E6700 @4605mhz - Kayl Black Frozen SS

[eva2000]

Finally playing with phase change for intel cpus

System:

• Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 QPGA B1 Step 5
• Kayl Black Frozen SS 1/4HP
• Asus P5W DH Deluxe 0801 bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI card
• 2x1GB Gskill PC6400PHU2 2GBHZ Micron D9 (cooled by 120x25mm Thermaltake 81cfm fan)
• 74GB WD Raptor 8MB cache
• Pioneer DVD-RW
• FDD
• 700W OCZ GameXStream Psu

I spent all the time doing up my insulation around cpu socket and then I realised i forgot to install the 4x mounting threads for the evap through the motherboard LOL

Had to remove all the insulation and mount the threads and then put the insulation back on hehe.

As you can see from pics here http://i4memory.com/phasechange/kayl...on/p5wdh/html/, I still need to reinstall the Radiical chipset waterblock on MCH/NB etc so more to do for tomorrow

Performix Red LET


First top layer of insulation & dielectric grease in cpu socket only


Second top layer of insulation using thin sticky back foam (Aerotape) - whoops forgot to mount the threads to the board :o


Removed insulation, mounted threads and reinstalled insulation


First dry test mount - see gaps in middle pic below what should i fill it in with or do i need to ?


Interesting when setting up my phase change gear and transporting the chipset cooling loop over to the new position, I noticed the MCP350 pump outlet barb tubing had been kinked for a while now as you can see the tubing near the outlet barb had memory effect of a collapsed tubing... maybe this is a possible reason why i didn't gain much in max fsb on water cooled chipset ?? Seems now that i have fixed the kink, FSB scales better with vMCH but could this be due to phase change on cpu or both the unkinking of tube + phase change gave me better FSB scaling with vMCH ?

Very quick windows, Systool dual 32M PI (cpu benchmark) tests gave me:

10x multipler
4240mhz at 1.6v with 1.65v vMCH
4330mhz at 1.65v with 1.65v vMCH

9x multipler to test max FSB
1.75v vMCH gives me 452fsb max which is already 3fsb higher than my 1.85v vMCH before (due to tube kinking ?)

Since it could pass Systool dual 32M Pi test, it should be able to pass Super Pi 32M too
@9x452fsb


@10x424fsb


These are untweaked runs just to test limits of cpu on phase change cooling. Working on >4.3ghz right now seems to a tad flaky at 4360mhz at 1.65v. Seems i messed around with the mounting pressure too much and the max clock varies now a bit - so looks like I might need to remount a bit later but for now seems around 4300mhz at 1.65-1.675v is where I am at

Evap temps
@idle = -34C to -36C
@load = -32C to -34C

Let's start with 10x430fsb = 4300Mhz at 1.675v (result of bad mount pressure - loosened wing nuts and dropped from 4350mhz at 1.65v stable to this heh)



Not bad, but of course memory using upclock divider will have a much faster time

Max 1M so far still in same windows session as 4300mhz at 1.675v. Used clockgen to clock to 4524mhz - 10x452fsb





Now if ignore what Systool dual 32M Pi says my max is (4300mhz), and just run single 32M I can hit 4403mhz at 1.675v bios set



Just shy of <12min time

Bump vMCH from 1.75v to 1.85v in bios and can do 1M @4605mhz at 1.675v bios set vcore



11 seconds flat

[eva2000]

Some async 32M times - 12min barrier has been broken

@4240mhz


@4282mhz


@4326mhz

[dinos22]

nice now you're limited by that motherboard dude

get a P5B Deluxe man

[eva2000]

nah probably more limited by lack of vcore available.. hehe

and P5B DX suxs for pi times

[dinos22]

nah probably more limited by lack of vcore available.. hehe

and P5B DX suxs for pi times :P

well if you get another 100 or 200 MHz out of the chip with one you wouldn't complain

i am yet to see some evidence of 975x pawning 965 motherboards and by what margin

plus P5B Deluxe will clock RAM higher than the DH

[Durzel]

Great result eva2000!

One thing I would say is that FSB definitely seems scalable with vMCH - I simply can't run 410FSB on air at all, but under phase I Primed for well over an hour without any problems, and even booted into Windows easily at 4.3Ghz. This was under a SS modded Vapo LS too.

[VictorWang]

hoho, well done Geogre

[eva2000]

thanks Durzel

hmm with 0801 bios still but 1.7v vcore in bios when set = 1.55v.. seems the max i have to work with is 1.675v bios option.

Any recommendations on bioses to try ?

[VictorWang]

thanks Durzel

hmm with 0801 bios still but 1.7v vcore in bios when set = 1.55v.. seems the max i have to work with is 1.675v bios option.

Any recommendations on bioses to try ?

1101 or 1201 is good, no such vcore bug.
but.....strongly recommend you do the vdroop mod

[eva2000]

thanks Victor, but i don't know how to do volt mods LOL so vdropp mod is out of the question

[VictorWang]

thanks Victor, but i don't know how to do volt mods LOL so vdropp mod is out of the question

go and by a solder iron , follow the instructions of P5WDH mod,
it's very easy.

[eva2000]

i tried tinning a wire as a test once and wire burnt to flames.. LOL don't trust myself near a motherboard hehe...

[dinos22]

burnt to flames AHAHAHAHAH i love it you're as useless as me

[eva2000]

hehe

Well still on 0801 bios and managed to squeeze out enough to move up hwbot & holicho rankings a bit more



then a tad better


All at 1.675v in bios

#6 on hwbot 32M http://www.hwbot.org//hallOfFame.do?...pplicationId=7
#8 on holicho 32M http://holicho.lib.net/pi3355/pi3355.htm

[eva2000]

The rest of the piccies enjoy

Dry test mount looked fine to me You can see Radiical chipset waterblock installed too.



First mount with Ceramique applied



Running



You can see where the pump outlet barb tubing kinked so fixed it with corsair cool's included anti-kink thingy



And the whole setup with Kayl Black Frozen SS with it's lid off and some extra cooling on compressor heh

[^don.k's^]

This is how i insulated the upper mosfets zone:



And a pic of the whole insulation:



Im using phase for more than two weeks and i havent got any problems And i dont think i will have BTW nice chip you got there, i whish mine could just do 4,5ghz... It stucks @4,43, mainly coz of mobo. Gotta vmod it

Regards!

[eva2000]

thanks mate.. never ever once thought to insulate the mosfet area like that before

[charlie]

nice clocks...

I certainly WOULD be curious to see if P5W DH @ 10 x 450=4500 is fster/slower than P5B Dlx @ 9 x 500=4500

[sdumper]

nice clocks...

I certainly WOULD be curious to see if P5W DH @ 10 x 450=4500 is fster/slower than P5B Dlx @ 9 x 500=4500

Me too

[Supertim0r]

imo the p5b dx is way better mobo...haven't used the p5w for a month
i'll test a kentsfield 6700 in a week, p5w first, p5b after

nice stuff eva

[eva2000]

thanks guys

charlie just a tad short for 4500mhz fully benchable hehe

Okay flashed from 0801 to 1101 bios so that i could fix the 0801 vcore bug where 1.6875v and 1.7v vcore options resulted in 1.456v and 1.55v vcore in reality. Seems in bios with 1101 bios, 1.6875v and 1.7v are now same as 1.675v vcore setting, fluctuating between 1.648v - 1.656v - 1.662v vcore.

But I have gained an extra 43-49mhz at max Systool dual 32M Pi and single Super Pi 32M max

0801 bios
Systool dual 32M Pi max = 4300mhz at 1.675v bios set
Single Super Pi 32M max = 4403mhz at 1.675v bios set

vs

1101 bios
Systool dual 32M Pi max = 4349mhz at 1.7v set
Single Super Pi 32M max = 4443mhz at 1.7v set

New max cpu clock on 1101 bios for 32M.



evap temp
idle = -38.2C to -41.0C
load = -31.7C to -34.4C

Asus PC Probe2 temp
idle = 230C minus 256C = -26C
load = 253C to 256C minus 256C = -3C to 0C

[cupra]

great work with the ss isolation eva, did you work with your ss 24/7 ?

i try to do it with my bad axe and 6700 a 2 months ago for 24/7 and its was horrible a water get in the kill my 6700 and my bad axe

[eva2000]

Haven't ran it 24/7 yet most around 12-16 hrs in one day.. still testing the waters so to speak (excuse the pun hehe). I'm actually booting system up when my evap hit's around +2C to -5C at 1.5v vcore to keep the P5W DH warm while evap continues to slowly drop to it's final temps (evap approx -41C to -38C idle or -28C to -24C bios). I do same when turning off pc, turn phase change unit off and slowly let it hit 0C to +8C before turning off.

i'm trying vcore pencil mod http://vr-zone.com/?i=3876&s=2 since i don't know how to volt mod hehe

but even with vcore set at 1.5v = 1.472v-1.488v default reducing resistance from 817 ohms to 786 ohms still gives me 1.5v = 1.472v-1.488v in bios ???

was my reduction in resistance too little for a vcore increase ?

[trans am]

Now you're overclocking! nice pi times

[eva2000]

thanks trans am just need more vcore i think heh

Continuing the never end quest for faster 32M pi time, I break through to my new personal best times to date

The max clock i can do trying to keep 4-4-3-4 timings is 10x435fsb with 544mhz 4-4-3-4 at 2.51v vdimm (pencil mod max vdimm). This just shaves 0.244 seconds off my previous best 32M time.



Then i loosen tRP from 3 to 4 for 4-4-4-4 timings and manage to hit 549-550mhz 4-4-4-4 at 2.51v. Thus improving my 32M time again.



But seems my best time was at @4385mhz - 10x438fsb with 548mhz 4-4-4-4 at 2.51v vdimm. Breaking the 700 second barrier for the first time

@4385mhz at 1.7v bios set vcore = 1.648-1.656v vcore idle.