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    Do I really have to...

    Ok, I have a few questions that are eating at me.

    1) My CPU block did not come with a backplate. I didn't even know much about them when I installed it. Why don't they include one in the box for the $$ you pay? Is it really a big deal to run it this way? I would rather not take it back apart unless I am really flirting with danger.

    2) I was going to be a sport, and disconnect both my blocks when I run the loop for it's first 24 hours to check for leaks. I went to disconnect the NB block by removing the 4 screws and nothing happens. Then the cold harsh reality hits me that this is all 1 solid peace. I am looking at having to remove the SB, NB, some heat sinks, and the motherboard to do a leak check 'by the book'.

    I have seen other having issues removing all the stock cooling, so don't think it will be an easy thing for me to just pop it off!

    I only have a few hose connections, and 2 blocks inside the case. My pump, rad, and a host of other connections will be outside the case in the WaterKeg. How risky would it be to leave my new computer totally unplugged, with the blocks connected as is, and do the 24 hour leak test?

    I would monitor it like my first born.

    I can plug the WaterKeg into another PC that I currently use, so the pump can run even with the new system unplugged.

    I really don't want to take everything apart just thinking my 8 hose clamps are going to spring leaks. I really think they are all on just right...

    O.K. Light me up!!
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    depending on how bent your board is.... If bent alot i would buy a backplate...
    you don't have to dissemble your loop just take the block off and screw's through the mobo and use a backplate and put the screw's back through...

    I have a scythe backplate work's nicely the mobo still has a slight warp to it...but nothing compared to how it was without one...

    afaik d-tek have never supplied a backplate with their fuzion block....
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    in regards to leak test you *LOOK* ok

    i put my rig together and fired it right up.

    been running for like 2.5 yrs now almost 24/7 with NO servicing at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    depending on how bent your board is.... If bent alot i would buy a backplate...
    you don't have to dissemble your loop just take the block off and screw's through the mobo and use a backplate and put the screw's back through..
    Thanks for the reply.

    As far as how much my mobo is bending, I don't see any really, but it is hard to tell.

    If I take the screws back through to incert a backplate, that is pritty much disconnecting all my wires, and dis-mounting the motherboard.... hmmm

    I saw one dude in the Water cooled gallery just used paper towles by each block to check for leaks. That might work?

    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    afaik d-tek have never supplied a backplate with their fuzion block....
    Thoes Dogs!! Good thing thay make a killer block I guess.
    Last edited by Talonman; 10-29-2007 at 07:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madmaxx View Post
    in regards to leak test you *LOOK* ok

    i put my rig together and fired it right up.

    been running for like 2.5 yrs now almost 24/7 with NO servicing at all
    Thanks for your vote! You know that was the answer I was looking for.
    Last edited by Talonman; 10-29-2007 at 07:21 PM.
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    I saw one dude in the Water cooled gallery just used paper towles by each block to check for leaks. That might work?
    yes... double check all your barb's (not to loose not to tight,finger tight then quarter turn)... and make sure you didn't clamp the tubes to tight.... then add paper towel's @ each barb's look for leak's while priming and during testing...
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    where are the springs on the fuzion block the washers on my block are near the end of the poles on mine with the springs, i run my loops off another pc's psu for few hours before powering up, dont have a backplate on my block neither though in using a 680i board had no problems at all, running 3ghz e6600 core 0 19c core 1 16c

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    Oh my gosh!!! Good call Jay, I put them back under the mounting plate...

    I will change that!! Thanks again buddy.

    I deleted my funky mounting pictures, that were in my origional post to save some bandwidth.
    Last edited by Talonman; 10-30-2007 at 04:00 AM.
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    Fixed it!! I can tell the block will work better this way.

    Last edited by Talonman; 10-29-2007 at 08:24 PM.
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    Easy leak test, Connect all tubes but one, put finger over one open side and blow into the other, if you feel like the air is escaping then try fix it

    and I didnt use a backplate on my storm and I tightened that thing untill the board was bent and it was fine

    my apogee GTX does have a backplate and I do prefer it but your good without it

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    Thanks for the input!

    Air pressure check: Passed!!
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    Just hook another PSU up to the pump, and jump the PSU by connecting the green wire to one of the black ground wires of the 24-pin connector with a paper clip.

    That's what I do when I feel like leak-testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_lee300 View Post
    where are the springs on the fuzion block the washers on my block are near the end of the poles on mine with the springs, i run my loops off another pc's psu for few hours before powering up, dont have a backplate on my block neither though in using a 680i board had no problems at all, running 3ghz e6600 core 0 19c core 1 16c
    Yeah, I was thinkin the same thing

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    It is good for us first time builders to post pictures and let you guy's eyeball it...

    It might keep us out of the woods on a few things.

    Im sure that little tip lowered my CPU temp by a few C!!

    (Run the springs on the top of the bracket) Got it!!
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    Just a suggestion. Install your ram modules in each of the blue slots. DIMM 1 and 3 that way it'll run in ddr. If you have any questions just pm me.

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    Sounds good. I only have (1) 2 GIG in until I can install the Vista Hot fix, then I will put the second module in for 4 GB total.

    My first one is currently in the blue slot #1.

    One thing that will be nice in reguard to burping the lines, I can pick my PC up and spin it around withought spilling anything inside the case.
    Last edited by Talonman; 10-29-2007 at 09:18 PM.
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