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03-03-2005, 10:54 PM
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AMD Athlon64 4200+ TEST First Look
present CPUZ is unable to distinguish its edition (the PR value to distinguish wrongly).. But this section CPU supports the SEE3 estimate is 0.09 system regulation
quickly takes the news. L2 to use the 1MB design
at present uses SAMPLE..
TEST
The test provides
AMD 4200+
XXXXX
512MB*2 to run DDR 400 1T
Hitachi 80G SATA hard disk
GF-5750/128MB
Thank andyhuang0308 to provide the news...
Digital-info Soucre
Last edited by sxs112; 03-04-2005 at 12:15 AM.
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03-03-2005, 11:01 PM
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thats pretty quick for that clock, looks good!
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03-03-2005, 11:03 PM
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On the AMD RoadMap that looks to be a 4000+ Venice Core 
2.6Ghz on stock volts looks like were gettin back to the good old days when Winnie's clocked high 
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03-03-2005, 11:06 PM
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It has 1Mb of L2 cache so seems like it is a multi crippled 90nm FX55
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03-03-2005, 11:11 PM
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Correction it may be a San Diego core 
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03-03-2005, 11:19 PM
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Where did it come from?
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03-03-2005, 11:23 PM
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Strictly Business
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Originally Posted by Gitsum
Where did it come from?
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That's what I wanna know.
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OVERCLOCKING - The process of installing high hopes, dumb luck, and several paychecks into a rectangular
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03-03-2005, 11:30 PM
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tl;dr
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I want one
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03-03-2005, 11:36 PM
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Anyone from XS ever thought of organize a bulk order for chips or cards?
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03-03-2005, 11:42 PM
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Very nice. Just like everyone, I'll be keen to see how they clock and scale with better cooling and voltage.
Definitely fast times for that clock. My 3200 winnie can do 32s running at ~250x10 with GSkill LEs, so that CPU looks very promising!
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03-03-2005, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by OC Detective
It has 1Mb of L2 cache so seems like it is a multi crippled 90nm FX55
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I don't mind. Glad to see more 1mb chips. Other than clockspeed and die size wise.... AMD has done nothing to improve A64's. In fact, they have enjoyed the perceived performance lead on intel and done everything to cripple them besides a few clockrate bumps. They want us all to buy 512kb cache chips and now semprons are getting mixed 256->128kb. Anyways... a nice claw from eons ago gives new cpus a run for their money. However small 2mb cache is for P4's, at least their improving thier cpu line. When this die switch is successful I want 1mb cache again... f' it give the FX more.
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03-04-2005, 12:36 AM
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Id like to see how high this diego 4200+(multi locked 90nm fx55 basically) overclocks! This I want to see more than anything else.
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3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth! 
9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
3dmark scores with older gpus
Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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03-04-2005, 12:41 AM
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love to see the improved mem controller in action i.e.
4x 256MB @>DDR400 1T
4x 512MB @ >DDR400 1T
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03-04-2005, 12:42 AM
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Looks nice! I wonder, though, what's the stock performance of an FX-55 in SuperPi (I probably should know this...)?
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03-04-2005, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikael
Looks nice! I wonder, though, what's the stock performance of an FX-55 in SuperPi (I probably should know this...)?
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not sure but I hit 34s with my winny at only 2.4GHz so I really hope that 4200+ hits 30s at 2.6GHz cause of the cache. As for ondie controller, I hope this and Venice are capable of over 300fsb easy even with 2x512mb sticks, I can only hit 262 with my winny 
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3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
3dmark scores with older gpus
Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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03-04-2005, 12:58 AM
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PI 32M
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03-04-2005, 01:00 AM
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Thanks, but we need something more than SuperPi results! I'm so eager to se if there will be any performance advantage compared to the older revisions. Something tells me that SuperPi isn't going to show much of these supposed advantages...
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03-04-2005, 01:06 AM
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Here's a Newcastle 3500+ at 10x261MHz with 2x512MB of VX running 1:1 2-2-2-10-1T. Let's see how much of a difference tweaking your memory will do with the same CPU clocks. I'd also appreciate seeing a few other types of benching apps put to use as well.
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OVERCLOCKING - The process of installing high hopes, dumb luck, and several paychecks into a rectangular
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03-04-2005, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Mikael
Thanks, but we need something more than SuperPi results! I'm so eager to se if there will be any performance advantage compared to the older revisions. Something tells me that SuperPi isn't going to show much of these supposed advantages...
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03-04-2005, 01:08 AM
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who owns this diego cpu? why hasnt he overclocked it yet! thats the big thing everyone is waiting for, has amd's new process allowed for higher clocks vs. 130nm?
"Like..."
overclock the cpu as far as itll go and run a whole suite of benchmarks including 3dmark 2001
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3000+ Venice 240x9=2.16GHz(ondie controller limit) 2x512mb patriot tccd ram
9700pro at 325/310 runs all games buttery smooth!
9700(8 pipe softmod, 128m) at 410/325 23821 at 325/310 21287 at 275/270 19159
9500(4 pipes, 128m) at 420/330 18454 at 275/270 13319
9500(8 pipe softmod, 64m) at 390/310 19201 at 275/270 16052
9500(4 pipes, 64m) at 400/310 16215 at 275/270 12560
3dmark scores with Ti4200 and Ti4800se
Ti4200 at 340/730 19558 at 300/650 18032 at 275/550 16494 at 250/500 15295
3dmark scores with older gpus
Ti500 at 275/620 14588 Ti200 at 260/540 13557 MX440 at 380/680 11551
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03-04-2005, 01:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Arseface
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 The SuperPI phenomenon is so widely spread that people seem to think it's the only performance measure that matters anymore!
Well, I could list a few programs that I personally find more interesting:
Hexus Pifast
WinRAR
ScienceMark
Lame encoding
Maybe even a run of PCMark04
There's nothing wrong with SuperPi, but I don't think that it alone can be used to tell very much about a CPU. I guess I'll get the whole community on my back now...
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03-04-2005, 02:19 AM
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Sorry - I didn't mean to sound like a tool!
I just wondered what people thought were better CPU tests than super-pi, as it is the one thing I would have thought of immediately to test the CPU (rather than the system as a whole).
But yeah - I really want to see how the venice/san-diego cores overclock! I've got a crappy clocking FX here sitting on phase change at only 3Ghz, and I'm looking at getting a 90nm FX55 if they clock as well as I'm hoping they will!
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03-04-2005, 03:15 AM
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More input..more input!
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03-04-2005, 04:39 AM
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present CPUZ is unable to distinguish its edition (the PR value to distinguish wrongly)
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sxs112, Just current BIOS version incorrectly calculates a model number, cpu-z copies it.
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03-04-2005, 05:07 AM
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we want oc input a nice comparison alongside with a FX55 ClawHammer Vs. 4200+ SanDiego.
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