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    New (green) Intel CPUs january 18th and new SSDs/Pricecuts

    Seems the increased green view is expanding

    Q9550s 2.83 GHz 12MB 1333 MHz $369

    Q9400s 2.66 GHz 6MB 1333 MHz $320

    Q8200s 2.33 GHz 4MB 1333 MHz $245
    Beginning on January 18, Intel will launch three new Core 2 Quad processors with a TDP of just 65W. This is compared to a 95W TDP for most other Core 2 Quad processors. At the time of launch, the price premium for the Q8200s, Q9400s, and Q9550s will be $62, $54, and $53 respectively compared to the non "s" models.
    Intel is also launching a new Pentium Dual Core processor in November and one more on January 18. The 2.6 GHz Pentium Dual Core E5300 will show up on November 30 priced at $86. The E5300 will be joined by a 2.7 GHz Pentium Dual Core E5400 on January 18 priced at $84. At that time, the E5300 will see a price cut to $74 while the older 2.5 GHz E5200 will fall to $64.

    Slightly higher up on the food chain will be a new 2.93 GHz Core 2 Duo E7500 priced at $133
    Intel's power efficient 35W processor lineup will also see some changes in at the end of the year. No less than five new processors will be introduced ranging in price from $241 to $530. In addition, the slower 2.4 GHz Core 2 Duo P8600 will fall from $241 to $209 on January 18.

    Intel also hasn't forgotten about its other businesses when it comes to price cuts. Intel's multi-level cell (MLC) X25-E solid state drives (SSDs) have been burning up the benchmark charts thanks to its highly optimized memory controller. The street price for the 2.5" 80GB X25-M -- and its 80GB 1.8" X18-M counterpart -- will drop from $600 to $525 on November 30. 160GB variants of the X25-M/X18-M will show up in the first half of 2009 and will initially be priced at $990.

    Moving over to the single-level cell (SLC) parts, Intel will introduce its high performance 32GB X25-E for $700 on November 30. For those that are patient, the price will drop to $575 on December 28. A 64GB part will be introduced in the first half of 2009 for $990.
    http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=13449

    990$ 160GB SSD for me
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    But my Q9400 already consumes less than 60W...

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    Isn't the P8600 running at 3,4 GHz.? 2,4GHz. seemed so odd....

    They have to slash those SSD prices by at least 1/5th, this is still ridiculously expensive. The "M" in Intel X25-M is supposed to stand for something like mainstream, but this is far from it. I hope we will have some more competition in the SSD market, starting next year.
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    They can't do that.

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    That e7500 will have a high multiplier I presume. It should be really good for an under 500$ budget OC rig.

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    Q9550s 2.83 GHz 12MB 1333 MHz $369


    Does anyone know how Intel brought down the TDP to 65W?



    What changes have they made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsbb View Post
    Q9550s 2.83 GHz 12MB 1333 MHz $369


    Does anyone know how Intel brought down the TDP to 65W?



    What changes have they made?
    The QX9650 only uses ~65W, but it's rated at 95W. I bet they undervolted a bit, and just adjusted their TDPs. Only the 9770 uses above 65W, Intel's been overrating their TDPs on their CPUs for a while.

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    might overclock better...

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsbb View Post
    Q9550s 2.83 GHz 12MB 1333 MHz $369


    Does anyone know how Intel brought down the TDP to 65W?



    What changes have they made?
    Quote Originally Posted by ryboto View Post
    But my Q9400 already consumes less than 60W...
    Highly optimised process, lots of CPUs will consume close to that from the start, no? Most likely they lowered the voltage slightly. Great way to monetize the trend towards green computing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacky View Post
    Highly optimised process, lots of CPUs will consume close to that from the start, no? Most likely they lowered the voltage slightly. Great way to monetize the trend towards green computing.
    The only thing green about my PC is the color of the system LEDs

    It is kind of funny in a way seeing all these PC performance enthusiasts on here talking about "green" computing. Most PCs here use more power than ever

    On a more serious note, lower power consumption does mean easier to cool and possibly cheaper to run, depending on how much difference there is.
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    LOL why would Intel throw a lower case "s" on the end of these models. It just makes everything seem so....plural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    The only thing green about my PC is the color of the system LEDs

    It is kind of funny in a way seeing all these PC performance enthusiasts on here talking about "green" computing. Most PCs here use more power than ever
    Ain't that the truth, more like my system consumes 500w when its idle if it idles, I game and crunch 28hrs a day 9 days a week 60 weeks a year 15 years a decade, I AM XTREME damnit.
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    32GB SLC for less than what the MLC's currently cost? Perhaps by late next year the 64GB SLC will be reachable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helmore View Post
    They have to slash those SSD prices by at least 1/5th, this is still ridiculously expensive. The "M" in Intel X25-M is supposed to stand for something like mainstream, but this is far from it. I hope we will have some more competition in the SSD market, starting next year.
    The M stands for MLC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polizei View Post
    The M stands for MLC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
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    nice way from intel to increase prices without much effort, just a bit speed binning, the power consumption was already in that tdp range

    there will always be people that buy the more green one, although the added green value with a quad core can be discussable (unless its for server/workstation)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polizei View Post
    The M stands for MLC.

    Welcome to xtremesystems and the computer hobby - the place where you lean that performance isn't cheap unless you're talking about cardboard box ducting for your CPU heatsink.
    Let me guess, the "E" in Intel X25-E stands for SLC....
    Check the first Intel slide on this review here:
    http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...oc.aspx?i=3403
    There it quite obviously says the M stands for Mainstream, at least that's the way it seems to me.
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    M for Mainstream (using MLC) and E for Extreme (using SLC) IMO.
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    MLC is the cheapest form of memory in an SSD. That is why it's maintstream. That is why you can buy POS JMicron-based SSDs for under $100 now, because they use cheap controllers and cheap flash memory.

    SLC requires a better controller, so it's faster, meaning not mainstream, meaning not cheap.

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    how will this lower power consumption affect OC's? i'm sure (almost) no one on here keeps their chips at stock speed. hoping that lower power means a lower VID, so more headroom to increase the vcore. hopefully this translates to higher clocks at the same vcore as the current q9550 E0

    as for the SSD's, are there any benchmarks to compare the 80GB X25-M (MLC) to the 32GB X25-E (SLC)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFireDragon View Post
    how will this lower power consumption affect OC's? i'm sure (almost) no one on here keeps their chips at stock speed. hoping that lower power means a lower VID, so more headroom to increase the vcore. hopefully this translates to higher clocks at the same vcore as the current q9550 E0

    as for the SSD's, are there any benchmarks to compare the 80GB X25-M (MLC) to the 32GB X25-E (SLC)?
    The lower power chips are binned to work on lower stock voltages, this will then result in lower power consumption. For us it means the CPU has more headroom in general as you can still increase the voltage to the same level as the 'normal' version of the chip, but you start from a lower 'starting position'.
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    So P8600 means a E8600 - 30W? If so im sure ill grab one to last long my 775 platform

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morais View Post
    So P8600 means a E8600 - 30W? If so im sure ill grab one to last long my 775 platform
    no, it's not just a e8600 with lower power consumptions. p8600 is a laptop CPU, and it's 2.4ghz, not 3.33
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    argh, so no <65W dual cores 775? Might grab a 65W quad then

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