Just ordered Phenom 9950 BE

[Titan7171]

So Ive taken the plunge, I have a 6400X2 @3.52 right now and Ive been wanting to go Phenom for a while. Once I heard the 9950 was coming out and would be the same price as the 9850 was I figured wth, its time.

Im on MSI K9a2 Platinum V1, 4x1gig pc6400 and HD2900XT. My cpu cooler is Thermalright SI-128 SE which keeps my current cpu @ 22-26c@ 1.47v

Next upgrade will be 2x2gig G-skill and then 4870X2 when its released.

phenom should be here by wednesday or thursday......cant wait!

[perkam]

Congrats Let us know how it works out

Perkam

[carajean]

I expect prompt performance answers when u get the proc. I have decided to make that proc part of my new amd build, but I was kinda waiting for the new chipset to drop first.

[philbrown23]

dont take this the wrong way but....why?

[carajean]

Which part are you asking why to?

[Daveburt714]

WTG, Titan... I just noticed they became availible on the Egg today.

Be sure to update us when you get it installed, I'm curious too!

I have a few tips for you if your interested, since I'm running a similar setup.

1) Coming from the X2 it's easy to go crazy with voltages on Phenoms... Just be aware that it's not always the best option, and many times you'll get better/more stable results at lower v's. Phenoms seem to be more sensitive to electro-migration.

2) The v1.5 bios for the K9A2 is the best release version so far for Phenom, even though it doesn't have a NB Multi option it's pretty easy to OC the HT Ref clock to 210~220 (2100~2200 IMC) which has been pretty close to the stability limit on all 3 of my Phenoms.

3) My best chip (9850) is actually only truely stable @ 2.835 Ghz. Hopefully the 9950 will be better, but if your looking for true stability don't get sucked into all the 3.5 stuff you see some people posting...

Good Luck and Have Fun!!
If you like to OC these chips are a blast to play with...

[aGeoM]

let us know how it goes.

[gOtVoltage]

Ive already seen one 9950@3.6ghz with the stock cooler for max OC and 3.3ghz stable...I was ready to order a 9850BE in the NEXT WEEK ,,So now i guess ill be ordering a 9950BE because of the newer batches...the silicon is improving),,Like a nice wine we shall see with time....

Get that puppy Oced and make it Barrrrk WOLFiNsheepSkin!

P.S. http://forums.amd.com/forum/messagev...&enterthread=y Greek 3.6ghz

[carajean]

I was wondering since I prolly wont wait for the new chipset, would the original posters board be a good one or should i get the asus mvp deluxe?? I mean right now its like a $60 or more price difference.

[RobPuba]

Name Phenom 9850 Phenom 9950
Operating Frequency 2.5GHz 2.6GHz
Hyper Transports 4000MHz 3600MHz

[informal]

Just to add in a post i found on coolaler's site(windwithme reviewing ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE with a phenom 9950!):
http://forum.coolaler.com/showpost.p...45&postcount=4

OCed to 3.1Ghz with def. vcore,scroll down to the PCmark05 benchmark(from there starts the OCed results).
3.1Ghz om the Nv based mobo and with that Vcore is a great result.

Name Phenom 9850 Phenom 9950
Operating Frequency 2.5GHz 2.6GHz
Hyper Transports 4000MHz 3600MHz

It's a typo,the 9950 has the same HT speed of "4"Ghz,or to be more precise,the HT/NB works at 2Ghz.

[Macadamia]

@informal

Are you *really* sure?

The reduced TDP could be due to less NB clocks/volts. Just a theory.

[alexio]

Processor AMD Phenom™ X4 Quad-Core
Model Number 9950
Frequency (MHz) 2600
L2 Cache Size (KB) 512
Socket AM2+
Stepping B3
Manufacturing Tech (CMOS) 65nm SOI
Wattage (W) 140 W
System Bus (MHz) 4000

Source: AMD

[informal]

Macadamia,yes i am sure .And BTW,9950 actually draws *less* power than 9850 .140W figure is just a requirement for ACC(adv. clock calibration) found in new SB750,for the new OCing capabilities with Phenoms(since the chip will probably be auto clocked on SB750 mobo,it needs a more comfortable TDP number).

[MomijiTMO]

I'd love to know how these chips fly. Cheers for the future info.

[Rammsteiner]

the silicon is improving)

Yeah, I really think this is the case. If you look at all the reviews so far, they AFAIK all managed to get it above 3Ghz without problems. And this was all done on SB600 boards as well. So Im really curious what the SB750 might add to this.

Even if the OC's wont go higher with the Phenom 9950BE (while for example the older 9850BE might get higher), maybe we still can expect lower Voltages.

Also Im very curious how the NB will OC. Higher NB clocks really increase some performance here and there.

[Mechromancer]

If you're a gamer you would really benefit from a HD 4870 GPU upgrade. I have a lowly Opteron 185@2.88Ghz and installed a Diamond 4870 yesterday to replace my 2900XT. It is 2x faster in all my games with AA and AF cranked. Without AA and AF its over 2x faster than my old 2900XT. Since you have a 3.5Ghz X2, you'll see your biggest gains from a GPU upgrade. It will definitely tide you over until you can get your hands on an SB750 mobo.

[justapost]

Macadamia,yes i am sure .And BTW,9950 actually draws *less* power than 9850 .140W figure is just a requirement for ACC(adv. clock calibration) found in new SB750,for the new OCing capabilities with Phenoms(since the chip will probably be auto clocked on SB750 mobo,it needs a more comfortable TDP number).

Very well explained informal.
So with ACC enabled the cpu works with higher currents (and current limits).
Hope my 9950be arrives tomorrow.

[informal]

Hi justapost,thanks

In addition to your post,it seems that AMD has gone the route of lowering certain voltage levels(I/O related?) when it comes to SB750.I'm sure you have seen the slide before here (1.8V/3.3V level shifter circuit,needed for direct connection of Phenom and SB pins).Hopefully,the integrated clock generator in SB750 will eliminate the idle freezing problems and bring overall better clocks.

[Nedjo]

Just to add in a post i found on coolaler's site(windwithme reviewing ASUS M3N-HT DELUXE with a phenom 9950!):
http://forum.coolaler.com/showpost.p...45&postcount=4

I wonder what happened to windwithme he wasn't here for a long time!?

[justapost]

Hi justapost,thanks

In addition to your post,it seems that AMD has gone the route of lowering certain voltage levels(I/O related?) when it comes to SB750.I'm sure you have seen the slide before here (1.8V/3.3V level shifter circuit,needed for direct connection of Phenom and SB pins).Hopefully,the integrated clock generator in SB750 will eliminate the idle freezing problems and bring overall better clocks.

Yeah i've seen this slide. To me it looks like with those connections the cpu is able to use higher currents, with the sb monitoring the frequency and adjusting the voltages. It's more a voltage/current calibration then a clock calibration seen that way.
From what i've heard all the new sb750 boards also support using less phases, so the overall powerconsumption should go down abit.

[tbone8ty]

HT = 3600mhz?

at least that was it says on the newegg link

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103273

[informal]

Newegg link is just wrong..Look at AMD's product page for 9950 and look at numerous reviews for the same chip.All show 2Ghz for NB/HT,just like the 9850.

[ea6gka]

my 9950 arrives tomorrow too.

[D-Cyph3r]

Mine comes end of the week aswell....



Shame I got no mobo to stick it in


(Waiting foir SB750 boards aswell)