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Thread: Kingston email concerning KHX3500 and BH5/CH5

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    The 2.5V sticks can have BH-5 or Samsung? but the 2.6V sticks are most deffinantly CH. I have HyperX3500 with BH and they are 2.5V
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    Are you positive that the sticks you have are BH5 and rated 2.5v? Did you take off the spreaders to check the actual modules?

    If ya did, how the hell did you get those spreaders off..lol. Those clips are on there pretty good.


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    Originally posted by Hëll ‡ Fîrë
    Are you positive that the sticks you have are BH5 and rated 2.5v? Did you take off the spreaders to check the actual modules?

    If ya did, how the hell did you get those spreaders off..lol. Those clips are on there pretty good.
    Here they are. Labeled Kingston...
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    And heres a pic of the spredder. The clips come of easily if you use some sharp object( Iused a blade in lethermann) and put the tip under the top of the clip and spredder. Then all you need to do is use it as a lever? and it comes of relatively easy.
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    its like impossible thats some BH5 becose BH5 are more demanding of power so it have to be some CH5

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    ive just find that : I have pair of Kingston HyperX PC3000 256Mb modules too and compared to them these PC3500 modules are a little bit higher. Label at the Heat-Spreader tells us memory type (KHX3500); it's capacity (256) and operating voltage (2.5V). One interesting thing is that Kingston has changed operating voltage recommendation few months ago from 2.5V to 2.6V. I have theory to this and it is that Kingston had to change memory chip type since Winbond stopped to manufacture BH-5 chips, which were originally used and started to produce CH-5 chips. Newer CH-5 chips seems to need a little bit higher voltage than older BH-5 chips.

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    The gyu who did that rewiew also checked the legs of the ICs in these sticks when I was buying this mobo from him, and said they sure look like his BH-5 PC3000 ram. This is the exact mobo he reviewed at www.metku.net
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    hey hell $ fire you dident have a reaspoond yet????

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    LOL...response from whom about what....I am confused now.

    hatemi, I dont see anything on those chips that would tell me whether they were BH5 or CH5..so I dont think you have your proof yet.


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    Hi there

    Not posted on here for a long time but as most of you will know I work for www.overclockers.co.uk and recently upgraded my system to something a little faster.

    I got myself an P4 3.2c, IC7-MAX3 and tried several different memory types such as Corsair XMS3500, TwinMos PC3200 and Kingston HyperX PC3200 and PC3500 parts for my new rig to see which ones gave the best results.
    After testing all 4 different kits I had the Kingston HyperX PC3200 was superior to any of the other kits and hence I have got some good results.

    For those interested you can see my results in this THREAD on the OcUK Forums

    I am very impressed with the results I have got and a couple of other member who got the same 512MB Kits have used upto 3.2v and managed 245FSB on 2-5-2-2 timings, I am limited to 2.8v max due to IC7-MAX3 issue but can still hit upto 234FSB at the same timings with PAT enabled in street fighter mode, so I am happy especially with 3500/3500 unbuffered sandra score I got on my 24/7 gaming rig.

    The packs do say Winbond on them and suggest a default voltage of 2.6v, I personally think they are BH-5's to attain such good speeds with good timings.

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    I would be shocked if they werent BH5 chips as well.

    I dont know if you read the entire thread or not, but I reccently got an RMA from Kingston because the sticks I had wouldnt even do the rated speeds at any timings or voltage. I think I got lucky and they sent me BH5 sticks cause they did 225 right outta the box @ 2-2-2-6 with no burn in. I am hoping for more after a few days of burn in, but I may have to do the Vdd mod. I can muster upwards of 4.25 Vdimm, not that I would use all that juice...LOL. The max I have gone up to is 3.3v and I will hang there for a bit.

    On my last run of the night I got 230fsb @ 2-2-2-6 timings and 3500 bandwidth for an unbuffered run in Sandra. I'll takt that anyday over the crap I had before.

    Thanks for your input Gibbo.
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    Whats the 5.4ns thing isnt the chip 5ns?
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    Originally posted by Hëll ‡ Fîrë


    hatemi, I dont see anything on those chips that would tell me whether they were BH5 or CH5..so I dont think you have your proof yet.
    but go see the article ive post and read it start to end you will see

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    Does this look like CH-5?

    Sorry for the crappy quality....Just hope I could post the whole screenie cos it shows 1M SuperPi has passed also...
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    im sure its some BH5 becose the 2.5 volt

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    Originally posted by hatemi
    Does this look like CH-5?

    Sorry for the crappy quality....Just hope I could post the whole screenie cos it shows 1M SuperPi has passed also...
    But thats on an Intel board which runs higher fsb than most AMD boards to begin with.

    I just read a review of your motherboard that did 250+ fsb very easily, so I am not sure I can take your screenie as definitive that those are BH5 chips man.
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    Originally posted by skate2snow
    im sure its some BH5 becose the 2.5 volt
    But most people are of the opinion that the lower voltage would make it CH5 because it traditionally needs lower voltages to hit high fsb, at the expense of timings.

    The BH5 takes the higher voltage, but it can also handle the high volts.


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    But thats on an Intel board which runs higher fsb than most AMD boards to begin with
    it's BH, CH wont run those tight timings @ that speed, I have the bh5 kingstons, with the same markings as the pics posted above.


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    Originally posted by Hëll ‡ Fîrë
    But most people are of the opinion that the lower voltage would make it CH5 because it traditionally needs lower voltages to hit high fsb, at the expense of timings.

    The BH5 takes the higher voltage, but it can also handle the high volts.
    No you got that wrong. The older HyperXs that have BH have deffault voltage of 2.5. After finding there was some problems with CH they upped the volts hoping it would help.

    And CH-5wont most certainly work on Intel at these speeds, Most time not even at SPD timings and speeds! Actually I believe Ch works much better on nForce2...
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    yes there are bh-5 rated 2.5 (old ones do that)


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    my pc3500 hyperx CH5 is labled 2.5v. you cannot tell by the voltage!

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    ok but so how do we differencing the two????

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    somebody was saying about if it is "a" then ch5 else bh5 but dont know is this true or not volt cant be used to identify them because both ch5 and bh5 can do 434 mhz 2-3-3-7 @ 2.5 volts best way is to go and get mushkin black level 2 i think so you can know what you exactly get


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    no mushin /\/\II is way too much $$$$$$

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