in Sp2004. I think I can get some time to re-run 3-3-3-8 tomorrow, but I wouldnt get my hopes up
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    Sounds exactly like my set, maxs out around 278 2.6v 3-4-4-8.

    Quote Originally Posted by perry_78
    Currently undetermined, somewhere between 275-280 I would think. 280 seems probable enough to me.

    I also noticed that these sticks clock MUCH better with active cooling than without. Even at 2.5vdimm these were blazing hot
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    along with what bachus said, look for that revision 1.1 label i mentioned earlier!
    i might be jumping to conclusions too quickly, but no gains over 3-3-3 is very typical of micron dies
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    No revision label - PN ends in -k.

    Hence I assume I have UCCC sticks, as 3-4-4-12 gives great mhz gains over 3-3-3-8.
    In short, both AMD and NVIDIA discovered that their next-generation graphics cards are superior to each others' last-generation graphics cards.

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    I've tryed to get my sticks to ddr550 following this examples to no avail, I have an expert board with an opty 170.

    Can someone with same board show the BIOS settings not the a64 tweaker settings ?

    Thanks

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    Here is 265 3-3-3-10 32Mb phi.
    Fighting to get it to manage 24H dual prime


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    Perry 78: I dident ment to hijack this tread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perry_78
    I hope to get more results at DDR400, DDR500, 2.5-3-3-6 etc. later in the near future! 3dMark may be an option, however most of my gfx's are currently busted
    It would be cool to see how far your kit goes at 5-3-3-3.0. When you get a chance, If you're not tired testing it yet

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron96
    Here is 265 3-3-3-10 32Mb phi. Fighting to get it to manage 24H dual prime

    http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs73&d=06125&f...3_3_10-2.9.PNG
    Man, that is really good for UCCC (if that's what this set is) What voltage is it at? I tried my UCCC yesterday and it passed SPi32M @ 260MHz 5-3-3-3.0-1T, 2.90v (DMM) but haven't tried higher...
    Did you manage to work on getting it higher at 7-3-4-3.0-1T? If it doesn't go there it would be quite odd, considering there are supposed to be UCCC...
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    Hi.

    3.0-4-3-8-1T dont give me more Hz. I know its strang

    Now I need a break form OC.

    The 265MHz was with 3.0V
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