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    Twinkling OCZ Gold VX DDR500

    It’s from USA 1st Tier memory company – OCZ.
    They are famous in elegant packing.
    Of course they are striving for OC market.

    My friend bought OCZ VX DDR500 from States.
    VX is the series with Winbond chipset.
    Golden Positive Pole Burnish heatsink.


    Office Spec.
    CL 2-3-3-8 at 2.6V(400MHz)
    CL 2-2-2-8 at 3.3V(500MHz)

    It looks must using DFI nF4 motherboard as the DRAM has 2 segments voltage.
    If you want to bring into the full official spec, you need motherboard with 2.5~3.2V and 3.3~4V setup.

    I am curious if the memory can work in DDR500 2 2-2-5 3.3V such high voltage and high temp environment with just adding heatsink.

    Lets test it.

    Examination:
    Using 12X12 fan to low down the memory and motherboard temp.


    DDR500 2 2-2-5 3.3V
    MEMTEST 1.60
    #5 in 10 loops is OK.


    Removing 12cm fan form memory and leave 12cm system fan to keep convection.


    DDR500 2 2-2-5 3.3V
    MEMTEST 1.60
    #5 appears the 1st error in 3rd loop.


    4th got second fault, 5th got 5 faults, and so on.
    After 10 loops, the error numbers are a lot.
    It seems the heat increased make the system be unstable.

    Using finger to touch the heatsink, I cannot stay even longer than 1 second. I think the temp is around 70~80℃.
    From here we can see, we do need an extra fan to make to system work stable during lone time usage.

    Testing Configuration
    AMD Athlon64 X2 4800+ 2.4G 1MB
    DFI nF4 LANParty Ultra-D
    OCZ Gold VX DDR500 + 12cm fan
    Sunnystone latest water cooling head + Sunntstone dual fan heat-pipe + Eheim 1250 motor

    Starting from 250X11=2750
    The bandwidth is as below.




    SUPER PI and CPUMARK performance test(I haven’t shut down the permanent software, so the performance is lower.)



    Advantage
    1. Gorgeous heatsink
    2. Guarantee DDR500 2 2-2-5 3.3V
    3. Price drops from 270USD to 180USD to be more acceptable.

    Disadvantage
    1. Suggest adding extra coolers to keep system stable.
    2. The voltage is too high, it requires special motherboard to reach the official spec. (This is Winbond characteristic, you don’t need to be overcritical)

    Since DFI nF4 provides DRAM voltage up to 4V, Winbond memory chip becomes popular in DDR500 optimized level.

    This version is retail packing, it’s just normal.
    3.3V DDR500 with fan is stable.
    3.3V DDR510, the OS is crashed.
    Re-install XP and over-voltage to 3.4~3.5V DDR510, it shows blue screen.
    Then try DDR400 2 2-2-5 2.7V, the same blue screen.
    It looks very fit the spec.
    CL 2-3-3-8 at 2.6V(400MHz)
    CL 2-2-2-8 at 3.3V(500MHz)

    2 months ago, friend bought a second hand 256MBX2 BH5 DDR400.
    One is A-Data and 1 is GS. 3.3V DDR500 2 2-2-5 is very stable as well.
    So if you have BH5 or DDR400 UTT and DFI nF4, you can try DDR500 3.2~3.5V, mostly can run

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    How on earth does Memtest give such a low bandwidth?

    My 24/7 setup gives over 2800MB/s in Memtest86+:
    216MHz 2-3-2-7-15 @ 2.5V

    A64 D0 3000+ @ 2601MHz

    I get a bit more than your Sandra b/w score at this config.

    There's something really wrong with your settings. I'm sure your 250MHz *should* be 100% stable with the right settings - and lower voltage.

    Edit:
    Try these:
    tCL = 1.5
    tRRD = 0
    tRTW = 1
    tREF 166MHz 7.8 us (BIOS values 1168 and 4672)
    DQS Skew + Mode = Faster, 0 (Bios Decrease, 0)
    Max Async Latency ≥ 7 ns
    Read Preamble ≥ 4 ns
    Dynamic Idle Cycle... = Enable
    32 Byte Granularity = Enable
    Last edited by largon; 07-12-2005 at 09:39 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by largon
    How on earth does Memtest give such a low bandwidth?

    My 24/7 setup gives over 2800MB/s in Memtest86+:
    216MHz 2-3-2-7-15 @ 2.5V

    A64 D0 3000+ @ 2601MHz

    I get a bit more than your Sandra b/w score at this config.

    There's something really wrong with your settings. I'm sure your 250MHz *should* be 100% stable with the right settings - and lower voltage.

    Edit:
    Try these:
    tCL = 1.5
    tRRD = 0
    tRTW = 1
    tREF 166MHz 7.8 us (BIOS values 1168 and 4672)
    DQS Skew + Mode = Faster, 0 (Bios Decrease, 0)
    Max Async Latency ≥ 7 ns
    Read Preamble ≥ 4 ns
    Dynamic Idle Cycle... = Enable
    32 Byte Granularity = Enable
    because CPU L2 is 1MB
    not 512K

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    1MB L2 decreases RAM b/w?
    Or is it that Memtest86+ can't calculate it right if dualcore w/ 1MB is used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by largon
    1MB L2 decreases RAM b/w?
    Or is it that Memtest86+ can't calculate it right if dualcore w/ 1MB is used?
    my mouth dropped the first time i saw the memtest bandwidth @ 2.8ghz (255x11) with my Redlines and X2. My 3500+ would give me around 3200Mbs/S +, now i can't reach 2900Mbs/S, but it looks as tho every1 with an X2 is getting the same results.
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    windwithme, have you burnt these sticks in yet? after burn in you should be able to so 250 2-2-2-* with less than 3.3v.



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    yeah my old set does 260 @ 3.2V but only managed 250 3.2V before 1 week of burn-in.

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    I want WWM's h20 system

    On Topic: Kind of sad that you need extra cooling to run spec. But I bet after burn in they would do spec w/o added cooling.

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    i just begun to play around with my ocz vx 3200 and i can get 250 2-2-2-10 error free on memtest, most of timings are in auto, ill tweak more later

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    4800+ 2.4G 1MB
    250X11=2750MHZ


    4200+ 2.2G 512K
    250X11=2750MHZ


    1MB is less MB/s than 512K in memtest

    EX:
    4000+ 1MB
    FX 1MB
    X2 1MB

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