DX10 to be backported to XP....

[Eastcoasthandle]

what can you try this out on? Will it improve current DX9 games?
Can someone try this on 3dmark?

[Shintai]

what can you try this out on? Will it improve current DX9 games?
Can someone try this on 3dmark?

It wont do anything for DX9. Remember Vista got BOTH DX10 and DX9L.

And DX10 performance with this..if it works. Will be very very poor :P

[gdogg]

I wonder if it will be any better than software dx10 acceleration.

[Kenetixx]

This could be a good thing if implemented the right way. It will be interesting to see if it runs slower then Vista. Now all we need are some fully fledged DX10 games to give it a whirl.

[deathman20]

I say this would be iffy. I doubt it til I we see some DX10 screenies on it weather its tech demos or what not. If anything its not native its going to be slow, probably run as an emulator.

[grimREEFER]

I say this would be iffy. I doubt it til I we see some DX10 screenies on it weather its tech demos or what not. If anything its not native its going to be slow, probably run as an emulator.

yea, thats what i was thinking.

[Syn.]

Now we have no more reason of upgrading to Vista... DX10 was is main battle horse... Now, it's clear that i'll stay with XP... Lighter, more stable and with DX10... That's a great news, really!

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4. BitLocker
5. DirectX 10
6. WDM
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XP 4 OLD

[asmodean]

isnt there an option for dx10 shaders in CoH? Someone with a decent rig should test it

[deathman20]

isnt there an option for dx10 shaders in CoH? Someone with a decent rig should test it

Well you can just run the nVidia DX10 demo that they have out if not mistaken and try it.

CoH doesn't have DX10 shaders in it yet thats coming later this year.

[theteamaqua]

i wont believe it until its prove to be working

[MarlboroMan]

most of 3rd party drivers/port are buggy and unstable, specially on Windows OS (closed source)
MS need to backport in order to make it work right, otherwise it will be buggy/laggy

[Rock&Roll]

most of 3rd party drivers/port are buggy and unstable, specially on Windows OS (closed source)
MS need to backport in order to make it work right, otherwise it will be buggy/laggy

pretty much what I was thinking.....Getting DX10 fully stable on XP is going to be some major work. These things usually never develop to the point that they are truly dependable.

[gdogg]

I say this would be iffy. I doubt it til I we see some DX10 screenies on it weather its tech demos or what not. If anything its not native its going to be slow, probably run as an emulator.

tried, they don't work.

gets an error of missing ... lines or some s***

[snq]

This is a joke...

I would've expected to find DX9 code in his d3d10.dll. Instead I found nothing of that, but I did find opengl code Not very optimal...

So I wouldn't have too high hopes for this thing. Check that forum link as well, they seem to have thing for vaporware and having ppl donate cash for nothing.

[Shintai]

Hmm quite clever (if a scam), since so many seems desperate for DX10 on XP.

Could be quite a cashcow.

[Brother Esau]

Great news indeed! But with Microsofts track record with their newly aquired tactics of forceing people to upgrade hardware just to run Vista and all the crap flying around the net of the power move they have plans to force people into using Vista one way or another wether it be discontinueing support for XP or what ever, I would take that with a grain of salt as it contradicts everything we have been seeing & hearing with the current happening's.

[deathman20]

tried, they don't work.

gets an error of missing ... lines or some s***

Well if it can't run a simple tech demo I'd say that hes a LONG ways away from running anything complicated like games.

[Serra]

Great news indeed! But with Microsofts track record with their newly aquired tactics of forceing people to upgrade hardware just to run Vista and all the crap flying around the net of the power move they have plans to force people into using Vista one way or another wether it be discontinueing support for XP or what ever, I would take that with a grain of salt as it contradicts everything we have been seeing & hearing with the current happening's.

First Bold:
You're honestly complaining that they're increasing the hardware requirements for Vista over what was required for XP? You do realize that XP came out 2001, SP2 in 2004... 3 - 6 YEARS worth of hardware advancement there. At the same time, Windows XP requires more than my old Windows 95 did, should I complain about that too (because the time difference was about equal). Now, had you said that you were annoyed that they were doing things like DX10 before hardware was even really available, that'd be a fair argument though.

Second Bold:
Support for Windows 98 was only discontinued late *last summer*, 6 years after the successor (windows 2000) was released. Assuming the same type of trend, this would mean Windows XP would still be supported until around 2012-2015.

M$ is hardly forcing you to do anything - they're simply progressing.

[triple_A]

Well, it doesn't seem to work for me nether..

Dammit microsoft, just realease one last servicepack for XP (SP3) with DX10 integrated or something like that

[G.Foyle]

First Bold:
You're honestly complaining that they're increasing the hardware requirements for Vista over what was required for XP? You do realize that XP came out 2001, SP2 in 2004... 3 - 6 YEARS worth of hardware advancement there. At the same time, Windows XP requires more than my old Windows 95 did, should I complain about that too (because the time difference was about equal). Now, had you said that you were annoyed that they were doing things like DX10 before hardware was even really available, that'd be a fair argument though.

Second Bold:
Support for Windows 98 was only discontinued late *last summer*, 6 years after the successor (windows 2000) was released. Assuming the same type of trend, this would mean Windows XP would still be supported until around 2012-2015.

M$ is hardly forcing you to do anything - they're simply progressing.

QFT.

[NapalmV5]

good enough to hold me till vienna and skip the vista crap altogether

[xVeinx]

Microsoft won't release DX10 for XP. After the nightmare of writing the code for Vista, it would take a fundamental redesign of XP to get the new driver design into XP. It would likely introduce a myriad of problems and require too much effort to bring the performance of the OS back to what it was. They have their sights set on the future and will have enough work on their hands prepping SP1 for Vista.

[gdogg]

I took the corresponding dx files from an actual vista install with name of the files in the test.

This allowed me to atleast get a logical error in a msvcrt.dll dynamic link library, most likely due to it not being the vista one inside xp.

I figure it would just be easier to make dx10 from vista work in xp.


The sad part about this thing is, it can't even run the nvidia direct10 demo, do to not having lighting information.

If it isn't a hoax, I would be amazed.

[NapalmV5]

Microsoft won't release DX10 for XP. After the nightmare of writing the code for Vista, it would take a fundamental redesign of XP to get the new driver design into XP. It would likely introduce a myriad of problems and require too much effort to bring the performance of the OS back to what it was. They have their sights set on the future and will have enough work on their hands prepping SP1 for Vista.

sp1 for vista is just some features they wanted to include in vista

if itll include badly needed fixes ill crap myself

[nn_step]

Yeah, I think I'll go with XSOS over this guy. I curious to see what NN thinks of his "competition" if you could call it that.

I openly support anyone for trying to do something better than I possibly could.
The greatest strength of the open source community is that anyone can use your work as the basis of making something beyond your wildest dreams.

I posted about this awhile ago: http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...=139208&page=2

wine is also planning to do dx10.

>I curious to see what NN thinks of his "competition" if you could call it that.

He claimed it impossible.

For DX10.0a yes but it should work better with later versions.

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XP 4 OLD

BSD and Linux are far older than XP, age isn't the factor but rather how well made they are.