Intel i5 6XX and i3 5XX Reviews

**onethreehill** · 01-03-2010, 08:59 PM

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1753
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...1-review-test/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21683
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21684
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=874
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Ha...l_core_i5_661/
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=849
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...-661,2514.html
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3704
http://www.overclockersclub.com/revi...l_core_i5_661/
http://techgage.com/article/intels_3..._for_everyone/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/308...gpu/index.html
http://www.techspot.com/news/37473-i...-graphics.html
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Inte...cessor-Debuts/
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...e_performance/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...pu-review.html
http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//i...id=73&Itemid=1
http://www.lostcircuits.com/mambo//i...id=74&Itemid=1
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...le-review.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2010/...e_i5661_review
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cpu...0-cpu-review/1
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18216
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/I...re_i5_661_GPU/
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=911

Intel Arrandale Core i5 and Core i3 Mobile CPU Reviews
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Inte...bile-Unveiled/
http://anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=3705
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...dale,2522.html
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=850
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1169/1/
http://techreport.com/articles.x/18218

**Drwho?** · 01-03-2010, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by onethreehill

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=1753
http://www.guru3d.com/article/core-i...1-review-test/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21683
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=21684
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=874

so, if you wonder if you are a good overclocker, this is what you should have got ... (those numbers come from Belgium OC team)
On Ln2 : http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=921805 6.9Ghz
On Air : http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=909358 5.4Gz

Where is the 7Ghz ?

7! 7!
I ll reward the 1st person passing 7Ghz on it ... email me

Thanks to Thomas for opening the ballet!

**jmke** · 01-03-2010, 10:23 PM

interesting conclusion: The most specific thing I can say to a potential buyer of a Clarkdale processor is this: it only makes sense to buy one if you are going to utilize the integrated graphics. If you plan on adding a discrete graphics card anyway, then it makes more sense to use that processor budget for a Lynnfield part.

sums up what market this CPU is aimed at

**Drwho?** · 01-03-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by jmke

interesting conclusion: The most specific thing I can say to a potential buyer of a Clarkdale processor is this: it only makes sense to buy one if you are going to utilize the integrated graphics. If you plan on adding a discrete graphics card anyway, then it makes more sense to use that processor budget for a Lynnfield part.

sums up what market this CPU is aimed at

Fortunatly, only around 8% of the people play 3D heavy games.

Francois

**m0da** · 01-03-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Drwho?

Fortunatly, only around 8% of the people play 3D heavy games.

Francois

Quick, make another post, your post count is frightening...

When will we see 8200-like performance from Intel IGPs?

**gallag** · 01-03-2010, 10:44 PM

pretty cool, Would have been a good day if there were some 32nm quads as well.

**ajaidev** · 01-03-2010, 10:53 PM

Humm saw quite a few reviews but is there any one among these which use a Athlon II X4 620/630??

EDIT: anandtech one has the 630 and its the best review among these !!!!!!

**Charles Wirth** · 01-03-2010, 11:06 PM

These chips are absolutely fine for budget gaming with a single GTX 260
Ignore the onboard GPU, you wont miss it.
Screamers if you push them.
For that 7Ghz SS, they need to drop one core and raise to the now visible 28x multi.

A more realistic air OC to expect with 24/7 settings.
Thermaltake 120 single low noise fan.
1800Mhz CL7-8-7-21
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=925582

**Spectrobozo** · 01-03-2010, 11:19 PM

interesting, the IGP is quite better, but overall still behind the 790GX,
the cpu is quite good, looks quite good for gaming even with only 2 cores, I would like to see a test of the cheaper one (G9650) how it overclocks, also to see how much of a benefit is HT in these dual cores in gaming (if it's something like in the i7s)

**tajoh111** · 01-03-2010, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by Spectrobozo

interesting, the IGP is quite better, but overall still behind the 790GX,
the cpu is quite good, looks quite good for gaming even with only 2 cores, I would like to see a test of the cheaper one (G9650) how it overclocks, also to see how much of a benefit is HT in these dual cores in gaming (if it's something like in the i7s)

It might be a tad slower, but in regards to power consumption, it crushes the 790gx.

**ajaidev** · 01-03-2010, 11:28 PM

Wht about 785??

**villa1n** · 01-03-2010, 11:34 PM

Wow, the performance improvement for Arrandale is awesome, will just have to wait till mid 2010 for those silicon tweaks to come and bump battery life... perfect timing as my faithful core duo LV is about reached its lifespan by summer

**ajaidev** · 01-03-2010, 11:52 PM

Based on several reviews:-

Performance
Intel Core i5-660 + P55 "$196 + $85" ~ Athlon II 630 + 785 "$113 + $80"

Total $281 vs $193
Difference = $88

Gaming "Discreet"
Intel Core i5-660 + P55 "$196 + $100" ~ Phenom II X4 955 C0 + 785 "$175 + $90"

Total $296 vs $265
Difference = $31

**dartaz** · 01-03-2010, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by ajaidev

Humm saw quite a few reviews but is there any one among these which use a Athlon II X4 620/630??

EDIT: anandtech one has the 630 and its the best review among these !!!!!!

And it seems that Core i3 530 outperformed 630 in majority of cases. Thats really a goods news specially when knowing that both are supposed to have similar price

**flippin_waffles** · 01-04-2010, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by ajaidev

Based on several reviews:-

Performance
Intel Core i5-660 + P55 "$196 + $85" ~ Athlon II 630 + 785 "$113 + $80"

Total $281 vs $193
Difference = $88

Gaming "Discreet"
Intel Core i5-660 + P55 "$196 + $100" ~ Phenom II X4 955 C0 + 785 "$175 + $90"

Total $296 vs $265
Difference = $31

Yeah, pretty underwhelming. More lower performing parts for higher price from intel here. But hey, don't let that stop ya folks! lol I must say though, i'm a little surprised by the igp, performs better than I thought it would. It's the other part of the MCM that is the underperforming/overpriced part IMO.

**Razzz** · 01-04-2010, 12:15 AM

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From 16x190 up to 25x190 frequency.
QPI scaling
iGPI Scaling
and so on...

**dartaz** · 01-04-2010, 12:17 AM

Originally Posted by ajaidev

Based on several reviews:-

Performance
Intel Core i5-660 + P55 "$196 + $85" ~ Athlon II 630 + 785 "$113 + $80"

Total $281 vs $193
Difference = $88

Gaming "Discreet"
Intel Core i5-660 + P55 "$196 + $100" ~ Phenom II X4 955 C0 + 785 "$175 + $90"

Total $296 vs $265
Difference = $31

1- Core i5 660 performs better than Athlon X4 630, you should put Core i3 530 instead of 660 for Performance

2- As far as I know, you need H55 or H57 to use the Integrated GPU. At the moment we don't know the prices of these motherboards.

**kl0012** · 01-04-2010, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by tajoh111

It might be a tad slower, but in regards to power consumption, it crushes the 790gx.

Not to mention dual-stream decode and Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA bitstreaming over HDMI which 790gx simple miss.

**ajaidev** · 01-04-2010, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by flippin_waffles

Yeah, pretty underwhelming. More lower performing parts for higher price from intel here. But hey, don't let that stop ya folks! lol I must say though, i'm a little surprised by the igp, performs better than I thought it would. It's the other part of the MCM that is the underperforming/overpriced part IMO.

Ya but still Intel Pentium G9650 seems like a good deal.

Intel Pentium G9650 + cheapo P55 "$87 + $85" - $172

Alternatively the i5 750 is a better choice instead of dual core i5's

i5 750 + P55 "$195 + $100" - $295

The only AMD alternative in performance is Athlon II 620 + 785 E51 Which would cost around $180. But getting a quad instead of a dual core i3 without HT would perform quite well.

But in games "discreet" the 620 would not be able to keep up at higher freq.

Originally Posted by dartaz

1- Core i5 660 performs better than Athlon X4 630, you should put Core i3 530 instead of 660 for Performance

2- As far as I know, you need H55 or H57 to use the Integrated GPU. At the moment we don't know the prices of these motherboards.

Recheck the real world benches !!

I wrote Discreet there...

Originally Posted by kl0012

Not to mention dual-stream decode and Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA bitstreaming over HDMI which 790gx simple miss.

Yep the dual-stream decode and and Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA is very useful, specially the Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA. The only way AMD can get in the same boat is by using a ATi 5 series low end card.

**flippin_waffles** · 01-04-2010, 12:36 AM

Yeah, the higher frequency will def help in older games.

As far as these reviews go, it seems the majority of these so called journalists lack any sort of intergrity whatsoever. Now they premise their articles and base their conlcusions on core count. lol How bloody ridiculous is that. It's a great product because it tries to compete with only 2 cores. Well news flash, that's the way intel designed their architecture. The part that means absolutely anything is the price point they are targeting, and that puts them in the league of pretty high end quad cores, so no it's not cmpetitive in the least whether it's 1,2, 40, or 599 cores.

Do we compare graphics cards on the basis of cores? The 5870 blows donkey balls because it uses 1600 cores? I mean, why not just get intel to write the reviews for ya? I LOL

**saaya** · 01-04-2010, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Drwho?

Where is the 7Ghz ?

7! 7!
I ll reward the 1st person passing 7Ghz on it ... email me

push intel to release an unlocked i3 XE cpu already and you will have 7.5ghz within a few weeks

**ajaidev** · 01-04-2010, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by saaya

push intel to release an unlocked i3 XE cpu already and you will have 7.5ghz within a few weeks

If its a XE it would be a i5 rather than a i3...lol

**LardArse** · 01-04-2010, 01:20 AM

BCLK is not the issue for 7G with 660/670, just needs LHe

**Raja@ASUS** · 01-04-2010, 01:43 AM

Where the unlocked multi might help is keeping the latency low (lower BCLK with higher 'QPI' multi). That being said, it is highly unlikely Intel will release an unlocked XE edition of these processors (we never got Wolfdale either).

Some kind of MCH~DRAM skew options might help depending on what the IMC logic allows. Again, down to Intel to release the info and make it possible (if it can be done).

later
Raja

**dartaz** · 01-04-2010, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by ajaidev

Recheck the real world benches !!

I wrote Discreet there...

For same prince of i5 660 you can get i5 750

I don't see the point of i5 6xx unless you want to use Intel GPU

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