AMD 4x4-platform based on Socket 1207 / AMD roadmap ?

[turtle]

According to a source on our forum with access to roadmaps of AMD's 4x4-platform - also called ' Quad-Father ' - it is on Socket F. There are three new processors to be brought out especially for the platform; the FX-70 (2,6GHz), FX-72 (2,8GHz) and FX-74 (3,0GHz). These models will be sold, according to reports, only in sets of two. New FX-series are based on 90nm Windsor-core with 125W TDP and 2x1MB L2-cache. The marketing name ' FX ' will be no longer used in the future for AM2-processors, but that does not mean that faster chips will not come for the desktop: FX-74, for example, will also be brought out for Socket AM2, only under the name Athlon X2 6000+. Furthermore there is news concerning the first 65nm-chips of the company, which will appear towards the end of this year in stores. They all have 65W TDP but the maximum speed is higher than AMD indicated initially. The fastest chip based on 65nm Brisbane, as it happens, is not 2.4GHz but 2.6GHz. Still not as fast as 90nm cores, but nevertheless a good sign. Also, concerning cache quantity for 65nm-chips: instead of 3800 +.,4200 + and 4600+ (2x512kb) parts, 4000+,4400+ and 4800+ (2x1MB) chips are now expected. These chips are just as fast but have twice as much cache. Below is the complete overview of chips which AMD wants to bring out this year:

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/44504/AMD...cket-1207.html

Please edit the title with a question mark...It's obviously still a rumor. If it's true it makes sense, but is very disappointing imho.

[gOJDO]

if true, that means no cheap X2 for 4x4 like AMD fanboys were deraming and trolling about.

[kemo]

ANY news about price ???
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vaporizer

[Vapor]

'Voor kerst' = ??

And wow...what a bummer. One market they really could have taken from Intel is the budget-minded 'megatasker'. Now there's 250W of heatdump and it still might not give Intel's high-end market much of a challenge And it'll likely cost more, and it'll be harder to cool (at least Intel's two dies will be under the same IHS), and it definitely won't clock as well.

I really hope this is a rumor, a cheap 4-core system would have been very nice....

[turtle]

'Voor kerst' = ??

And wow...what a bummer. One market they really could have taken from Intel is the budget-minded 'megatasker'. Now there's 250W of heatdump and it still might not give Intel's high-end market much of a challenge And it'll likely cost more, and it'll be harder to cool (at least Intel's two dies will be under the same IHS), and it definitely won't clock as well.

I really hope this is a rumor, a cheap 4-core system would have been very nice....

"voor kerst" is "For Christmas".

I agree with you on all points.

[LowRun]

Bad bad move if true, what a letdown

[L&MFatty]

I'm more concerned about the prices ...

[[XC] Teroedni]

http://tweakers.net/nieuws/44504/AMD...cket-1207.html

Please edit the title with a question mark...It's obviously still a rumor. If it's true it makes sense, but is very disappointing imho.

Damn im so looking forward to the release of this.
And the fact that this system goes all the way down to x2 4400 means it will probaly be cheaper to build than a 1207 rig.


Now consider having 2x x2 4400 and ddr800 NUMA

Edit: Disregard this
I skimped without reading the text

[The Ghost]

so is this suppose to use registered ram ?

there is a tyan mother board already that is set up just like amd said that 4x4 motherboard would be like , but it uses server cpu's

time will tell , maybe we will find more sources to agree or disagree

[Vassili]

Damn im so looking forward to the release of this.
And the fact that this system goes all the way down to x2 4400 means it will probaly be cheaper to build than a 1207 rig.


Now consider having 2 x x2 4400 and ddr800 NUMA

LOL reading is hard isn't it.

[Mr. Popo]

4 x 4 = 1207.
FX-70, FX-72 and FX-74 are 1207.

... I think.

[[XC] Teroedni]

LOL reading is hard isn't it.

Damn I got it all wrong

So only socket 1207 is gonna be 4x4

[turtle]

4 x 4 = 1207.
FX-70, FX-72 and FX-74 are 1207.

... I think.

That's what it looks like, just those three.

Well, and of course the spring refresh...Which could be what saves it from falling into the terrible abyss of bad ideas to market to the mainstream.

[Mikesta]

I'm really starting to wonder whats going to happen with
AMD's sockets over the next year or so.....

[Lightman]

I remember that AMD promised sets of 4x4 CPU's for under $1000, that means FX-74 for around $500 each pretty cool, but I will wait for K8L based FX for 4x4

[gOJDO]

I dunno bout this, but even before it is confirmed I see Intel fanboys trolling about it...

Does it mean that the "intel fanboys trolls" told you the truth?
Is this the best of you LOE?

[turtle]

Does it mean that the "intel fanboys trolls" told you the truth?
Is this the best of you LOE?

[alayashu]

there are allready "4x4"-like motherboards for socketF and 940... 4x4 will be AM2...

this is just a rumor, we'll have to wait and see.

[[XC] leviathan18]

i think there is a rule that says you cant call other fanboys this is really getting out of control from certain guys here

[Dimitriman]

I wouldn't be too concerned about the prices of these new FX.
Currently the X2 5000+, a 2.6Ghz 512Kb dual core is going for around 280 Euros/Dollars,
I serioulsy doubt AMD would be stupid enough to charge anything above 400 Euros/Dollars for the lower 2.6Ghz 1mb FX70 version.
They will most likely release the dual package for about 699 dollars which
would be considerably good for a quad core system, especially if thats less
than the Kentsfield when it comes out.

[Sparky]

I don't quite understand it but that is ok. I'm holding out for K8L, I don't have any money anyway

[vitaminc]

there are allready "4x4"-like motherboards for socketF and 940... 4x4 will be AM2...

this is just a rumor, we'll have to wait and see.

I hope so too. It's a major letdown if 4x4 is on socket F. Pretty pointless to rebrand 2-way server technology as 4x4.

[gOJDO]

Damn you want me overdosed.

[turtle]

Which brings back the conspiracy theory...

What if your new desktop architecture couldn't beat the competition and you planned on refreshing it shortly anyway with a new memory controller...How would you release it?

Personally, if I had a separate socket/platform for just servers/enthusiasts using at least dual socket-capable chips I'd keep it out of the single-socket limelight and push it as an at least dual cpu solution to consumers first...because I think (barring something absurd) 2xK8L on desktop or 4x/8x K8L on servers is gonna beat anything Intel has....and AM2 is still only 1-way last time I checked, and Socket F is at the LEAST 2-way.

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Damn you want me overdosed.

Naw, only love amigo. You can never have too much chill

[alayashu]

Which brings back the conspiracy theory...

What if your new desktop architecture couldn't beat the competition and you planned on refreshing it shortly anyway with a new memory controller...How would you release it?

Personally, if I had a separate socket/platform for just servers/enthusiasts using at least dual socket-capable chips I'd keep it out of the single-socket limelight and push it as an at least dual cpu solution to consumers first...because I think (barring something absurd) 2xK8L on desktop or 4x/8x K8L on servers is gonna beat anything Intel has....and AM2 is still only 1-way last time I checked, and Socket F is at the LEAST 2-way.

replace K8L in your post with K8 and it's all ok