http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-desk...date/8961.html
Among others: "Phenom II X4 900T series - is being shifted back to Q3 2010" ...
http://vr-zone.com/articles/amd-desk...date/8961.html
Among others: "Phenom II X4 900T series - is being shifted back to Q3 2010" ...
In other words, the 960T would likely cannibalize the sales of the higher models. So sad....
Excellent yields on 10xx series (just look at the clocks and TDPs compared to Deneb ) means less need to harvest QCs from this line. It is bad though,for those wanted a superb but extremely cheap hexa core desktop chip(via unlocking).
the numbering scheme is quite interesting.
the 1090 is the x6 top model,
so the 960 is just an upper middle x4, can we expect a 975T or in the very far future a 995T? and would they be at 3.4ghz with 3.9ghz turbo?
given that they can provide a 3.6ghz turbo'd x3 with 3 other cores still in existence at under 140W, why dont they release a x3 @3.8ghz (no turbo needed)
I'd estimate that the reason for doing so is more what informal is guessing than what MirageSys is, even though both are certainly true.
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think, its possible.
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so was the 1035T suppose to come out today? i dont recall seeing it being delayed anywhere
Q3 for 1035T and 9xxT series.No need for low clocked or disabled ones when your yields are greater than expected.AMD hit a home run with this separate die thing (Thuban),no one expected 125W and 3.2Ghz/3.6Ghz as the launch specs,people were giving it 2.8Ghz on a good day and that was with a 140W TDP rating... Now we see a X6 @ 3.2Ghz draws around 83W of power under full load(lost circuits) and this shows us how much AMD managed to cut on power and still retain high clocks for this launch. OCing,even in the case of the lowest clocked 1055T, further proves that there is a clear progress when compared to QC C3 Denebs.
why do i keep recalling 1075T and 1055T 95W were the only x6 cpus for Q3 with 3 chips being released today
Yeah sorry,I completely forgot about 1075T! I think that one is Q3 also,while the 95W 1055T is launched in parallel with 125W one. There should be another high end X6 in Q3,a 1095T(3.3Ghz/3.8GhzT ?),along with the lower clocked and "delayed" ones you mentioned before. There is clearly a room for 3.4Ghz/3.8GhzT 140W X6 now,but AMD decided to fit the new chips in 125W max TDP envelope.
a little googling and all i can see is 1055T 95W and the 1035T are coming in May, with the 1075T and 9xxT in Q3, unless that all changed. but i really want to see what it takes to get turbo 4.2 on the 1035T, cause thats looking to be the chip i would go for if its a joke to reach that
You'll need a solid board,or at least a cheap one but that can reach sky high HTT clocks...
im hoping my K9A2 Plat is up to it
It should be good,but you never know until you try.
Careful. I've had two or three of those boards blow up (power MOSFETs) without even overclocking as I recall.Originally Posted by Manicdan
As a thread about any computer related subject has its length approach infinity, the likelihood and inevitability of a poorly constructed AMD vs. Intel fight also exponentially increases.
Likewise, the frequency of a car pseudoanalogy to explain a technical concept increases with thread length. This will make many people chuckle, as computer people are rarely knowledgeable about vehicular mechanics.
When confronted with a post that is contrary to what a poster likes, believes, or most often wants to be correct, the poster will pick out only minor details that are largely irrelevant in an attempt to shut out the conflicting idea. The core of the post will be left alone since it isn't easy to contradict what the person is actually saying.
When a poster cannot properly refute a post they do not like (as described above), the poster will most likely invent fictitious counter-points and/or begin to attack the other's credibility in feeble ways that are dramatic but irrelevant. Do not underestimate this tactic, as in the online world this will sway many observers. Do not forget: Correctness is decided only by what is said last, the most loudly, or with greatest repetition.
When it comes to computer news, 70% of Internet rumors are outright fabricated, 20% are inaccurate enough to simply be discarded, and about 10% are based in reality. Grains of salt--become familiar with them.
Remember: When debating online, everyone else is ALWAYS wrong if they do not agree with you!
Random Tip o' the Whatever
You just can't win. If your product offers feature A instead of B, people will moan how A is stupid and it didn't offer B. If your product offers B instead of A, they'll likewise complain and rant about how anyone's retarded cousin could figure out A is what the market wants.
my first was the K9A2 CF, the one without the mosfet heatsink and it did blow up, the Plats are pretty solid, havnt seen those die (are u sure its the Plat, or a CF?)
He probably meant the CF version.Plats are good boards.
AMD's true next-gen architecture, Bulldozer, will be released in the form of the Zambezi CPU with up to 8 cores. The schedule for Zambezi is still rather vague at "2011".
I'm really starting to think BD is in some trouble, though I'll get ranted at for saying so here.
amd cpu schedule update? what, calling it yet another amd delay would have been too boring?
correct me if im wrong, but this is what this is, isnt it?
and yes, a "next year" launch date when the next year is only 6 months away sounds very odd indeed...
No,you have always been "predicting" some kind of trouble with AMD's roadmaps,never mind their execution of roadmaps from all segments starting with Deneb class cores is flawless .
How did I know you would respond?
Their track record with new processes and new (not tweaked) architectures is however one of substantial delay & initial difficulties.
thats true... but bringing out a new arch is quite a different thing than updating an existing arch and copy pasting some more cores to it and going multi die on package...
id like to believe that amd is executing properly now, but really... "2011"... thats all they can come up with? not even H1 or H2?
lets hope this is just very stupid/bad pr...
There are internal ,let's call them updates,and BD is fine. AMD states a vague "2011" on purpose since they can't predict every single possible scenario by the time actual product launches. A good bet would be the launch date of the first Opteron processor.
In all fairness, you will respond to any thread that mentions BD.How did I know you would respond?
*insert unforeseen manufacturing problems*cough*nvidia*cough*
I would also add that I doubt AMD wants to say "will launch on X date" considering it gives Intel a heads up. Staying vague allows them a bit of breathing room before Intel changes its roadmap.
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