So many A64 deaths

**`schr0et** · 02-07-2004, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by hotwheelz
So ill have a Shuttle AN50R

In Bios i set the vdimm to 2,9v and then with the VR up to 3,1v

when i measure the vdimm its jumping from 3,1 up to 3,8v

and my two A64 (3200+ / 3400+) wont go higher then 2500mhz with mach2 so ill killed them!

Noooo don't kill them

Set your VDDR in bios to 'auto', using your trimmers increase/decrease your voltage running through your ram.

If you want a stable VMod instead of using the 50K trimmer, just use either 2x 1K 15 turns, or a 1K 15 turn VR + 1k resistor in conjunction, the mod will be stable, and not to mention save you time from having to turn your VR 50 million times

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Joe, to be honest if you think my RMA'ing "botched" parts is "fraud", "dishonest", and "not reasonable", then you my friend are in the wrong place. I understand your point of view, and I have no quarrels with it. But you also need to remember that no matter how wrong or right you think something is, its still mainly your thought. You trying to either become a catalyst in changing my views or you trying to 'enlighten' me is not going to change my actions. In my mind I find my cause just, because I am trying to get the most performance out of a product any given manufactuer puts out and until they (the manufacturer's) start putting out more durable products I won't have any reason to stop what I'm doing.

That will be the end of that topic for me, I will no longer respond to this thread because we are here to OC not belittle one another

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**Goldlocke** · 02-07-2004, 02:12 PM

Hmmm,...I took the time and did some measurements on the mosfet too.

I have NO FLUCTUATION. I set Vdimm bios setting from AUTO to 2.7V/2.8V and 2.9V giving me 3.08V/3.18V and so on effective VDimm. At no time was the V jumping here.
I even tried upping Vdd, VAGP, VLDT to the max.

2 thoughts:
1.) OK, I'm a coward - tested only up to 3.4V Vdimm.
2.) I got another PSU (that maybe produces no spikes?)

**`schr0et** · 02-07-2004, 02:17 PM

I don't think its the PSU's that are causing it.

And not being able to replicate the problem is weird.

Most of us were using around 3,4-3,6+ VDimm when we changed thru Bios from auto to 2,X

Even though you encountered no problem with that, I wouldn't advise you to keep doing that method to wait and see if your chip dies

But I'm just happy you didn't roast your CPU lol

**`schr0et** · 02-07-2004, 02:18 PM

I think I noticed one similarity between all those dead chips, when the settings were changed everyone was running over 3,0+ volts thru VDimm when they decided to change it, and since your increment was only .10+ and you still started sub 3,0 VDimm, you were still in the safe because you weren't going over the spec'd VDimm supported by the CPU + M/B

**Overlag** · 02-07-2004, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by Goldlocke
this forum is called "Xtremesystems", not "RMA ethics"!
Joe and Overlag go back to http://www.community.tomshardware.com

dude, i overclock xtremely too, but i NEVER RMA something I broke...but then i dont steal things out of shops either......

**bias_hjorth** · 02-07-2004, 04:24 PM

overlag <---

yeah sure you do - It clearly shows in your sig. ;-)

anyway think you guys are missing the point between stealing and RMA. IÂ´v believe that almost everybody besides you two saints tries to RMA their stuff. Broken by intention or not. Just to get something better - Yes maybe its a low standard to you guys but remember that next time youÂ´r gonna exhange something (tv etc.) and pushed to get the next new product in line cause the one your having is outdated - I honestly dont believe youÂ´ll settle for the average - No ofcause you want the best thing- Follow my drift?
But stealing - Thats a whole new catagory.

**Overlag** · 02-07-2004, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by bias_hjorth
overlag <---

yeah sure you do - It clearly shows in your sig. ;-)

anyway think you guys are missing the point between stealing and RMA. IÂ´v believe that almost everybody besides you two saints tries to RMA their stuff. Broken by intention or not. Just to get something better - Yes maybe its a low standard to you guys but remember that next time youÂ´r gonna exhange something (tv etc.) and pushed to get the next new product in line cause the one your having is outdated - I honestly dont believe youÂ´ll settle for the average - No ofcause you want the best thing- Follow my drift?
But stealing - Thats a whole new catagory.

so what, a board with no AGP/PCI lock, and a ATI9700pro that doesnt like over 72mhz AGP?

what am i supposed to do? get a freaking Geforce FX?

i taking a rest from extreme overclocking, im stuck at 10x215 with my A64 3200....

**BMORIN** · 02-07-2004, 05:56 PM

Quit crappin, stay on topic

**MRip** · 02-08-2004, 08:08 PM

When I killed my 3000+ I didn't have a VMod, but I was running at 2.9v on my AN50R...

**Alex08** · 02-08-2004, 08:15 PM

hey Mrip, I know 2.9v doesnt require a mod, but did you have a vdimm mod?

**`schr0et** · 02-09-2004, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Overlag

so what, a board with no AGP/PCI lock, and a ATI9700pro that doesnt like over 72mhz AGP?

what am i supposed to do? get a freaking Geforce FX?

i taking a rest from extreme overclocking, im stuck at 10x215 with my A64 3200....

ROFL since when is 215 FSB xtreme?

**bias_hjorth** · 02-09-2004, 04:22 PM

kept me wondering to but didÂ´nt mention it cause the dude should feel speciel

**Overlag** · 02-09-2004, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by bias_hjorth
kept me wondering to but didÂ´nt mention it cause the dude should feel speciel

sigh

i said im taking a REST ffs

its a bit hard when yyour gfx card Â§Â§Â§Â§s up at 210 fsb

**Overlag** · 02-09-2004, 06:46 PM

and as BMORIN said, quit crapping, and stay on topic

**Zeus** · 02-10-2004, 04:14 AM

Originally posted by Overlag

what am i supposed to do? get a freaking Geforce FX?

Do you think your 9700pro is any better than a freaking FX5900u or FX5950u???

I think not!!

Just to stay ontopic; anyone killed his CPU on a nonmodded Shuttle AN50R board?

**Overlag** · 02-10-2004, 06:53 AM

Originally posted by Zeus
Do you think your 9700pro is any better than a freaking FX5900u or FX5950u???

I think not!!

whatever....

...all this because i dont agree with RMA stuff that I broke, and dont agree with others doing so.

Tad sad IMO..

**Zeus** · 02-10-2004, 11:45 AM

Not at all mate, it was just the way you talked about a geforce FX, like it was a pile of crap.

Everyone getting ATI cards doesn't mean the FX's aren't any good, plus they can take high AGP speed no sweat as an added bonus.

**WiCKeD** · 02-10-2004, 11:46 AM

Whether you break it or not, there's a 15% restocking fee etailers apply to cover their own asses. Net result is - IT DOESN'T MATTER!

**Overlag** · 02-10-2004, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Zeus
Not at all mate, it was just the way you talked about a geforce FX, like it was a pile of crap.

Everyone getting ATI cards doesn't mean the FX's aren't any good, plus they can take high AGP speed no sweat as an added bonus.

well yeah, i know that. But when i got my 9700pro, it was that or the 5800.... even now, id choose a 9800xt over a 5950u...and aparently newer ATI's can take FSB.

im just disapointed on the amount of personal attacks at xtreme. This thread and the prescott thread are proof of this and im sure theres more. Coming from OCUK makes me used to being in a grown ups forum, where trouble makers (personal insults etc) are removed, making it a better alround place. sorry if you dont like my views on xtreme

Originally posted by WiCKeD
Whether you break it or not, there's a 15% restocking fee etailers apply to cover their own asses. Net result is - IT DOESN'T MATTER!

true maybe...

**Karnivore** · 02-10-2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Overlag
Coming from OCUK makes me used to being in a grown ups forum, where trouble makers (personal insults etc) are removed, making it a better alround place. sorry if you dont like my views on xtreme

true maybe...

Xtreme is growing really fast, since about December it seems to have really taken off, I've posted a few threads regarding spam, personal attacks, etc. The replies from the folks running Xtreme made much sense, They simply don't catch all the problems, and trouble. A simple suggestion was offered, use the report this post button, it works, and they WILL deal with it.

Maybe they need a few more mods, dunno, but until such time as they have the manpower to cover every single thread, exercise the "REPORT THIS POST OPTION" I certainly do agree with you that much uncalled for actions are being made by members, It is kind of like the Neghborhood watch thing, unless the community gets involved it won't work...

**bias_hjorth** · 02-10-2004, 04:52 PM

actually you guys are right at that point. Some of the newcomers seems to use the various forums for spam and already has almost twice the numbers in post the Im having - They think its about replying to as much postÂ´s as possible and really practice the fanboyism. But hey its a public forum and everybody should have a chance -
(PS sry for beeing a part of destroying the thread but I just could stand some of the above post)

Ill stay on topic for now on..

**Alex08** · 02-10-2004, 05:39 PM

is my a64 dead? memory controller dead?

I just sent a surge through my computer, my psu just sparked, its dead now.

right now im reformatting my hard drive with the same chip installed, new psu though.

i was able to boot to the windows setup repair screen and from there i reformatted. right now im about 40% done reformatting on the 120gig

is there still a possibility my a64 has fried its memory controller?

**`schr0et** · 02-10-2004, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Alex08
is my a64 dead? memory controller dead?

I just sent a surge through my computer, my psu just sparked, its dead now.

right now im reformatting my hard drive with the same chip installed, new psu though.

i was able to boot to the windows setup repair screen and from there i reformatted. right now im about 40% done reformatting on the 120gig

is there still a possibility my a64 has fried its memory controller?

If your CPU fried its controller it wouldn't even boot, and since your actually using the same chip to re-do your HD your CPU is fine.

**Kunaak** · 02-10-2004, 08:57 PM

I killed 4 so far.
2 I have no idea what happend.

1 from running a 352 FSB.
not sure what happend there.

1 from running 3.7 volts into the ram.

the two mystery deaths AMD replaced despite what I said about overclocking and everything else.
the 352 FSB, they just laughed at me.
(probably)

the 3,7 death is now the most expensive desktop item I own

**Albigger** · 02-11-2004, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Kunaak
I killed 4 so far.
2 I have no idea what happend.

1 from running a 352 FSB.
not sure what happend there.

1 from running 3.7 volts into the ram.

the two mystery deaths AMD replaced despite what I said about overclocking and everything else.
the 352 FSB, they just laughed at me.
(probably)

the 3,7 death is now the most expensive desktop item I own

could you explain more on the "2 mystery deaths?" I mean, surely you weren't running completely stock and they just died, right??

sorry if i'm being a pain, just trying to get as much info as possible to be prepared when i get one.

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