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    Xtreme Geforce 6200 competition ???

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone is interested in this. Cards are very cheap and have a chance of allmost 100% to unlock to 8 pipes (Geforce 6600). I will be looking out for the cheapest 6200 (non turbo-cache) with a molex and give you the prices.

    I think there will be 4 categories:

    1.) Water/aircooling 4 pipelines
    2.) Xtreme cooling 4 pipelines
    3.) Water/aircooling 8 pipelines
    4.) Xtreme cooling 8 pipelines

    Xtreme cooling is anything from pelts and PC-cooling to dry ice. Cascade, auto-cascade and LN2 will not be able to compete unless it is very well recieved by many people so I can make an extra category. This is because LN2 and cascades are very hard to get for most people. Dry ice, pelts and singlestages should by fairly easy to obtain.

    Benchmarks need to be very gpu dependant so 3dmark03 and 3dmark05 seem good to me. Final score will be something like 1*03 + 2*05 = total score
    LN2, auto-cascades and cascades to cool the cpu are again not allowed. Any other cooling is allowed in all categories.

    Anyone can compete in as much categories as he wants but you can only win one reward wich yoy can choose yourself. This is because else someone with a very lucky card will win everything.

    Rewards and sponsors are not yet dicided. Maybe I can check if every card is unlockable to 8 pipes. I try to get some big rewards but if no store wants to give much away for free, everyone has to contribute some money ($10 ?) to buy some nice rewards. Cards will be bought at 1 store if it wants to sponsor us.

    Just post in this thread if you're interested and give me some suggestions on benchmarks and maybe other cards to compete.

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    im in, ill go pick up a 6200 friday when i get paid

    Edit- this one looks like a good deal, should clock fairly well too.
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    i'll do it if the card is cheap enough

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    I was looking at the evga too. You think the extra ram is worth it?
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    64 bit don't unlock all 8 mine won't do it
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    I think the best card for this competition would be the Geforce 6200 128mb (128-bit). I'm now looking for a nice (cheap) one with a molex but all the webstores mix up the specs of the card so it takes a bit longer.
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    I'm game if you find some good priced moddable cards
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    Do this like the xaber 200 or whatever competetion we had a while ago? I'm game All the cards should be bought from the same place in the same order to keep as level a playing field as possible. Any cooling better than water should have to be DIY, vmods allowed, kill the card and you're out. Sounds fun!
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    That's a NV44a. Not moddable to 8 pipes for sure, also 64bit mem interface instead of 128bit. Look for cards with the heatsink and a bridge heatsink on a diagonal, like the one DisposableTeen linked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afireinside
    Do this like the xaber 200 or whatever competetion we had a while ago? I'm game All the cards should be bought from the same place in the same order to keep as level a playing field as possible. Any cooling better than water should have to be DIY, vmods allowed, kill the card and you're out. Sounds fun!
    i agree...use the xabre template for the competition. someone with enough motivation should look for someone who can handle a bulk order of the vid card for everyone in the competition. that way, the stock cards are generally as equal as you are gonna get. then from there have different categories, like air cooling, water cooling etc. and have the cpu's set at a certain frequency, but they will have to be categorixed as well into, say, axp, 754 a64, 939 a64. 478 p4, 775 p4, etc...

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    The catagories there is the problem. If we have a seperate class for every type of CPU everyone will win because there will be about 2 people per class. A64/pentium M as one class and P4 as the other class. Have 3 clock ranges or go by cooling.
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    this isnt about prizs but fun, so it doesnt really matter if there are only few people in one category imo

    you should make a final theread once you got enough feedback and enough people that want to join and decided what categories to go for and what the rules will be
    (if there will be any )

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    I know its about the fun but it still seems stupid breaking it up that much...
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    ha guess what card im using thats still ticking? been so abused!

    I like the idea if the prices are good! $89 is too much though

    this is way too much.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814145118 and not very good. could get a 9800 for that

    edit: I just thought, alot of ppl have PCI-E and alot still have AGP. hmmm
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    Quote Originally Posted by afireinside
    I know its about the fun but it still seems stupid breaking it up that much...
    arent you one of the ones that has a phase change unit up and running? Some of us dont so we are glad that it is broken up like that.

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    Cascade? I wish. I've got water and a crappy dry ice tube...
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    So what do you guys think about the categories now? Braking up different types of cpu's doesn't seem necessary since both 3dmark03 and 3dmark05 are very gpu dependant.

    Does everyone agrees with the 128mb 128-bit molex card? We can also choose the TC (turbocache) version because it's cheap but it will put more stress on the system (primarily RAM) so the people with TCCD will have an edge over the others.

    And what do you guys think about checking the card for working pipes? Maybe a bit of luck involved is only nice I think

    Can someone make a poll? Because I can't. I mean about different categories, graphicscard type (maximum price), if people are willing to pay some extra for buying the rewards, etcetera, etcetera.
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    better than what im running over here. Maybe ill get some water loving going this summer. I might have to to keep this summer heat at bay.

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    remember alot of different slots ppl use now, AGP PCI-E.

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    Yep, some have to pay a little more and maybe have a 0-5% decrease in performance, I can do nothing about that. Making different categories for both AGP and PCI-Express seems unreasonable. The only thing we have to make sure is that every card has a molex and the same memory and core, that's all.
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    Well, the cheapest 6600 I can get in the Netherlands is about 100 euro for both PCI-Express and AGP. I don't think any of these cards (6200 and 6600) come with molexes so the PCI-Express versions will have an edge when you overclock to xtremes (maximum power through PCI-Express is much higher than through AGP).

    MMM, I'm realy thinking now. An X300 would be fun too, I heard they overclock xtremely well.

    What do you guys think?

    Please include in your next post the maximum amount of money you'd like to spend and if you use AGP or PCI-Express.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexio
    Yep, some have to pay a little more and maybe have a 0-5% decrease in performance, I can do nothing about that. Making different categories for both AGP and PCI-Express seems unreasonable. The only thing we have to make sure is that every card has a molex and the same memory and core, that's all.

    how is making two catagories unreasonable agp=8x pci-e=16x 16 is 2 times better than 8 so 16 has DOUBLE the bandwidth so ur data rate would be like so 16*100 = 1600mhz 8*66=528mhz ...c'mon tha's a little unfair 3.03 times the frequency even if agp boys took it upto 81mhz 81*8 is still only 648 which is still 2.4 times more frequency, not to mention different interfaces....i won't go on...
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    8X AGP is even overkill for a high-end card like the X850 XT PE, with that card there's only like 5% difference maximum in benchmarks between AGP 8X and AGP 4X . The 6200 can't utilize 8X AGP not even when unlocked to 8 pipes. Loads of reviews show the the X8** cards are even faster at AGP then at PCI-Express so what you say is not true for sure.

    When we'd choose to go for the TC versions it's a hole lot different story since then the conection between the system memory and graphicscard needs to give a lot of bandwidth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Tinker
    That's a NV44a. Not moddable to 8 pipes for sure, also 64bit mem interface instead of 128bit. Look for cards with the heatsink and a bridge heatsink on a diagonal, like the one DisposableTeen linked.
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    If its agp and i can come up with the funds then im game.

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