Tyan dual Opteron board quicker than DFI in 3dmark05

[zakelwe]

Interesting, according to Firingsquad review

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...dup/page20.asp

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ges/intmem.gif

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ges/fpumem.gif

I am not sure I agree with their analysis on why, 3dmark05 only takes the game tests for the score, not cpu tests and I did not think the game tests could take advantage of having 2 cpu's. Maybe it is just the huge bandwidth that gives the extra few hundred points ? If that is the case then this should also provide good 2001 and 03 scores.

The other problem of course is that using 2x Asus 6800U even at stock you should surely get mre than 5-6k ? Is the article just not worth the paper it is not printed on ?

Maybe this review does not stack up, but I'd like to find out more. The Tyan does not overclock well but it is likely the Iwill dual board using nforce4 SLi will.

Regards

Andy

[blinky]

i hope we dont start to need to buy two procs

oc'ing is too expensive as it is

[STEvil]

only things I can guess are that the new chipset is a bit more efficient and/or there is 4/2-bank interleving enabled on the tyan and not the DFI.

[Jamo]

i'm a little skeptical of that review, as i cant see how the SLi motherboards give that much variety in their results, eg. a 700 point spread in 05 seems alot if you ask me, also if you fast forward to the gaming review then the opterons hit the bottom of the pile

[Kunaak]

theres one major difference between Dual CPU SLI boards and regular NF4's...
atleast, this is if I remmeber the information correct, cause I read this a million times over at 2CPU.com forums.
"Dually NF4's have 16x2 lanes so both videocards can run as fast as possible, regular NF4's run in a 16x 8x configuration..."

I think...

[sl1m shady]

it sounds too logic, this guy thrown out very good results with no OC...

http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=45964

[Xogun]

The Tyan K8WE is the only motherboard with true SLI 16x wich is 16x2.
Each cpu runs one pcix.

[craig588]

The Opteron requires registered ram.

Any gains you might gain from running slightly faster PCI-E busses will be eliminated once you start overclocking the thing. You get stuck at 230MHz@3-3-3 or you could have a 939 that can do 270MHz@2-2-2

[Xogun]

The Opteron requires registered ram.

Any gains you might gain from running slightly faster PCI-E busses will be eliminated once you start overclocking the thing. You get stuck at 230MHz@3-3-3 or you could have a 939 that can do 270MHz@2-2-2

Not True,

for now the tyan is cabable to 240 at 2.6v -> voltages out of the box.

[craig588]

That still isn't close to 270.

[jjcom]

The Opteron requires registered ram.

Not all Opterons, I believe CG and later revisions do NOT need registered RAM.

jjcom

[Kunaak]

if the tyan boards don't even offer overclocking features, then it wouldn't be too hard to pass in benchmarks with a regular overclocking board.

[mcnbns]

In turn, the K8WE doesn’t need a special SLI connector to configure the board’s x16 slots. Each runs at full-speed all of the time, regardless of how many graphics cards are being used, resulting in unbridled SLI performance. That’s one motherboard with a total of 40 lanes of PCIe, 32 of which are exposed.

Kunaak's first post was completely correct.

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...dup/page10.asp
^2nd last paragraph

EDIT: I see Xogun agrees with Kunaak.

[zakelwe]

It looks as if the IWILL board will have some overclockign options so I am going to keep an eye out at 2cpu.com to see how far epople get with those.

regards

Andy

[bubblethumper]

I think those articles are correct.

A guy over at Hardforums has a dual opteron system with SLI that beats the Dual LN2 system we keep hearing about.

Here's what I know about his run:

12,844 3Dmark05

Dual QuadroFX 4400 SLI @ 400/550

I'm too lazy to dig up his hardware specs, but I think he's got dual Opty 250s, Dual Quadro 4400s, and 8 gigs of ram.

He uses it primarily for medical imaging, but likes to game too

[zakelwe]

I think those articles are correct.

A guy over at Hardforums has a dual opteron system with SLI that beats the Dual LN2 system we keep hearing about.

Here's what I know about his run:

12,844 3Dmark05

Dual QuadroFX 4400 SLI @ 400/550

I'm too lazy to dig up his hardware specs, but I think he's got dual Opty 250s, Dual Quadro 4400s, and 8 gigs of ram.

He uses it primarily for medical imaging, but likes to game too

Gotta link ?

Regards

Andy

[bubblethumper]

Gotta link ?

Regards

Andy

This is a copy of his sig:

Dual Optron 252s, Tyan 2895scsi, dual SLI-ed QuadroFX 4400s 512mb each;(4) 400GB SATA-2 RAID drives -1.45Terabytes of Storage, Windows Enterprise Server 2003 64-bit.... and plenty of blue lights.

Looks like he's got 16gigs of ram. He also used to have 6800 Ultras in SLI before switching over to Quadros. These quadros go for $2500 each!



I'm not sure what the deal is with his scores not being published, but I think he's had problems getting futuremark to accept the score because they are quadros

Anyway, he's a thread on his killer machine (on AIR to boot): hardforum thread

[saaya]

hahaha quadros... can you say waste of money? ^^
and what good is 16gb of ram?

unless hes doing cad or or 3d stuff... then the quadros and the ramd are worth it

the guys at firigsquads dont do very good reviews and articles unfortunatel, they should have run the board with one and with 2 cpus and see what the difference would be.

[bubblethumper]

can you say waste of money? ^^

Actually he uses it for medical imaging. So I'd wager to say that it's NOT a waste of money for him.

[Kunaak]

just curious, but what kinda medical imaging requires that kinda power??

[bubblethumper]

just curious, but what kinda medical imaging requires that kinda power??

I don't know the guy personally, but i know that it's pretty easy to have files that are 2gigs+

Then when you talk about looking at more than one at a time.... well...

[jjcom]

yeah, working with large files can really be bad unless you've got the RAM to back it. that much RAM...amazing... to this guy

jjcom

[Rave]

The Tyan board supports NUMA don't forget, memory bandwidth is not really an issue. Interested to hear that later Opterons might not require registered RAM too- can anyone verify this?

[craig588]

Are there any single chip Opteron boards that overclock well? An opteron 140 (If they can now work without regged ram) is like 200$ for all of the features of an FX55 except for clock speed which can easily be recovered with a high HTT.

[sinsinking]

he can do storage of his temp file in ram drive.
Or open all application he needs at the same time.
16Giga ram.. LOL, even 1giga i feel enough for personal use.
Not my type, but i love to see the score with this monster config.