p5wdh vs d975xbx vs dq6 32M super comparison

[guess2098]

those mobos are stock. no vmod at all

lets some pictures of mobos


DQ6


DQ6 PIC NO2

DQ6 PIC NO3

DQ6 PIC NO4



D975XBX


D975XBX PIC NO2

D975XBX PIC NO3

D975XBX PIC NO4



P5WDH


P5WDH PIC NO2

P5WDH PIC NO3



1ST, P5WDH... BOOT UP AT FSB434.
E6600 1.57v
800 2GBHZ 2.4v
0088 bios
MCH 1.6v
FSB 1.2v









2nd, DQ6... MAX BOOT UP AT FSB400~409.
E6600 1.57v
800 2GBHZ 2.35v
F2 bios
MCH 1.2v (NORMAL)
FSB 1v (NORMAL)








using giga's software to reach 434, it will not boot from bios with FSB over 405 (in my case, i did 416 boot up once but it is not easy, only 400 is ok)





*****UPDATE*****
with V-MCH +0.2v, now i can boot up at FSB 433.... however, once turn off the power it will not boot up again!!
the result with FSB 433 and 1:1 same as P5WDH 3-4-3.
32M is MUCH slower!








still testing 304 mobo


P5WDG
pro:
1. High FSB boot up! no one is going to use soft FSB set everyday!
2. easy recovery if fail to post, 2nd post will use default setting and previous bios options saved
3. CF
con:
1. High FSB over 350 can't use DDR2 1000+ option. some ram's hidding timing are not currect and result is fail to post
2. 975 MCH requires higher voltage

DQ6
pro:
1. a lot of bios options and fsb up to 600, vcore, vdimm
2. MCH for 965 is better than 975, with normal 1.2v i can boot up to 400
con:
1. memory divider has same problem with 975, with high FSB can use DDR2 1000+ option... some hideing timing is not currect
2. too many bios options are NOT working, like say 1.6v+ vcore just won't boot!!!!!!
3. very bad bad bad bios design! you can't change all setting at once, you need to change one option, save, boot up ,change one option, save, boot up again and repeating until everything is done.... this is soooooo gay
4. no program available for soft ram timing adjust
5. not support 7950, CF. nor SLi
6. back plat is not good if you wanna use TQ120!!!!!!
7. too many... not worse to buy one....

[Shpoon]

*forum. :p

Thanks for this man, subscribed for sure, will be nice. Too bad no DFI though.

If you want, PM me, I'll delete this post (if you want a straight run).

[guess2098]

ops.... muhahhahahaah ok forum

[AndrewZorn]

i wish this existed yesterday but i just hope it comes out in my (asus's) favor

[dogsx2]

Looking forward to this Denny.

[Charloz24]

Great! Looking especially for the DQ6................can't wait for results!

[mion]

Just in time before new board.

[Supertim0r]

nice !!! subscribed

[millerdude]

Ditto...subscribed...This would be very interesting to know the outcome...

[guess2098]

*****updated DQ6, please check 1st post*****

[sierra_bound]

Judging by the timings, you were running the Asus board 1:1. But the Gigabyte board was at 4:5. Wouldn't it be better to test both with same ratio.

[guess2098]

Judging by the timings, you were running the Asus board 1:1. But the Gigabyte board was at 4:5. Wouldn't it be better to test both with same ratio.

can't boot

i am using bootable seting 1st!

[sierra_bound]

Okay, that's what I thought. So the Gigabyte board won't boot at 434 1:1. Nice memory speed on the DQ6. But it's still more than 30 seconds slower in 32M.

Thanks for doing the comparison test. I'm sure it will help members.

[guess2098]

Okay, that's what I thought. So the Gigabyte board won't boot at 434 1:1. Nice memory speed on the DQ6. But it's still more than 30 seconds slower in 32M.

Thanks for doing the comparison test. I'm sure it will help members.

434 1:1 won't boot
anything over 400 basically no boot at all

btw i use AUTO timing for DQ6, if i mannally set in to 4-4-3 or 4-4-4 it just no boot at all

if p5wdh with 4:5 won't boot...

every mobo has its weak part......

[NiCKE^]

Did you gain anything on lapping the CPU?

[sierra_bound]

434 1:1 won't boot
anything over 400 basically no boot at all

btw i use AUTO timing for DQ6, if i mannally set in to 4-4-3 or 4-4-4 it just no boot at all

if p5wdh with 4:5 won't boot...

every mobo has its weak part......

I can run P5W DH at 4:5 with memory up to around 480, but that's it. I think it needs voltage mod to run higher at 4:5.

Thanks again for the info.

[guess2098]

I can run P5W DH at 4:5 with memory up to around 480, but that's it. I think it needs voltage mod to run higher at 4:5.

Thanks again for the info.

yeah! see high FSB over 1000+ will not boot
basically is the timing problem, becasue with low FSB such as 333 with DDR2 1066 just no problem at all...

[Supertim0r]

If they could allow higher vdimm and most of all, higher fsb from the bios on the bad axe !

4 bad axe I tested all did 3.95ghz 32m (stock board except short oc debug)

Is it possible for you to monitor your temp with the bad axe using coretemp during 32m ?

[guess2098]

If they could allow higher vdimm and most of all, higher fsb from the bios on the bad axe !

4 bad axe I tested all did 3.95ghz 32m (stock board except short oc debug)

Is it possible for you to monitor your temp with the bad axe using coretemp during 32m ?

tomorrow i am going to post the 304.. just too laze today...

304 can't do over DDR2 1000 to boot... same problem with p5wdh.....
basically is the timing clock delay vs FSB

with the hidding timing, it can do 333 or 350 with DDR2 1000+ but if over this... damn the delay is too short and mobo just no post!
that is why many ppl use 304 1066 and can not use 4:5 over DDR2 1000, but 499 is 32M stable

[guess2098]

just wanna clear up, DQ6 can do 1:1 CL3 with 400 boot up but it can't reach 434 CL3-4-3 stable pass 32M
some timing need to adjust but there is no program to do so.
from 400 to 434 soft oc you need to adjust the ram timing for sure
but in this case I can't do it, that is why i use 4:5 instead of 1:1

[m0da]

awesome comparisons, thanks for the results guess!

[principino1984]

awesome man, finally we can have a clear idea on what we wanna buy!

Marco

[deadlock7]

I'd prefer a comparison at lower speed but same setup than this.Every mobo has different results,even these from the same company/model.This is just my opinion..of course thanks a lot for the results!

[orion23]

Cool, Thanks a lot for the comparisons!

I have a DQ6 waiting for its conroe chip to be fired up!

[Lestat]

that DQ6 sounds just as wacky as my P5W DH alot of the same issues you had are the same ones i have

can NOT manually set SPD timings
can boot at 400+ FSB with AUTO MCH
can NOT boot at over 410FSB nothing that i do makes it work. 1:1 or 4:5 or any ratio... nothing works.

there was some other ones ..but anyways.

wow sounds like their DS3 board is a real killer compared to the DQ6