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Old 11-25-2004, 03:12 PM   #1
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Athlon 64/XP overclocking guide

**Update** June 30, 2005
Went through some of the history and updated, updated the processors in the guide alittle.

**Update** June 18, 2005
Added new processors to the guide. Still here

**Update** April 16th, 2005
Go here to find the latest revision of the guide. I've got a processor table also in that directory. The processor table is in Open Office.org format and in Excel format as well. If needed in other formats, contact me. -jjcom

Hey,
As the title might sugest, this is a overclocking guide. Saaya and I were bouncing ideas back and forth about different things and this was the result.

http://home.mindspring.com/~jjiles1/

I'll always have the word latest in the latest guide so go for that one, I'll be keeping the old ones on the server incase I delete something I shouldn't, you guys just want to look at it, etc. Anyway, I need some feedback, theres only so much I can do on my own. This guide is to be for people new to overclocking so don't start giving me this volt mod stuff. Keep it simple, something that someone new to OCing can understand. BUT if you give me those sugestions I may make a similar guide with more info (Board quirks, RAM problems on certain boards, etc) I don't know about that one, but if I can I'll do it. I'll have 2 weeks around X-mas where I can do stuff so that should work....

Saaya, Ressurection, and a few others have helped me out on this, so thanks for answering my questions, looking it over, point out errors, etc.

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EDIT: just found out you guys don't like using external links, sorry.
EDIT2: OK I got that cleared up, it appears I just shouldn't have links in my sig going to out side website, but its alright to have the link to my personal web space here. I'll probly have the latest ones here on XS and move the old ones to the server. So consider the server for archives

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Old 11-25-2004, 03:17 PM   #2
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Link needs editing JJ leads to Earthlink Homepage.
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Old 11-25-2004, 03:34 PM   #3
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alright, fixed...the link in my sig is broken as well...mmmm...I thought it worked..lol o'well

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Old 11-25-2004, 04:09 PM   #4
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I like it alot, tons of info. I only really read the last 2 pages and it seems really good / well written. Good job :P
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Old 11-25-2004, 04:15 PM   #5
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thanks, I spent awhile trying to get it right before I started this thread, only letting a few people see it at first, not like its a secret or anything, I just didn't want to lead anyone astray..

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Old 11-26-2004, 09:41 AM   #6
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Nice job, very useful. Thanks!
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Old 11-26-2004, 07:49 PM   #7
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anything that needs changing? Cleaning up? made more clear?

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Old 11-26-2004, 10:34 PM   #8
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Its a very good guide. Like suggestion it could be useful to talk about memory timmings in AXP and A64.

Good Job!
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Old 11-26-2004, 10:47 PM   #9
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*UPDATE*
Added more to the RAM timings section on the guide. Thanks for the idea corvus_corax!

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Old 11-27-2004, 07:46 AM   #10
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sweet guide, very usefull.
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Old 11-27-2004, 08:55 AM   #11
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I just finished proofreading and editing your guide, jjcom (the latest update). Great stuff! I have attached a copy that I edited. Most of the changes are simple grammatical issues, but I also changed a few small things about RAM voltage and heat spreaders, and critical CPU temps. I also added my name at the end in the "thanks to" section because I'm selfish.

Heatspreaders DO NOT cool RAM any better than having them "naked", they just look really cool. 2.8V is a safe voltage for any DDR RAM, so I included that.

Also, in the interest of keeping newbies safe, I changed the highest recommended CPU temp to "50 C or so". I know you operate your CPU at higher temps, but I've found that not every CPU (only tested AXPs, though) will be stable above 50 C.

I didn't mean to be nitpicky but I thought some of the points were worth clarifying. You don't have to keep the technical changes I made, but I just thought I'd throw them out there. Excellent job on the guide!
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Old 11-27-2004, 09:17 AM   #12
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thanks...I'd just heard someone (maybe here..(?) say that about RAM before and I thought it made sense...it had something to do with cooling of RAM...what was it...o'well I'll remember at some point..lol maybe
no its not bad that you added your name to the thanks section.
I like the changes you made..very infomitive. thanks!

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Old 11-27-2004, 09:22 AM   #13
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Old 11-27-2004, 06:54 PM   #14
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I read, instead of just skimming through. I like what you did. You reworded a few things so its easier to understand...I like to go off on a limb some times...lol so thats good you kept me from confusing new people. Thanks for doing that grammar check thing, could you tell I'm not great with that sort a thing?

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Thumbs up

I must say that I truely enjoyed reading your article...not only was it easy to read and follow but I was able to walk away from it understanding the concept of o/c'ing better (I have read several articles but this one kinda just stuck to me "mobetter". There seems to be wealth of information here on this site and I know I will make an effort to visit frequently. If I do post some questions just remember, I am not stupid... just ignorant.

thanks

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Old 11-28-2004, 11:21 PM   #16
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havent read it yet as its 2am, but found 1 thing to add, theres also a 2400 Barton, doesnt stop at 2500 :p


yes i know very small thing, but you asked for changes :p
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Old 11-28-2004, 11:57 PM   #17
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Thanks for the guide!
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Old 11-29-2004, 01:44 PM   #18
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Update

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Athlon XP 2400 Barton added

all updates added will be added to the guide that was grammar checked/corrected, thanks

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Old 12-01-2004, 03:31 PM   #19
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IDEA! I know its scary

Could people post some steppings for the AXP/A64s that overclock well?

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Old 12-08-2004, 01:52 PM   #20
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jjcom.. that thing is nuts.. a 10 page guide to overclocking... hell by the time i could get done reading that thing i would have.. well i dont know what i would have done.. but yah...

good article from what i say.

about the steppings... the weeks dont seem to matter so much as of now. the new week 41 winnies are insanely inconsistent. some ppl are hitting 2.4ghz while others are hitting 2.9... with the axp's its better though.. not sure about nc's though.
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Old 12-08-2004, 02:56 PM   #21
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yeah, now that the fabs have the making of the chips down, it doesn't matter as much for the AXPs. The A64s on the 130nm...it depends on the chip. the 2.6 Claw and the .6 NC seem to be doing well...from something like week 35 and on up. So sometimes weeks matter, but they matter less as time goes on.

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Old 12-15-2004, 09:01 PM   #22
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are you planning on writing one for P4 systems? (prescott mainly but northwood would be nice) my friend is trying to learn and i would teach him but he lives in a different state and with work and school i dont have time to write up a nice manual like that...
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nice guide i read the first it was a bit hard to follow but will be good i can tell
wat are the 2.6 and .6 chips i keep hearing about them but i dont know what they are
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Old 12-16-2004, 02:19 PM   #24
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I believe its something like .6 NC and 2.6CH...they seem to overclock higher and no one is sure as to why. I believe the theory was they used some type of SS, but we don't know.

Pentium 4 overclocking guide...darn a beat me to it , I already typed a little up if you like to see it.

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Old 12-16-2004, 05:46 PM   #25
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im not saying im making one, i wish i could but with school and work i dont have the time, im just saying that if you do have the time it might be apprectiated by some people in this forum and some friends of mine, you can PM me what you have already if you want... i wouldnt mind reading it and telling you what i think.
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