2010 AMD Analyst Day Thread

[generics_user]

All AMD analyst day info gets here so people don't have to follow 3-4 threads

Most important slides, sadly i missed the Desktop and notebook Roadmap someone else up these please and add the next ones







Info:
Ontario/Zacate launch with products in Q1 2011 @ CES 2011
Bulldozer desktop pulled in before Server to Q2 2011
Processors: BD Refresh in 2012 (20core server), 3rd gen BD in 2013
Bobcat refresh in 2012 (2-4 Core, 28nm, improved GPU
Llano replaced by 4-core BD APU in 2012

[informal]

Chekib just said that "yield curve for 32nm just bombed" describing they got to the point when yields got where they want them and APUs and CPUs are ready for mass production(as we can see in BD pull in and LLano H1 launch).

[generics_user]

Process Roadmap:

[saaya]

Process Roadmap:

wow, just look at how much things are slowing down in the next years...

i hope for them intel will slow down as well, otherwise intel can skip several ticks and do tocks only, just shrink and tweak and they will stay competitive with the same design for half a decade

[Dresdenboy]

i hope for them intel will slow down as well, otherwise intel can skip several ticks and do tocks only, just shrink and tweak and they will stay competitive with the same design for half a decade

Just as a funny thought: what if AMD's doing it just the other way round, doing ticks only

[sergiojr]

wow, just look at how much things are slowing down in the next years...

I think you got it wrong. The graph shows only APUs on new techprocess. If an APU is developed on old techprocess (e.g. second 28nm APU) it is not shown on the graph.

[ajaidev]

40nm to 28nm TSMC

32nm to 20nm GF

[ubuntu83]

40nm to 28nm TSMC

32nm to 20nm GF

28nm is High/k gate first so I think it's Glofo. TSMC's 28nm is gate last like intel (maybe they got some help from intel).

[ajaidev]

[Manicdan]

so no 22nm, and right to 20nm?

[informal]

They reduced the debt by 1.4Bn since last year... In this pace they should be debt free or near that in 2 or 3 years.

[Periander6]

They reduced the debt by 1.4Bn since last year... In this pace they should be debt free or near that in 2 or 3 years.

A 1.25 Billion dollar check from Intel was mostly responsible for that.

[informal]

A 1.25 Billion dollar check from Intel was mostly responsible for that.

Indeed,but intel got away cheap and AMD provided themselves a way out of manufacturing business without losing the x86 license.I expect them to further lower the debt in 2011,not by the same extent but still lower it a bit compared to 2010.

[Sn0wm@n]

They reduced the debt by 1.4Bn since last year... In this pace they should be debt free or near that in 2 or 3 years.

and then big budget development we might hope

I prefer to use the comparison of dropping in a turbo in a car .

you can drive normal around the streets, but you know in the highway you can drop the pedal and overtake other cars (mainly blue cars with intel stickers all over them)

LOLL nice one

[Lightman]

Great news JF

Now the exciting question is - if all core load can still allow 500MHz turbo how much of a jump we will get in poorly threaded software on one or two core loads?

[Oliverda]

Great news JF

Now the exciting question is - if all core load can still allow 500MHz turbo how much of a jump we will get in poorly threaded software on one or two core loads?

+1000MHz maybe?

I think that this "all cores can get +500MHz" thing confirms again that the BD will be a high frequency design arch.

[JF-AMD]

Great news JF

Now the exciting question is - if all core load can still allow 500MHz turbo how much of a jump we will get in poorly threaded software on one or two core loads?

It would be higher.

There are more details about Turbo CORE that we are not revealing, when we launch you will see additional details that could make it even more exciting.

[FlanK3r]

It would be higher.

There are more details about Turbo CORE that we are not revealing, when we launch you will see additional details that could make it even more exciting.

whau, perfect

[god_43]

cant watch the webcast until its over? how are you guys watching it?

[ubuntu83]

Somebody who has the slides of Fusion APU's memory management please post them here.

[FlanK3r]

btw, whats up with stream? :-( It was for 53 minute ago (in program is pause for 30 minutes, not for 50minutes+ :-) )

[informal]

JF-AMD on his blog :

Turbo CORE – We have disclosed that we would include AMD Turbo CORE technology in the past, so this should not be a surprise to anyone. But what is news is the uplift – up to 500MHz with all cores fully utilized. Today’s implementations of boost technology can push up the clock speed of a couple of cores when the others are idle, but with our new version of Turbo CORE you’ll see full core boost, meaning an extra 500MHz across all 16 threads for most workloads.

New Turbo Core rocks . Imagine the TDP headroom on client Zambezi parts if 16 core server part has 500Mhz headroom. 1 Ghz turbo core on 8 BD cores,anyone?

The rest is on the link.

Few more important tid bits:

Product Schedules – This is the most asked question that I get. Today we gave granularity down to the quarter. We expect to launch the client version of “Bulldozer” (code named “Zambezi”) in Q2 2011. The server products (“Interlagos” and “Valencia”) will first begin production in Q2 2011, and we expect to launch them in Q3 2011.

Die size – As a matter of fact, we are able to put 8 total cores in a piece of silicon that is smaller than our current 6-core dies.

L2 and L3 cache – Each module will have a massive 2MB L2 cache for the 2 integer cores to share and you’ll see an 8MB L3 cache shared per die (16MB on the 16-core “Interlagos” processor.)

[Oliverda]

JF-AMD on his blog :

New Turbo Core rocks . Imagine the TDP headroom on client Zambezi parts if 16 core server part has 500Mhz headroom. 1 Ghz turbo core on 8 BD cores,anyone?

The rest is on the link.

Few more important tid bits:

in slides:

[FlanK3r]

whau, thats mean, if AMD will need and we as clients will need, launch maybe 5 moduls desktop (pleeeeease :-D)

[informal]

Thanks Oliverda ,can you share a link for that particular presentation ?