X800Pro,, 16 pipelines

[IronYuppie]

Originally posted by Marquzz
Yes, already did it 3 times, as you can see on this picture it's nothing wrong with the mod itself







Using a Nikon 775 for those who wonder, Nikon has one of the best makros there is.

Is that that conductive paint people have been talking about? Looks like a putty of some sort. I just want to know what the best thing is to get.

[Luki1987]

Naser have you already tried modding the 2nd card? Would be nice to let us now your results. I think your theory really could be true... Looking forward to posting some of your benches (have you made any?).
Good luck!

[Naser]

Alright guys its fairly safe to conclude that if you have a card with a 3rd line code that has been successfully modded then it should work.

I just modded myGeCube GA8999.1 and heres what i got compared to my modded Sapphire.I also ran some quick benchmarks and games to see the diffrence with the extra pipeline.

Remmber both cards are running defualt driver setting & speed.


GeCube-GA8999.1 & 3dmark01-03





Sapphire-GB7293.1 & 3dmark01-03



FarCry
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1024x768 FPS: 71.06 (12) vs FPS:72.22 (16)
1280x1024 FPS: 67.23 (12) vs FPS:70.35 (16)

Doom3 Beta2
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1024x768 FPS: 50.4 (12) vs FPS:57.9 (16)
1280x1024 FPS: 34.7 (12) vs FPS:40.0 (16)

ColinMcRae-4
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1024x768 FPS: 72.36 (12) vs FPS:75.88 (16)


So it might be a good idea to start a thread with all the successful codes.

[Luki1987]

Great job! Finally there's some information about the flashability of the X800 Pro.
It would be really a good idea to start a thread with those codes...
Greetz

[BioBlade]

and again it is a 0416aa core that's finished....

almost al the card with a sucesful mod have that code...

[StormPC]

Originally posted by macci
Interesting info there Naser. Let us know how the CeCube card works

StormPC, sorry the post I made was a bit evil

BUT the default Nature scores I mentioned there were both ran on my everyday PC which has a normal P4C800-E + 3.0C NW CPU combo in it. So it shouldn't be the reason for the fairly high difference we have in the Nature fps.
ATI-Drivers/D3D settings prolly make a difference, etc but it could be a chipset/agp/driver -problem too. 70 vs. 87 is quite a difference considering that we are basically useing the same hardware (and default clocks).
If you get the Nature FPS tweaked to the optimal level it'll give quite a nice boost for the score too

Hey Macci, it's all in fun dude. But there you go again pretending not to know why they were so low.

You may very well be correct about the chipset/agp/driver problem, but between running standard CAT 4.5s and 2700MHz memory bandwidth on a single channel 754, that alone makes a huge difference. Since these cards are CPU limited to the max, and since P4s (even non-emergency editions) do really well on GT1 and GT4 this is also a consideration.

And seriously, from 520-530MHz on the core barely qualifies as an overclock.

It will take me a little time but with a pencil mod and some tweaking 30k on air on 2k1 should be possible.

Any thoughts on that?

Also, any thoughts on getting a 3700+ CG that keeps defaulting to 2T command rate to run 1T? This F1 BIOS sucks!!!

HEAR THAT GIGABYTE??? FIX THE BIOS ON THE K8NS PRO AND YOU WILL RULE THE A64 754 PIN UNIVERSE!!! CPU multis and a working 2T/1T option please!!!

GREAT JOB NASER!!!

[LilGator]

0416AA seems to be the winner, one 0411AA has been done, but that was an ES

We have a thread right here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...986#post465986

[Kane]

Hey everyone

My card has the number: GA9001.1 on it. This worked fine. Shows 16 pipelines now I have one problem. When I flash it with X800XT bios, and get in to windows, ATi Tool shows it at X800XT speeds, but Windows recognices it as a X800Pro. Is this just a problem I'm having, or do you all have it. Haven't benched it much yet, but after the mod I got a new record in 3dmark2003 at default X800XT speeds. 13000. The old one was at X800Pro@570/590 and was just over 12000

I like this mod To bad it only works on some cards

[LilGator]

Thats a normal problem

What is the line on the core below GA9001.1 ? Thx...

[blueremy]

Catalyst 4.6mod driver Installed
ATI WDM Rage Theater video driver installed.

[blueremy]

[LilGator]

Hmmm, guess it should show as XT, maybe there is something else needed, what driver are you using ?

[r3b0rN]

this makes me wanna save to get a moddable x800 pro.

[StormPC]

Probably a combination of the way he flashed the BIOS, the way he loaded the driver and the actual driver used.

[Brian]

From what I have read, it seems that cards that have 0416AA and GAXXX9.1 and GAXXX1.1 have worked. It seems that these to "steppings" seem to be the moddable card ATM. I went through and read each post in this thread and checked out most of the links and that is what I have concluded.

So basically, if you have a card with 0416AA and either GAXXX9.1 and GAXXX1.1 in the "stepping", then you have a chance at getting the extra pipes.

Just my view on this mod for the X800Pro.

[TyphooN]

yeah brian thats how i think too lol

[***Deimos***]

Sorry to be so sceptical once again, but why are Naser's score's improving by so little:

3DMark2003: 10 798 9987
282.9 274.7 GT1
77.4 69.1 GT2
64.6 58.2 GT3
73.1 69.4 GT4
2498 2353
6178 5003 Multi-Texture Fillrate
34.8 34.6
98.8 93.5 PixelShader2
49.1 43.6 Ragtroll

3DMark2001
23494 23229
313 314.8
97.4 98.7
439.6 434.1
228.8 229.1
281.9 282.4
128.4 127.8
203 190.3 Game 4 - Nature
2954 2733
7217 5506 Multi-texture fillrate
133.8 132.7
35.4 35.3
226 226
406.9 376.6 DOT3 Bump

It seems to me that this is more of an optimization for heavy texturing. Perhaps this hard-mod converts the card to something like FireGL. Or just makes multi-texturing more efficient by better caching. But it's odd to see PixelShader 2.0 (for example) have such small increase wheras the multi-texture score is so much higher. Perhaps those additional 4 pipelines don't have any PS, and are just texture units?? This would certainly explain how ATI got away with such a low transistor count. Performance would still be higher because of additional texture units but just not as much as if they were whole pipelines. Perhaps that's what they meant when they called them extreme pipelines...

any explanations/suggestions

I know most of the scores here shouldn't change.

[Blue078]

LostCircuits has moded a Asus x800 to XT
http://www.lostcircuits.com/video/asus_x800/

Looks liked he did the mod, then flashed the BIOS, then loaded the drivers.

Any way he has a nice compario of before and after....worth a read at least.

[neosho]

we need your help guys...

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...158#post472158

Sapphires X800PRO with vivo come with 1,6ns chips and NO laser cut.. flashing bios doesnt activate 16 pipes and painting bridge same :/

Greetings

[BioBlade]

here are my scores :

x800pro @ 12pipe(mod failure 4 times)

3dmark 2001se:

http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k1%20new.JPG

3dmark 2003 :

http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k3%20new.JPG

aquamark 3 :

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_vie...run=1017614161

is that good ?

[W1zzard]

anybody for who the hardmod is working - did your device id change? did it change without bios flash?

[TommyW]

Originally posted by BioBlade
here are my scores :

x800pro @ 12pipe(mod failure 4 times)

3dmark 2001se:

http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k1%20new.JPG

3dmark 2003 :

http://www.voidyourwarranty.nl/image.../2k3%20new.JPG

aquamark 3 :

http://arc.aquamark3.com/arc/arc_vie...run=1017614161

is that good ?

very good

i wish i get 22k