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    Oced GTS PWNS Stock GTX !!!

    Thinking GTX for GTS Price ? I've got the guilllotine...bring on the naysayers ONE by ONE !!

    Once overclocked, the GeForce 8800 GTS is one helluva graphics card. We overclocked our BFG board to 620MHz core/907MHz memory. We actually hit higher speeds but had to lay off for the board to run completely stable.
    http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...iew/page23.asp

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    Thanks. That will save me a few dollars.

    8800gts ftw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob-ftw
    Thanks. That will save me a few dollars.

    8800gts ftw?
    Very very nice!

    I wonder how much more cooling it would take to break that 8800gtx OC barrier...

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    What would be interesting is to compare 8800GTS @GTX core/mem speed and a 8800GTX, since they overclock to about the same speeds.
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    Oced GTS PWNS Stock GTX !!!
    Oced GTX PWNS Oced GTS

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3NZ0
    Oced GTX PWNS Oced GTS

    Had to be done though
    rofl...yes...the point here being nex gen vs previous gen.

    If oced gts can equal and go beyond stock gtx performance (A=B)....and stock gtx pwns X1950XTX, 7900GTX, 7950GX2 (B=C), then Oced GTS pwns X1950XTX, 7900GTX and 7950GX2

    People will have overclocks such as 700/2000 on aftermarket and water cooled GTSs for 24/7 use.

    This is only the TIP of the iceberg that is GTS.

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    could someone with more knowledge about the g80's awnser this question for me, is this going to be liek the 7800gt vs the 7800gtx where the difference is quite noticeable? i dont wanna buy a gts and regret it, but the posibility of actually being able to buy another without the need for a new psu later on is kind of enticing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggy McShades
    could someone with more knowledge about the g80's awnser this question for me, is this going to be liek the 7800gt vs the 7800gtx where the difference is quite noticeable? i dont wanna buy a gts and regret it, but the posibility of actually being able to buy another without the need for a new psu later on is kind of enticing.
    It certainly would but this stronlgy depends on overall platform speed and what resolution you`re going to play with. Still we don`t have any DX10 application to test these cards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    rofl...yes...the point here being nex gen vs previous gen.

    If oced gts can equal and go beyond stock gtx performance (A=B)....and stock gtx pwns X1950XTX, 7900GTX, 7950GX2 (B=C), then Oced GTS pwns X1950XTX, 7900GTX and 7950GX2

    People will have overclocks such as 700/2000 on aftermarket and water cooled GTSs for 24/7 use.

    This is only the TIP of the iceberg that is GTS.

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    Agreed, the gts from an oc'ing point of view is quite good value for money considering the premium for the gtx over gts.
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    If you guys haven't read the AT review of the 8800gtx . Best read it . These things are pretty cool .

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    but BFG's GTS will be like $530? i doubt it can go that high (GTS) with stock vGPU and stock vmem

    does BFG overvolts both vGPU and vmem?? if so how will a normal GTS OCed on stock voltages?? if i get say .. Asus, EVGA no OCed ones
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    I wouldnt call a few fps here and there totally pwning, nevertheless, that looks fantastic!!!! Thatll be my next card i dare say.
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    hmm, save 100$, GTS is a great buy for that price, hopefully oc'ing on others besides BFG will be just as good!

    only thing is, how far can u oc on a GTX?
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    Quote Originally Posted by |Aegi3|
    hmm, save 100$, GTS is a great buy for that price, hopefully oc'ing on others besides BFG will be just as good!

    only thing is, how far can u oc on a GTX?
    Check the review...GTX and GTS oc the same on air. Members are reaching 650+/1000 on air on GTSs quite easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    Check the review...GTX and GTS oc the same on air. Members are reaching 650+/1000 on air on GTSs quite easily.

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    anyway to increase vGPU?? besides flashing bios and vmod
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    other spec difference you have to consider. purchasing a gtx is a much better choice.
    we going shh around the corner

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    Quote Originally Posted by aintz
    other spec difference you have to consider. purchasing a gtx is a much better choice.
    It's all there...all laid out...nothing more to consider.

    Oced 8800GTS surpasses GTX in 3/4 benchmarks and now it surpasses the GTX with a mild oc (remember review is 600/900 not 660/1000 as many members are getting).

    A card that minutes after installing is faster, cooler, cheaper and more convenient (due to lower size) than the STOCK GTX for budget minded individuals.

    There's nothing else to consider... DUH the GTX is more powerful...but the point of this thread is for people to re-evaluate their gtx decision in light of this new information.



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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    It's all there...all laid out...nothing more to consider.

    Oced 8800GTS surpasses GTX in 3/4 benchmarks and now it surpasses the GTX with a mild oc (remember review is 600/900 not 660/1000 as many members are getting).

    A card that minutes after installing is faster, cooler, cheaper and more convenient (due to lower size) than the STOCK GTX for budget minded individuals.

    There's nothing else to consider... DUH the GTX is more powerful...but the point of this thread is for people to re-evaluate their gtx decision in light of this new information.



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    It sure seals the deal for me. I was in debate about getting the GTS when I saw it's numbers compared to the X1950 XTX at stock. Now that I see it surpasses a stock GTX with a little love I have no reason not to hit the buy button.
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    A little testing of Leadtek Winfast PX8800GTS/TDH @ 660/1000 Mhz






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    wait a sec...that doesnt make sense. its only slightly higher than the stock clocks of the gtx, and its outperforming it with less shaders and a 320 bit bus. and it has less ROP's too
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimREEFER
    wait a sec...that doesnt make sense. its only slightly higher than the stock clocks of the gtx, and its outperforming it with less shaders and a 320 bit bus. and it has less ROP's too
    Power of unified shader :p

    Less Shaders is not the same thing as less pipelines...even if the numbers try to give that idea.

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    fine, ill be buying a gts, although anand's fear bench was a little scary
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    Quote Originally Posted by perkam
    Power of unified shader :p

    Less Shaders is not the same thing as less pipelines...even if the numbers try to give that idea.

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    The 8800GTS has less everything...

    The reason the overclock makes such a difference though is the clock deltas.

    Remember how the G70 had a geometry clock that was higher clocked? Well the shaders on the 8800GTS/GTX run roughly ~235% faster than the core. So 100mhz overclock on the core is likely to be 234-235mhz faster on the shaders... 660 core should be around 1550 mhz shader clock, so I can see how it would be possible for those clocks to catch and beat the stock 8800GTX.

    In games like oblivion and f.e.a.r. that might not be the same case though, as the shaders are put under a lot more demand than they are in HL2 and CoH. There's still a good chance that the 8800GTS won't catch it in those games.

    Make your decision based upon how much you can afford. If you can afford the GTX, then get the GTX. If you have to question your ability to afford the GTX, then the choice is obvious, get the GTS, and know that you still have an amazing piece of hardware.

    It's that simple really guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DilTech
    The 8800GTS has less everything...

    The reason the overclock makes such a difference though is the clock deltas.

    Remember how the G70 had a geometry clock that was higher clocked? Well the shaders on the 8800GTS/GTX run roughly ~235% faster than the core. So 100mhz overclock on the core is likely to be 234-235mhz faster on the shaders... 660 core should be around 1550 mhz shader clock, so I can see how it would be possible for those clocks to catch and beat the stock 8800GTX.

    In games like oblivion and f.e.a.r. that might not be the same case though, as the shaders are put under a lot more demand than they are in HL2 and CoH. There's still a good chance that the 8800GTS won't catch it in those games.

    Make your decision based upon how much you can afford. If you can afford the GTX, then get the GTX. If you have to question your ability to afford the GTX, then the choice is obvious, get the GTS, and know that you still have an amazing piece of hardware.

    It's that simple really guys.
    well, we all can physically afford both cards(if u cant, ur in desperate need of fiduciary assistance), we just have to question if its worth the extra $150(or $300 if ur doing sli)
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    mmm I still want a few more results before I believe an increase that large.

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