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Thread: Phenom II 1100T, WTF throttling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyshaw View Post
    Well, it's better than MSI boards that don't trottle properly... just look at [H]'s three "Thuban killed my mobo" threads. MSI is almost running the show against ASUS, Biostar (!!), Gigabyte and others.
    I just found it hilarious I can run Prime95 at 4 Ghz/3000 NB with 1.620v core/1.50v CPU_NB on my Deneb CPU while I can't run 1.44v load core and 1.325v CPU_NB on my 1100T...
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    Well, to be fair, Thuban managed to run with the same TDP on the same process.... despite having 2 more cores :p
    Power draw, on the other hand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyshaw View Post
    Well, to be fair, Thuban managed to run with the same TDP on the same process.... despite having 2 more cores :p
    Power draw, on the other hand...
    Yeah, the 1100T came with my PSU upgrade for a reason...(I'd been putting off the PSU issue...)

    It's just, I wanted to see what I could do with it since I already benched the hell out of my 965BE and tested prime on my 565BE...and now I'm stuck with this

    I'm glad my board didn't catch fire or anything, that thread was crazy...had he ran Prime and went to sleep he would have found his house on fire
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    I just found it hilarious I can run Prime95 at 4 Ghz/3000 NB with 1.620v core/1.50v CPU_NB on my Deneb CPU while I can't run 1.44v load core and 1.325v CPU_NB on my 1100T...
    different stock voltages different leakage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by demonkevy666 View Post
    different stock voltages different leakage.
    This CPU came with a 1.325v VID, I don't believe it's so bad tbh. I'd like to solve my throttling issue or I will end up running 3.8 @ 1.3v or something on my water loop.
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    Add MOAR blocks... MOSFET/NB blocks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremyshaw View Post
    Add MOAR blocks... MOSFET/NB blocks
    I'm now considering it, though I'm going to upgrade to AM3+ and Bulldozer late this year so I'm debating if it's worth it.
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    try another bios if you can, could judt be a bug

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    Quote Originally Posted by stangracin3 View Post
    try another bios if you can, could judt be a bug
    I was pretty sure we aren't allowed to flash back to earlier bioses anymore(?)
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    sink making solid contact with fets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazydiamond View Post
    sink making solid contact with fets?
    Honestly, I'm too lazy to pull the board out and check right now.

    The sink is getting extremely warm, I can tell you that. I'm not fond of this design as it places the Northbridge near the fets and puts them on the same heatsink...which isn't very smart an idea in my book.

    I may give this board up for a CHIV Formula or I'll just attempt to reseat the heatsink and go from there. Aftermarket sinks won't work, I noticed since the NB sink just sorta branches off the fet sink.
    Last edited by BeepBeep2; 01-08-2011 at 07:32 PM.
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    thats onlyy for beta bioses

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    since I've already got a thread open...
    Good news:
    3.9 Ghz core/3010 NB is an hour stable at 1.39v (set 1.35v) core and 1.315v CPU_NB with a max CPU temp of 48c. I didn't see it throttle any.

    Bad news:
    PC Probe II just scared the $h^t out of me, telling me my 3.3v spiked to 4.81 and that my 12v was reading .11v with a nice loud alarm. Good one ASUS, but it's not april fools day yet
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    Beep, are you running those Super Talent Hypers?

    If you keep having problems with stabillity (like I have) you may want to swap them out for a different kit....

    I put my old BBSE kit tonight because the problems always seemed ram related, and it's like a whole new animal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    Beep, are you running those Super Talent Hypers?

    If you keep having problems with stabillity (like I have) you may want to swap them out for a different kit....

    I put my old BBSE kit tonight because the problems always seemed ram related, and it's like a whole new animal!
    Much more co-operative.

    Priming right now @ 218x19x14 (4150/3050) @ 1.45 and 1.25 respectively.
    lol...

    Dave this isn't a ram problem...my CPU is throttling down to 800 Mhz under load with any voltage higher than 1.40v and 4 Ghz. I've proved 1845 6-6-6-18 stable on these sticks...
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    Yeah, my sticks ran great on the 1055 too, but after fighting stability for a couple weeks the BBSE's made a hugh difference.

    I know what your original problem was. When I suggested you lower voltages you poopooed that idea as well.....

    Oh well, you obviously think I'm clueless so I won't offer any more suggestions. Have fun with your new chip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
    Yeah, my sticks ran great on the 1055 too, but after fighting stability for a couple weeks the BBSE's made a hugh difference.

    I know what your original problem was. When I suggested you lower voltages you poopooed that idea as well.....

    Oh well, you obviously think I'm clueless so I won't offer any more suggestions. Have fun with your new chip.

    Just to show you I'm not crazy:
    Dave, what are you talking about? I respect your opinion as much as anyone else does and I did try to use lower voltages as you suggested.

    In fact, in my last post I mentioned that 3900 Mhz and a 3000 Mhz NB was stable with 1.35v core and 1.315v CPUNB...now, I'm just working up from there. It didn't throttle that time.

    I don't see where you got the idea that I disregarded your comment about voltages but I know for sure that this isn't a ram problem. It's not even really an instability problem, just my CPU is clocking down under load with even just 1.4v set. This problem happens with my 2200 C8 kit as well, and my D9 GTS's.

    Feel free to throw some suggestions out there, but for one thing, I'd like to note my NB isn't as strong as yours...3000 at 1.25v won't even boot.


    BTW: I already came back with results at 1.45v...it just throttled again. (and I do wish I could hit nearly 4.2 with just 1.45v) Honestly, I can't see why ram has anything to do with CPU throttling...it's not a stability issue but moreover an issue where the board feels it needs to lower CPU clocks for one reason or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeepBeep2 View Post
    Dave, what are you talking about? I respect your opinion as much as anyone else does and I did try to use lower voltages as you suggested.

    In fact, in my last post I mentioned that 3900 Mhz and a 3000 Mhz NB was stable with 1.35v core and 1.315v CPUNB...now, I'm just working up from there. It didn't throttle that time.

    I don't see where you got the idea that I disregarded your comment about voltages but I know for sure that this isn't a ram problem. It's not even really an instability problem, just my CPU is clocking down under load with even just 1.4v set. This problem happens with my 2200 C8 kit as well, and my D9 GTS's.

    Feel free to throw some suggestions out there, but for one thing, I'd like to note my NB isn't as strong as yours...3000 at 1.25v won't even boot.
    im still voting bios bug...

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    Video with TMonitor showing throttling and weird idle clocks:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAHpWRmif8o&hd=1

    If you can, watch it...what do you all think is going on?
    Last edited by BeepBeep2; 01-09-2011 at 12:39 AM.
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    just watched it, never used that TMonitor program before. I don't think this matters much, but your HT Link is @ 2800MHz.

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    hey beep, some things you can try that maybe you didn't...

    1) go into the windows control panel > Power Options, set it to High performance.
    2) see if it throttles with something like PhenomMsrTweaker setup?
    3) most obvious, make sure C1E / CnQ / Turbo are off in bios.

    after watching your video about it I noticed some of the cores were at 2293, with others at 1146 or so, could be something like turbo mode being left on and causing issues, if it was straight up throttling I would almost expect all the cores to drop equally, perhaps windows power saving as well I dunno, try what I said though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richierich View Post
    just watched it, never used that TMonitor program before. I don't think this matters much, but your HT Link is @ 2800MHz.
    I was experimenting with it...
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    Beep, I have been watching this thread,etc. i just ran 4hrs of prime95 on my 1090. I have a Asrock deluxe 3 and my board has cool & quiet / disabled. C1E is enabled to keep all cores at full speed. Running windows7 (64bit) T-Monitor shows the same as your's under stress. Its all over the place. Amd overdrive does show all cores at 4.1 with no change. T-Monitor is not reading right for some reson. Hope this helps you.

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    Temperatures! I'm sure you have a bad mount, my ambients here are mid 20's and at 3.9GHz with 1.495v (WCG puts a lot of stress on the chip, less voltage causes a crash after a few days) with a TRUE Black and two Gentle Typhoons at 1450RPM in push pull I'm reading 35'c at full load after... Current uptime is seven days. Bring to borked sensor into the equation and I'm sitting around 50'c.
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    My 1090 and M4A88TD-V-EVO/USB3 combo has done the same thing, I never noticed it until I was running OOCT(and cpuz) linpack at around 4G....
    I haven't taken the board out of the case yet, I'm thinking it's the mosfets on mine.....
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