Can AMD K10 break 30 000 in 3dmark06?

[zakelwe]

From here

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=41970

and our intrepid news section hounds

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=156932

[Gautam]

Andy, I should call a mod in here to give you an infraction for double posting.

(I want to believe it can...but my logical side says, no way with only 2 GPU's)

[zakelwe]

It's just taken me 5 minutes to work out the Poll option Gautam, I'm surprised I did not zero post rather than double I guess I'm a bit of a noob in some respects!



Rather an interesting topic tonight though don't you think, thought our experts would like to comment? After all we do have the worlds most knowledgeable 3d bench people posting here.....

Regards

Andy

[dinos22]

lol andy hypothesising and all

i think AMD CPUs handling decent negative temps will be key

fingers crossed they operate a bit better and can manage at least dryice temps

[k|ngp|n]

500mhz = 7k gain in score Crazy if true.

[dinos22]

500mhz = 7k gain in score Crazy if true.

rly
birdies starting to talk it up big time

[Kinc]

Oh Theo what have you started

[dinos22]

good one

[k|ngp|n]

rly
birdies starting to talk it up big time

Thats what is stated in other post. Bet that was 05 and not 06
Cant say till see real screenshot really

[dinos22]

Thats what is stated in other post. Bet that was 05 and not 06

hahah i just saw that other thread


i hear that September will be a VERY interesting month

[Gautam]

It's 06...but it might be triple CrossFire???

let the rumor mill keep spinnin its sweet silk.

[k|ngp|n]

It's 06...but it might be triple CrossFire???

let the rumor mill keep spinnin its sweet silk.

Who knows but those are some huge numbers if 2006. Rumors are more fun than reality anyways

[Kinc]

Dual quads and Trifire. That would make it more belivable for sure

[zakelwe]

From my perspective, being rather old, it is a very rare thing indeed for a none expert 3dbencher with new equipment to be able to go in and snatch the Orb away from the experts using old generation stuff. I cannot think of any time at all. True, eventually the front page of the ORB will fill up with say K7, then Northwood, then K8, then the odd Dothan, then Conroe etc but it always in the hands of the Kingpin, Kinc, Sampsa, Shamino, Hipro, Macci, Oppainter, FUGGER, MickeyMouse's of this world, not Joe bloggs.

So if this is true then 1) I am a bit disappointed but 2) Imagine what can be done in the future from the aforementioned !

Mind you I still think it is complete bollox if you pin me down on the matter

Regards

Andy

[cadaveca]

i think not likely either, but somehow i hope that
1. double pci-e speed
2. double the number of pci-e lanes
3. double the number of cpu's
4. double the number of vidcards



would be double my Core2 system @ 3ghz.

Then, i think it's possible.


But, sounds like '05, if the first three doubles listed above are not met. R600 is definately cpu-limited.


Now, if that was 8800's, i think noone would have the same qualms...

[Gautam]

I am going to go out on a limb and vote "yes." I do personally believe that 30k has been done with some AMD setup. Time will tell if I have to bite my words. The fact that Theo said 30k has been broken is enough for me to believe that 30k has been broken.

Maybe it's with 3 cards, maybe its with 4 cards, maybe its with multiple CPU's. Either way I think its been done, so invariably we are going to be seeing very huge scores this year.

I'm saying this totally knowing I'm probably going to look like an utter fool within 2 months. (If I don't already)

[dinos22]

Theo specifies the setup concisely so there should be no confusion

if he was lying we will be onto him and he will really shoot himself in the foot if those results cannot be redone when these CPUs are out

The particular processor was none other than a single socket Barcelona or Agena FX, call it what you will. The reference motherboard containing RD790 chipset packed two HD 2900XT cards, and the memory installed was Corsair’s Dominator PC2-9136C5D, or the same ones we have been using ever since they came out. There was a Raptor hard drive, and that was about that. OCZ will like the fact that PP&C Quaddie CrossFire PSU was installed in the system.

Windows Me II (Vista) Ultimate was installed as the operating system of choice. For some odd reason, the 32-bit version was installed in a system with 4GB of memory, needless to say the system detected 3.24GB, and benchmarketing commenced.

When running at 2.5GHz, the 3DMark06 score ended at 23.768, so we were thrilled to see such a good score coming from two 512MB cards. This showed the clear potential of this four core processor marchitecture, but the helter skelter ride happened after we overclocked the processor to 3.0GHz.

When clocked at 3.0 GHz and equipped with two overclocked HD2900XT cards in CrossFire, Agena FX or single-core Barcelona smashed an index of 30,000 3DMarks 06. Yes, you’ve read it right - the barrier of 30,000 was passed to, barely, 30.031. We know that there are different systems floating around, and we have no doubt that leaks will start appearing after this article goes live. Knowing what was the overclock of Kentsfield processor, Intel Yorkfield has quite a big job to do. One thing is clear, though. Intel needs Nehalem, and it needs it badly.

To be clear with you, dear readers, two HD2900XT cards were overclocked to 830MHz for the core and 900MHz for the memory, but ominous Catalyst 7.7 drivers were used.

Memory wise, it is particularly interesting to see benchmark scores of DDR2-800 on AMD’s Athlon 64 X2 or now this Phenom FX something. When running in dual channel mode, a theoretical bandwidth of 12.8 GB/s can be reached, but that is a pipe dream - of course.

ok so KP it was not just 500MHz CPU clocks but rather overclocked cards PLUS possible new driver....as he doesn't say what he used on first run....i assume the drive is the same
i also assume that RAM was overclocked as well but i don't know what sort of impact that would have on the scores with these AMD CPUs

if Stephen was around he could shed some light on this subject

[Jimmer411]

I hope it can. either way I believe it will outperform K8.

[Sparky]

I hope it can. either way I believe it will outperform K8.

ha it had better beat K8 or AMD just spent all this time and money doing nothing.

Though, I suppose you could say that intel initially wasted its time and money with the P4 release.... But hopefully both companies learned from that mistake.

[afireinside]

I believe it's possible, but it has to be tri CF and not 2.

[G H Z]

I'll believe it when I see it. If you take the details above as true, it's interesting to me this was done on Vista. Vista & K10 w/IMC = big performance jump? That is an interesting possibility and could very well be true (too bad they left out the CPU scores). FM is saying the upcoming 3DMark will only run on Vista so it looks like we'll be leaving the preferred setup behind, just as we did with DX8/2000 for 3DMark 01

[cadaveca]

hmmm..i say, SKT 1207 for this system, or AM2+?

if 1207, I'm sold.

[[XC] gomeler]

I'm not going to say it's impossible but not probable. I just hope these chips don't coldbug at -25C...

[Gautam]

Theo specifies the setup concisely so there should be no confusion

Maybe there should be, maybe there shouldn't be.

[Enoc]

this is what rahul sood said in his blog...i don't think he's going to lie in the position he is...

"So, AMD decided to unveil Phenom running at 3.0GHz without showing actual benchmarks. What it showed was a game running smoothly with all details enabled, which makes perfect sense to me. And for the record, if you were to benchmark Phenom at 3GHz you would see that it kicks the living crap out of any current AMD or Intel processor—it is a stone cold killer (at 3GHz, now imagine how it would perform if they could squeek some more juice out of it?).

personally i think this setup was with 3 cards...everytime they have demoed the barcelona is running if we can call it like this "triple crossfire"...