Picked up 3 blocks from the machinist today, the storm, apogee and fuzion. Now I just need to test to see if it works... I think I may have gone a mm or two too big on the step (diameter wise, not depth). I also had him lap them so they are FLAT, no BOW WHATSOEVER. This required the fuzion to be lapped ASSEMBLED. Will update when I have some data, but now a couple of pics.
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Originally Posted by ranker
I'll admit, I'm sort of lost in seeing the benefit here. I'll wait for your results.
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Same, unless you also had the "core" area shaved down as well.
Time will tell.
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i can see benefits of doing it if diameter (outer) was less than size of ihs ...
Think of the dynamics of an IHS for a second. Have you ever seen the underside of it? Well it has a ridge around it for support round the outer edge. If you can apply pressure INSIDE of that ridge you can get more pressure on the die(s). An unmodded or unbowed block can be bolted down with 200 lb. of pressure yet the outer support of the IHS is taking the brunt of this pressure off of the center. This is why a bowed block works well. This is the same concept but IMO done correctly which is FLAT.
We shall see.
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Cant wait to see the results... But I'm also a little confused...
Perhaps, The step is there so the block will bow ITSELF inwards when mounted? I could be very wrong, But we shall see. If the middle was already lapped to a bow, I could see that idea working very well, Seeing as it would offset the inwards bend from the mount.
Crap IDK if I made any sense, I've been awake for 30 hours now... And counting.
EDIT: My god, He's on to something!
I have a feeling I may need to bring my Fuzion into Techshop soon...
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nikhsub1, is ur cpu lapped?
The center step is SIGNIFICANTY smaller than the IHS, perhaps another picture will help.
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that answers all questions (mine anyways) wonder how storm will preform.
darn 1 more arent u concern with putting 2 much pressure on silicon?
u know
"the outer support of the IHS is taking the brunt of this pressure off of the center. This is why a bowed block works well. This is the same concept but IMO done correctly which is FLAT."
thank you nikhsub1.. this is the first time I actually seen an explanation about bowed blocks that actually makes perfect sense in my noob brain
that's some damn nice looking work on those blocks...can't wait for results
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As long as you put the pressure on EVENLY, It's pretty strong. Think of it as a piece of glass, If you get the pressure even on all corners, you can apply hundreds of pounds. But if the weight favors one side, Then you can chip a corner off. TBH, Idk how much you have to chip off to kill it. I've chipped some AXP's, NF4 chipsets, And a few GPUs... They still work.
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wonder how easy this will be to get done in Tampa, FL if it works
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Looking forward to the results, I like the idea of concentrating a flat not bowed surface on the IHS center. Without the outer edges of the IHS to support the weight it should give equal pressure across the cores that I don't feel that we get with bowed blocks.
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Me tooLooking forward to the results, I like the idea of concentrating a flat not bowed surface on the IHS center. Without the outer edges of the IHS to support the weight it should give equal pressure across the cores that I don't feel that we get with bowed blocks.
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maybe with some copper 90 degree elbows and proper mounting, they could be our new high performance gpu blocks =D
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Am i seeing that correctly? do you not only want to cool the top of the ihs but the vertical wall of it too? If so arn't the block's milled the wrong way?
Hmmm, would be interested seeing the results...
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Same trick I talked in an article to avoid bow
I too would like to see the results. If they are good I know of a few cnc shops nearby. May have to see what it would cost to have done.
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Nice one Nick, really good work done on them blocks. I look forward to the tests
Long time no see rosco! Yeah I guess so, lol. What size do you think would be optimum for the center 'patch'. I think I've gone a bit too big... mine is 24mm sq. and .75mm high. I'm thinking 22mm sq may be better? I wish I knew the dimension of a quad core without the IHS.Same trick I talked in an article to avoid bow
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You, my friend, are a genius. I was skeptical, but seeing this does prove that you did have a doozy of an idea.
Excellent work, and also applicable on any platform...
I'm pretty sure this will bring the Storm back...
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Nice! Eagerly awaiting your testing results
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