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    3.06 Mobile p4

    Guys I am thinking about buying a SL77P 3.06p4 mobile.
    its a 533 bus, but just want to know if it will have access to multipleyers like other mobile chips do.

    any help would be great

    thanks.

    ibby

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    It will default to a 12 multi and the 23 will not work.

    So, as long as you use an IC7, IS7, AI7 or an Asus or Epox motherboard you should be able to clock well over 200fsb.

    if your using DFI you will have to play with the BSEL pins to force the board to boot at a default 200fsb, hard with the 533fsb chips though.
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    thanks bigtoe,

    I am guessing the 23 multi wont work becuase the ic7 maxs and the rest of the desktop mobos dont have speed step technology ?

    ibby

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    I had one of these, it would boot at 12x. I could not get the higher multis to boot (mines was an ES)
    I think I was using an 845 board for it though, so way higher than 200FSB should be possible on an 865 or better board.
    One thing though, if I remember correctly, I could not get it to boot at 800fsb without doing the 533>800 BSEL trick (which I cannot remember now and I need again!)
    Thanks

    EDIT: maybe EIST from cpuid.com will allow multi adjustment like on Pentium M?
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    I had eaxctly the same CPU and stepping.

    12x multiplier only.
    But it did run at 3.4 pretty sweatly.
    Could'nt get it faster as i hoped for 12x 300.I tried on various boards P4c800e,p4p800-dlx, IC7 , IS7 it was just its limit.

    Still fairly fun, but I think new 2.4's are probably a better option.
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    3.4 - 3.6 was generally the non-extreme cooling limit on all 3.06's regardless of mobile or not. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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    erm isn't sl77p 23x??

    23x133 = 3.06ghz...
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    Basicly no.
    All P4m's revert to 12x multiplier in desktop boards.

    12x is battery state and so far no one/program (other then in laptops) can switch to the upper multiplier.
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    Normally these 3.06 Mobile can do 12x300 easily with 1.5-1.575V. Even in a Shuttle Barebone I hit 300MHz stable with good temps and can boot up with 315MHz @ 1.6V

    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=30618

    I tried a lot of these mobile chips, and only few of them maxed out @ 290-295MHz.

    And there is a way to use the highest multiplier on desktop boards, just search this forum for "confirmed way to change multiplier...."

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    Quote Originally Posted by olDirdey
    Normally these 3.06 Mobile can do 12x300 easily with 1.5-1.575V. Even in a Shuttle Barebone I hit 300MHz stable with good temps and can boot up with 315MHz @ 1.6V

    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=30618

    I tried a lot of these mobile chips, and only few of them maxed out @ 290-295MHz.

    And there is a way to use the highest multiplier on desktop boards, just search this forum for "confirmed way to change multiplier...."
    thats an ES anyway.

    But I can't find anything on any boards about changing multipliers on p4m's.

    Only the later 3.0E etc that allow 14x multiplier manipulation.
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    No, it has nothing to to that this one is an ES CPU. On Desktop Board you can only use the lowest and highest multiplier, even with an ES CPU.

    I don´t find the thread here in this forum, but found a pdf file from a german forum

    http://tm630.tripod.com/P4B533_MPM.pdf

    If you can´t translate the text, ask for it and I will tell how it works.

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    well can you tell please,

    as I have never read anything about anyone been able to use the anything but battery multiplier on the p4m.
    I have also google'd it and it brigs up nothing, although it is over a year since i had my P4m 3.06 and someone might have found a way.
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    old school thread.
    but good progress keep info comming

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    As written in Intel Data Sheet "Intel Pentium 4 Processor-M and 845E Chipset" the Processor reads the GHI# Signal in Deep Sleed Mode.

    The GHI# signal is needed to activate the MPM

    If you connect the GHI# Signal to Ground, the Maximum Performance Mode will be activated.

    How it works:

    Desktop chipsets cant activate the deep sleep mode from the processor, only the sleep mode. To activate the deep sleep mode we need to go in windows standy mode. There connect signal DPSLP# to ground to activate processors deep sleep mode.

    After that we can short signal GHI# to ground and activate the maximum performace mode.

    That´s all!

    But now to the pictures in the pdf file. On Asus P4B533 the signal GHI# and DPSLP# are shorten together and connected to Vcc with a 56OHm resistor and cause of this every time logic "1"

    So on this board you need to unsolder the resistor R1 and solder a cable to the right solder point as shown on the picture.

    Now you can use the cable connected to GHI# to activate the maximum performance mode in windows suspend mode. Just shorten it with ground.

    I hope you can understand, otherwhise feel free to ask.

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    I have a 3,06 p4-m and a Asus P4C800-E Delux, can`t get it to even post
    Tryed to put the 3.06 in my old soltek sl-85erv2 and postet fine 12*133
    The P4C800-E Delux is working fine with a 1.8 normal P4 cpu
    Even tryed to flash the 1024 beta and the 1023 but with no luck.
    Anybody with a solution to me problem ?
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    I don't get it!

    Could someone who knows draw where the wires have to go on it?

    Would the method above mean that the user would have to go into standby mode then short a wire every time they want the multiplier to change?!
    If so, is there an alternative method?

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    In post #11 you find a link to a pdf file with few pictures. But it´s only for Asus P4B533.

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    Talking

    i have had a 3,06ghz p4m on a asus p4p800se

    i have had this cpu on 12x310mhz=3720mhz@1,62vcore@load 50° with an Freezer 4......

    in 3DMark01 i have with 3,25ghz(12x270 Ram 1:1, 2,5-3-3-5) ~21.500 Points
    with 3,6ghz (Ram @~240mhz, 2,5-3-3-5 ) ~22.500
    in AQM i have had 10.300 CPU SCORE@3,6ghz


    nice CPU i have to say! i have bought it for 89€
    and from FSB533->FSB1240 is more than nice

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    Ja, the picture didn't make much sense to me - and my German isn't that good.

    Surely there is a pin or two I can just short to ground or to something to get it to boot at full whack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocky
    Ja, the picture didn't make much sense to me - and my German isn't that good.

    Surely there is a pin or two I can just short to ground or to something to get it to boot at full whack?



    which pict.?
    and you should not short the pins

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    The one in the PDF, it's all German though, and confusing. Seems like a lot of work, bit of a bodge fix from the looks of it...

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    ah ok, now i have seen it

    for me its no problem, because i`m german

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stocky
    The one in the PDF, it's all German though, and confusing. Seems like a lot of work, bit of a bodge fix from the looks of it...
    No, it´s not lot to do. Only 2 Pins in the socket are used to activate the mpm.

    The problem on the board in the pdf is that both signals are connected together. But in the pdf you see the pins and can measure for yourself to find a place on your mobo to connect the wires.

    The green marked pin and the removed resistor are only for a vdimm mod, has nothing to do with the mpm mode.

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    Don't bother getting one, unless you've got a good memory controller...
    this is the absolute highest I could 1:1 :


    My 1.8 matched it to the T, same voltage, same settings.

    I'm willing to bet that if a P4-M 1.4 C1 existed it would match both chips!
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